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AFTERNOON EVERYONE.IT IS NOW 4:08 PM ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, 2026, AND THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS NOW CALLED ORDER.
[2. Approval of Minutes: July 14, 2026 ]
OUR FIRST ITEM WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JULY 14TH, 2026 MEETING.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOVE APPROVAL? IT'S BEEN MOVED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE ARE ALL IN THE ROOM TODAY.
SO WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE FOR VOTING METHODS, WHICH WOULD BE THE VOTING MACHINES WHEN IT COMES UP.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE WITH TENANT FAVOR.
[3. Items of Interest ]
NEXT ITEM WILL BE ITEMS OF INTEREST.DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS OF INTEREST FOR TODAY? UH, NOT TODAY.
ANY BOARD MEMBERS? MR. MCGREGOR? THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UH, JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR PURPOSE OF THE RECORD THAT, UH, UH, DART HAS, UH, RECEIVED SOME NATIONAL ATTENTION FOR ITS, UH, RECENT, UH, SCORES.
IT NET PROMOTER SCORE OF 33.7 IS APPARENTLY THE HIGHEST SINCE 2019.
AND THE OVERALL CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SCORE 74.9, WHICH PUTS THIS ABOVE THE MEDIAN.
AND I, I IMAGINE THIS IS THE RESULT.
UH, THIS, THIS, BY THE WAY, SURVEY WAS DONE BEFORE FIFA.
UM, AND I IMAGINE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A NEW BUS FLEET, NEW BUS STATIONS IMPROVE SAFETY PLUS A LOT MORE, I THINK, UM, UH, CONSCIOUS EFFORT FROM STAFF, UH, OFFICERS, UH, AND STUFF TO, UH, TO, TO DUE TO THIS.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE STAFF AND TO DART FOR THAT.
JUST WANTED TO, UM, GIVE A HEADS UP AND REMIND EVERYONE.
APTAS ANNUAL MEETING IS COMING UP AT THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
IT'S GONNA BE AN EXPO YEAR, WHICH HAPPENS ONLY ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS.
SO, UM, THAT IS WHEN EVERYBODY BRINGS THE, THE COMPANIES BRING FULL SIZE, UH, BUSES AND RAIL CARS, AND IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY KICK, LITERALLY KICK THE TIRES.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. LOPEZ? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UH, I, I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR, OUR FRIENDS FROM RICHARDSON, INCLUDING MY GOOD FRIEND, UH, GARY SLAGEL ON THE SILVER LINE BRIDGE ARCH, UH, THAT IS GOING UP OVER 75.
I, I HAD THE PLEASURE AND HONOR OF, UH, SEEING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM THE HIGHWAY, BUT WHAT A STATEMENT THAT MAKES, UH, GARY, I, I AM JUST SO THRILLED THAT IT'S NOT JUST A BRIDGE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A MONUMENT.
IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, UH, DISPLAY OF WHAT THE ART OF THE POSSIBILITY CAN BE.
SO I AM JUST THRILLED TO DEATH TO, TO SEE THAT.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE ATTACKS ON THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I, I THINK IT ADDS SOME, SOME BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE TO SOME OF OUR CITIES.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED ANY CARDS.
[Consent Items]
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 10.IS THERE ANY MEMBERS WISHING TO PULL ANY ITEMS? MR. RICK ELLI.
I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM FIVE AND RECUSE MYSELF.
ITEM FIVE IS BEING PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ANYONE ELSE? I DO NEED TO ALSO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THAT.
UM, SO NUMBER FIVE IS BEING PULLED.
SO THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL CONSIST OF ITEM SIX THROUGH 10.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. WEST.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. BASS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ITEM SIX THROUGH 10.
SEEING NONE, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE.
I KNOW, AND THAT PASSES 10 TO ZERO.
[5. Approval of Contract for Enterprise Firewall Hardware and Licensing ]
UP ITEM FIVE, BUT I THINK, UM, MS. WON KRAUS HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON IT.DO YOU WANT A BRIEF? ANY AS WELL? WELL, LEMME, FIRST OF ALL, LEMME CLEAR THE ROOM FOR, OH, YEAH, THAT'S FINE FOR, FOR THEM TWO.
AND THEN, UM, DID YOU NEED A BRIEFING AS WELL, MS. CROS? UM, I JUST WANT, WE NEED TO TALK, UM, THREE BULLET POINTS, UM, ABOUT THIS, UH, CONTRACT AND THE TIMELINE FOR, AND THIS IS THE FIREWALL THAT'S FROM GETTING ACCESS TO MY, UM, OFFICE OF DESKTOP.
WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT THE, UH, HI, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.
FIRST, MY NAME IS JULIA SMITH, VICE PRESIDENT, CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.
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NOT THE ACTUAL, UH, HARDWARE ITSELF THAT IS PREVENTING YOU FROM, UH, ACCESS.IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, THE, UH, FIREWALL RULES AND PROCEDURES.
SO IF WE SEE ANY TYPE OF MALICIOUS OR POSSIBLE MALICIOUS ACTIVITY, UH, RELATED TO, UH, ANY PROCEDURES, THE FIREWALLS WILL, UH, ENACT AND PROTECT THE DART ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE DO HAVE, UH, MECHANISMS IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN, UH, EVALUATE AND QUICKLY ADJUST TO, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE.
BUT THIS CONTRACT ITSELF, IT IS, UH, APPROVED FOR FIREWALL HARDWARE AND LICENSING.
WE ARE REPLACING, UH, 19 ENTERPRISE FIREWALLS.
THESE ARE THE FIREWALLS THAT I PUT IN, UH, 10 YEARS AGO, 10 YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD, UH, AN INCIDENT.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY DOABLE, BUT NOW THEY, THEY REQUIRE REFRESH AND SUPPORT, UH, TO UPGRADE TO SOME MODERN FIREWALLS TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT DART THE LICENSING.
IT COVERS THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY.
OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY IS CONSISTS OF, UH, OUR ONBOARD SYSTEMS AND, AND SCADA AS WELL AS YOUR TRADITIONAL IT ENVIRONMENT.
AND ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES IN DART IT, IT PROTECTS THE, UH, EMPLOYEE ENVIRONMENT ALSO, UH, YOUR, UH, YOUR VPN TUNNELS AS SAY, IF YOU ARE LOGGING IN, USING, MULTIPLY THEIR AUTHENTICATION WHEN YOU ARE AT HOME ON THE DART NETWORK.
SO IT VERY, VERY ROBUST, UH, THESE FIREWALLS.
AND WE WILL, UH, IT COMES WITH 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS, UH, A WEEK SUPPORT, UH, FROM, UH, THE VENDOR BECAUSE IT IS WARRANTED, UH, FOR THE, THE LENGTH OF THE, UH, OF THE PURCHASE AND THE THREE YEAR ON THE LICENSES.
THAT WAS THE BEST PRICING OUT THERE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO, TO GET, UH, THE BEST PRICING AS WE DID OUR EVALUATION, UH, LOOKING OUT TO, TO GET, UH, NEW FIREWALLS.
SO IT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONTRACT IS, UH, $4.8 MILLION, UH, FOR THE, THE LENGTH OF THE, UH, REPLACING THE, THE HARDWARE AS WELL AS THE LICENSES.
WELL, I, WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE ROBUST SECURITY THAT IT PROVIDES, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT IS USER FRIENDLY.
SO I WILL BE TALKING WITH YOU AND ARRANGING AN APPOINTMENT WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE FIREWALL.
I, I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO HAVING YOU OUT.
ANYONE ELSE ON THE ITEM? SEEING NONE, COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? NO, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. SLAGEL.
RE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE ON YOUR MACHINE.
I REALLY WANNA SAY THAT WITH NINE IN FAVOR.
WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT REQUIRED AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO INDIVIDUAL
[12. Approval to Distribute Proposed Fiscal Year 2027 Annual Budget and 20-Year Financial Plan to Service Area Cities for Review (Presenters: Gary Slagel/Jamie Adelman) ]
ITEMS. THE FIRST IS THE APPROVAL TO DISTRIBUTE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET AND 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN TO SERVICE AREA CITIES FOR REVIEW.UH, SENTINEL DVO, A VP FINANCIAL PLANNING AND ANALYSIS.
AND BEFORE I BEGIN, UH, CHELSEA HAS ALREADY PROVIDED UPDATES, UH, TO YOUR BUDGET BINDER, UH, THAT REFLECT THE CHANGES, UH, FROM THE BOARD WORKSHOP, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED INTO THE BUDGET.
UH, SO THOSE CHANGES INCLUDE, UH, THE GO PASS TEAM, UH, REPORTING TO THE OFFICE OF THE CEO THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTING TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE CHANGES, UH, THE 25 MILLION BILL GRANT.
UH, SO THAT IS REPLACING DEBT IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN.
THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN, IN THE CHANGES AND ALSO THE ALLOCATION OF EXPECTED SAVINGS, UH, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED IN THE UNIDENTIFIED EFFICIENCIES ACCOUNT.
UM, THAT HAS SINCE BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE APPROPRIATE, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND ACCOUNTS.
UH, SO THIS VERSION OF THE, OF THE BUDGET AND FINANCIAL PLAN WILL GO OUT TO THE SERVICE AREA CITIES.
SO TODAY'S CONSIDERATION, UH, STAFF IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO DISTRIBUTE THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET AND 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN TO THE GOVERNING BODIES OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE DART SERVICE AREA FOR THEIR REVIEW.
HERE IS A QUICK VIEW OF THE FINANCIAL PLANNING CALENDAR.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A, A ROADMAP OF OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, THAT YOU'VE SEEN, UH, PREVIOUSLY ALL THE WAY BACK THROUGH APRIL DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS PRESENTATIONS CURRENTLY WHERE WE ARE NOW, UH, SEEKING APPROVAL TO DISTRIBUTE THE FR 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET AND 20TH FINANCIAL PLAN TO THE SERVICE AREA CITIES.
AUGUST 25TH, WE'LL BE CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION OF THE FR 2027 ANNUAL
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BUDGET AND FINANCIAL PLAN.AUGUST 27TH, WE'LL BE BRIEFING THE SERVICE AREA, CITY MANAGERS AND FINANCE DIRECTORS ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCIAL PLAN.
AND IN SEPTEMBER, WE'LL BE SEEKING THE BOARD AND COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CONSIDERATION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND FINANCIAL PLAN.
THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENT SECTION 4 0 5 2 1 1 3, UH, STATES THAT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE SHALL MAKE THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET AVAILABLE TO THE GOVERNING BODIES OF EACH MUNICIPALITY AND THE AUTHORITY AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE ADOPTION OF THE FINAL ANNUAL BUDGET.
UH, THE BOARD OF THE BOARD VOTE ON THE FY 2027 BUDGET IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND.
UH, SO 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT IS SUNDAY, AUGUST 23RD.
TODAY, AUGUST 11TH IS THE LAST SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING BEFORE THE DEADLINE, WHICH WHILE WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY REQUESTING TO DISTRIBUTE THE BUDGET AND FINANCIAL PLAN TO THE SERVICE AREA CITIES.
HERE IS A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET.
THAT INCLUDES THE THREE APPROPRIATIONS THAT THE BOARD APPROVES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THAT INCLUDES THE OPERATING BUDGET OF 7 9 7 0.7 MILLION, UH, THE CAPITAL AND NON-OPERATING, UH, BUDGET OF 8 1 7 0.5 MILLION.
UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE FUNDING FOR THE SIX YEAR GMP, UH, THE DEBT SERVICE OF 2 2 7 0.4 MILLION FOR A TOTAL, UH, ANNUAL BUDGET OF 1.8 BILLION, WHICH IS A 1.7% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.
THE FINANCIAL PLAN IS STRUCTURALLY BALANCED, MEANING THAT THE SOURCES INCLUDED ARE ENOUGH TO OFFSET THE USES IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN.
UH, ALSO, UH, THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCIAL PLAN COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE BOARD APPROVED FINANCIAL STANDARDS.
SO NEXT STEPS, UH, STAFF, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO ANSWER AND RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AND ALSO MEET WITH BOARD MEMBERS AS REQUESTED.
AUGUST 27TH, WE WILL HAVE THE BRIEFING FOR THE SERVICE AREA, CITY MANAGERS AND FINANCE DIRECTORS SEPTEMBER 8TH.
WE LOOK FOR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, SEPTEMBER 22ND, UH, THE BOARD CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCIAL PLAN.
SO STAFF IS SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO DISTRIBUTE THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET AND 20TH FINANCIAL PLAN TO THE GOVERNING BODIES OF THE MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE DART SERVICE AREA FOR THEIR REVIEW.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.
UM, THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT THEIR INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE ANY, UH, AND FLOW THOSE TO, UH, TO HER ATTENTION, JAMIE A AND HER TEAM.
UH, WE WILL DISTRIBUTE ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS RECEIVED EACH WEEK ON THE FRIDAY OF EACH WEEK.
SO WE'LL HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THEN ALL THE RESPONSES, UH, ON EVERY FRIDAY.
UH, THE OTHER COMMENT, UH, ON THIS IS THAT, AGAIN, THE NEXT SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD ON, UH, THE BOARD, UH, UH, BUDGET AS PRESENTED IS, UH, THIS NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE 25TH, AND WHICH AT, AT THAT TIME YOU WOULD BE REALLY GETTING INTO THE FINAL DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OF ANY ADJUSTMENTS, UH, OR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU FEEL ARE UNANSWERED.
SO AT THIS JUNCTURE, THIS IS, UH, THE BUDGET AS, UH, AS PRESENTED TO YOU, UH, UH, BY ME, UH, UH, ON, ON BEHALF OF THE AGENCY, WHICH WILL GO OUT TO THE CITIES.
YOU ARE NOT TAKING ANY FORMAL POSITION WHATSOEVER AS A BOARD MEMBER ON THIS.
UH, THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING ITS RELEASE FOR REVIEWING COMMENT BY THE CITIES, AND THEN THEY'LL BRING THEIR INFORMATION BACK TO US.
AND AS, UH, SENATOR NEW INDICATED, WE'LL BE, UH, BRIEFING THE CITY MANAGERS, I BELIEVE IN THE 23RD.
SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE TWO THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION.
ANY, UH, BOARD MEMBERS WITH ANY QUESTIONS? MS. SWAN KRAUS? THREE MINUTES.
UM, CAN YOU DIRECT ME TO WHAT PART OF THE BUDGET DEALS WITH THAT BUILD AMERICA GRANT REPLACEMENT OF DEBT OR OF DEBT NUMBERS? SO THAT SHOULD BE IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN SECTION.
UH, WHAT LINE, IS THERE A SPECIFIC, UH, LINE OR PAGE NUMBER I SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IF YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? UH, THE PAGE NUMBER? I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, BUT THE BUILDUP, THE BILL GRANT WOULD BE IN THE, IN THE GRANT SECTION.
UM, SO THE, THE GRANT SECTION? CORRECT.
OKAY, MR. ELLI, THREE MINUTES.
UH, A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN, UH, AND THEN A, A FEW MOTIONS, UH, FOR MODIFICATION.
BUT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I NOTED, UH, THAT THE OVERALL TOTAL
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BUDGET IS DOWN 2.2% YEAR OVER YEAR, WHICH I, I THINK IS A POSITIVE MOVE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS OF THE LOWER LEVEL OF EXPENDITURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY INDICATES INCREASING EFFICIENCY, WHICH I APPRECIATE.I WAS CURIOUS, ARE THE GMP PAYMENTS TO THE MEMBER CITIES COUNTED IN THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT GOES DOWN 2.2%? OR IS THAT OUTSIDE OF IT? IT'S INCLUDED IN OKAY.
YOU'LL SEE IT IN, UH, ON THE 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, ON, UH, LINE ITEM 20, UH, FOUR GENERAL MOBILITY PLAN.
YOU'LL SEE IT'S CONTAINED THERE.
I'M STILL, STILL, UH, STUDYING THIS.
I'VE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT TIME WITH IT, BUT DEFINITELY STILL STUDYING IT.
SO, UM, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THEN, DART IS SPENDING 2.2% LESS MONEY THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR EVEN INCLUDING THE MONEY BEING PAID TO MEMBER CITIES? YES.
I, I, I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE THING, SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, THEN ALSO, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS REALLY THAT, THAT TAKES CARE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, PROBABLY A, AN, A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF LATER.
BUT, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
UH, THE FIRST IS THAT, AS I MENTIONED AT THE MEETING ON JULY 31ST, UH, WE GET QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, UH, FOLKS IN THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS SAYING 60% OF THOSE ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
YOU KNOW, REALLY THAT'S THE CALL CENTER.
I THINK IT WOULD JUST SEND A CLEARER MESSAGE FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO BE ITS OWN DEPARTMENT.
SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BREAK OUT CUSTOMER SERVICE INTO ITS OWN DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THIS BUDGET.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A MAIN MOTION ON THE FLOOR YET.
SO, UM, IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WE NORMALLY DO THE OPPOSITE WHERE WE JUST ASK QUESTIONS FIRST AND THEN DO MOTIONS.
SO LET'S LET, MAKE SURE I CLEAR ALL THE QUESTIONS OUT FOR SURE.
FROM BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO A MOTION AND I'LL ASK FOR AT LEAST A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS.
AND THEN I'LL TAKE YOUR SOUNDS GREAT.
ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
SO LEMME GET A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE AMENDMENT SECOND.
I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL TO MOVE THIS, UH, UH, UH, BUDGET AND OUR FINANCIAL PLAN FORWARD, RELEASE IT TO THE CITIES.
THIS HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. SLAGEL, SECOND BY MR. ENOCH.
AND THEN MR. RICKARD WILL TAKE YOU UP YOUR ISSUE NOW.
I'LL HAVE A, A FEW AMENDMENTS.
THE FIRST IS THE, UH, I MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND THIS TO BREAK OUT CUSTOMER SERVICE INTO ITS OWN DEPARTMENT.
UM, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? UM, LET ME, LET ME ASK, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, WE HAVE IT AS A COST CENTER.
COULD YOU POINT US TO WHERE IT IS IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW? THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PIECE? YES.
UH, SO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE MARKETING IN THE MARKET SECTION? YEAH, IT'S IN MARKETING.
AND MOVE IT TO WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO MOVE IT TO? MR. ELLI? CAN WE HIT A PAGE? YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A A PAGE NUMBER FOR THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOMETHING LIKE 78 EMPLOYEES IN THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT, AND THERE'S A NOTE THAT 60% OF THEM ARE, ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
YOU'RE, I BELIEVE YOU, IF TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO BREAK OUT THE CALL CENTER, UH, AS A DIFFERENT, UH, ACCOUNTING UNIT.
UH, AND YES, WE, WE ACTUALLY DON'T, WE HAVE IT BROKEN OUT AS A COST CENTER.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE COST CENTERS IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
UH, I DON'T, IT WOULD BE ATYPICAL TO BREAK OUT COST CENTERS AS DEPARTMENTS.
UH, SO I, ON ON BALANCE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US PROVIDE AN EXHIBIT WITH THE COST CENTER INFORMATION FOR THE CALL CENTER, WE'D BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO IN THAT DIRECTION.
IT WOULD BE, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO ACTUALLY SPIN IT OUT AS A DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, I, I, I GUESS I COULD MAKE THAT MOTION SUBSEQUENTLY.
I'LL, I, I GUESS I'LL DISCUSS IT WITH STAFF FURTHER, BUT I, I STILL PERSONALLY THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT 78 MARKETING EMPLOYEES, AND, YOU KNOW, IF MOST OF THOSE ARE REALLY DOING A CALL CENTER FUNCTION THAT'S MORE CUSTOMER SERVICE THAN MARKETING.
AND I, I THINK IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, TELL A MORE ACCURATE STORY TO, TO BREAK IT OUT THAT WAY.
BUT, UM, IF, IF I MAY, UM, THIS IS MORE OF A KIND OF A PROCEDURAL VOTE.
WE STILL HAVE YOUR CITIES, ALL CITIES THAT NEED TO WEIGH IN ON IT, WHICH MAY CREATE EVEN ADDITIONAL MOTIONS AND, AND MODIFICATIONS.
WE STILL HAVE SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH AS, AS THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WE STILL HAVE SEPTEMBER THE 25TH, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HAVE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND A BOARD MEETING, UM, YOUR MICROPHONE'S
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ON.SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SWAYS OR DISSUADES YOU FROM MAKING, WANTING TO MAKE ANY MOTIONS.
YOU'RE A DULY ELECTED BOARD MEMBER.
UM, BUT I, I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY MAKE SURE EVEN MORE ALONG THE WAY BASED UPON WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WELL, AND, AND THE, AND THE MEETINGS YOU HAVING WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW? A A ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND I COULD DO THAT, BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN THEN SUPPOSE THESE PASSING AND WE TELL THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE BUDGET AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I, I GUESS I WOULD DEFER TO, UH, CEO LINEER, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I MAKE THESE MOTIONS SEPTEMBER 8TH.
IF, IF THEY WERE TO PASS, IS IT FEASIBLE TO COME BACK WITH EVERYTHING IMPLEMENTED BY SEPTEMBER 22ND? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, RECALL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION THIS ON THE 25TH, YOUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, NOT THE EIGHTH.
AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THE, ON THE EIGHTH.
AND THEN THE, UH, FINAL TIME THAT YOU CAN MEET AND DISCUSS THIS, I BELIEVE IS 22ND, 22ND OF SEPTEMBER.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE THREE BOARD MEETINGS, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, A VARIETY OF THINGS YOU'D LIKE.
UH, I'M ANTICIPATING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION INITIALLY ON THE 25TH OF THIS MONTH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.
UM, YEAH, IF, IF THAT'S, IF, IF THAT WORKS BETTER FOR STAFF.
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO, I, I DON'T WANT TO UPSET THE APPLE CART TODAY IF THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME FOR THESE MOTIONS.
I JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.
THIS BOOK IS EXACTLY TO DO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
BUT WE GOTTA GET THE BOOK OUT AND, AND RECEIVE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACKS ON IT.
UM, SO THE MOTION'S NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF ORDER OR, OR ANYTHING, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A STARTING POINT AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE, I WANNA BE FAIR TO THE STAFF OF HAVING A STARTING POINT THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THE ENDING POINT.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WANNA DISCUSS AND, AND POSSIBLY CHANGE AS WELL.
I'M NOT BRINGING ANY OF THOSE FORWARD MYSELF TODAY.
UM, AND, AND AS THE CEO JUST STATED, AND HE'LL BE OUR CEO THE ENTIRE TIME, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT WON'T CHANGE, RIGHT.
AND WE CAN SAY, WELL, THERE WAS THE OTHER GUY MADE THAT PROMISE MM-HMM
UM, THERE'LL BE AT LEAST THREE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE.
WELL, I, I'LL TELL YOU, I'VE GOT CONFIDENCE IN, IN CHAIR BRYANT AND INTERIM CEO LINE ANDER.
SO, UH, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION THAT MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE OPTIMAL TIME FOR THESE MOTIONS, BUT THERE WILL BE, UH, A GOOD TIME TO MAKE THESE MOTIONS.
AT LEAST THREE MORE, AT LEAST THREE MORE.
I, I WILL WITHDRAW THIS FOR NOW.
SO THERE'S MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS.
ANY OTHER CONVERSATION? WELL, YEAH, I GUESS YOU HAVE A COMMENT.
UH, I'LL TRY TO TAKE TWO MINUTES, 60 SECONDS.
UM, SO I THINK TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TIME, I WILL ALSO WAIT ON COMMENTING ON ANTHONY ELLIS.
MY CONCERN IS IF THE ONLY PROBLEM IS IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, WE CAN JUST CLARIFY IN MEMO FORM, UM, HOW WE DIVIDE THAT UP.
MY CONCERN IS ADDING ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAU BUREAUCRACY AND ADMINISTRATIVE AND COST TO THAT BY SEPARATING IT OUT.
SO I'M, I WANNA MAKE, UH, SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST FOR BREAKING IT OUT AS WELL.
YOU'RE TOING A FINE LINE OF GOING INTO A CONVERSATION.
IT WAS NOT ON THE FLOOR, IT WAS 60 SECONDS, SECONDS.
MR. ENRIQUE ON THE MAIN MOTION TO APPROVE.
NO, IT WAS, IT WAS A, I'LL PICK IT UP WHEN WE COME BACK TO THAT.
I WAS GONNA ASK FOR PERMISSION.
COMMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON THE MAIN MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS NOT WHAT POTENTIALLY WAS ONCE THERE.
I, I, I HAVE A TEN SECOND COMMENT IF I, IF I MAY.
IT'LL BE A LOT LESS THAN THAT.
I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'M GONNA VOTE YES ON DISTRIBUTING THE BUDGET TO THE CITIES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD VOTE YES IF WE WERE VOTING ON APPROVING THIS AS IS TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE NOT.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE VOTE.
I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EARLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT I'LL, I'LL VOTE YES ON DISTRIBUTING TO THE CITIES.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, UH, THE MOTION'S BEEN MOVED.
AND SECOND, WE'LL TAKE OUR VOTES ON THE MACHINES WITH 12 IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSITION.
[13. Approval of Fiscal Year 2027 Goals and Performance Measures for Board Administrator (Presenters: Gary Slagel/Jesse Salazar) ]
OUR NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 2027 GOALS AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR BOARD ADMINISTRATOR[00:25:07]
MR. SALAZAR.GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN DARTBOARD, JESSE SALAZAR, DARTBOARD ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, TODAY I'LL BRIEFLY WALK, WALK YOU THROUGH THE 2027 GOALS AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR, UH, FOR ME.
UH, THE GOALS ARE DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THE BOARD, STRENGTHEN BOARD OPERATIONS, UH, ALIGN THE OFFICE BOARD SUPPORT WITH THE BROADER STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
UH, EACH GOAL IS ALIGNED WITH THOSE PRIORITIES AND HAS A MEASURABLE OUTPUT.
UH, MY FIRST GOAL, AND THIS IS A BIG ONE, IS TO, UH, IS THE VOTING SYSTEM MODERNIZATION.
SO, UH, IT'S, UH, MORE THAN JUST REPLACING EQUIPMENT, IT'S A WHOLE SOLUTION.
UH, I THINK YOU'LL BE IMPRESSED ONCE YOU SEE IT AND GET TRAINED ON IT.
UH, THE PROJECT WILL BE APPROACHED IN SEVERAL PHASES.
UH, IT'S RATHER SIMPLY JUST REPLACING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING PHASE WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE PROJECT SCOPE, CONFIRMED THE REQUIREMENTS, OBTAINED THE NECESSARY STAKEHOLDER APPROVALS, UH, AND THEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH PROCUREMENT.
I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN PROCURED AND NOW THE HARD WORK STARTS, UH, THE, AS WE START SCHEDULING THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE INTEGRATION OF THE NEW VOTING SYSTEM AND THE AUDIO VISUAL COMPONENTS.
ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, WE'LL CONDUCT SYSTEM AND FUNCTION TESTING, USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING, AND STAFF AND BOARD TRAINING.
UH, THEN ONCE ALL OF THAT IS COMPLETE, WE'LL MOVE INTO FULL OPERATION.
UM, THE SYSTEM WILL THEN, UH, BE IN PLACE AND WE WILL DEVELOP STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROCESSES.
THE ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE IS A RELIABLE, SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM THAT SUPPORTS BOARD MEETINGS AND REDUCES OPERATIONAL DISRUPTIONS.
UH, GOAL NUMBER TWO IS THE DAIS MODERNIZATION, UH, FOR FUTURE GOVERNANCE.
SO, UH, GOVERNANCE CHANGES OVER TIME AND THE SYSTEM WILL NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THESE CHANGES WITHOUT REQUIRING MAJOR, UH, RECONSTRUCTIVE RECONSTRUCTIONS EACH TIME.
UH, THE FIRST STEP IS TO FINALIZE OUR PROJECT SCOPE, MEET WITH STAKEHOLDERS, AND IDENTIFY THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS NEEDED.
UH, WE WILL DEVELOP AND APPROVE THE CONFIGURATION THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE FUTURE BOARD COMPOSITION, AS WELL AS GOVERNANCE MODIFICATIONS.
THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES FABRICATION AND INSTALLATION OF THE REALIGNED DAIS, ALONG WITH THE INTEGRATION OF THE AUDIO, VISUAL MICROPHONE, AND ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEM.
INSTALLATION WILL BE PHASED SO WE, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, SO WE DO NOT INTERRUPT BOARD MEETINGS.
AND, UH, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO MAKE THIS BOARDROOM ACCEPTABLE, ACCESSIBLE, AND FUNCTIONAL FOR FUTURE GOVERNANCE NEEDS.
ALONG WITH THAT, UH, MY THIRD GOAL IS TO, UH, REPLACE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS LAPTOPS, UH, WELL MOST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS LAPTOPS, UH, TO ENSURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE, THE PORTAL, OR EXCUSE ME, FOR THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING.
UH, THIS WILL EMPHASIZE MAKING THE TRANSITION AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE WHILE MAINTAINING THE IT SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED.
OH, UM, FOURTH GOAL, UH, AGAIN, IS A CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING I HOLD VERY DEAR MY HEART.
AND THAT IS THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF BOARD SUPPORT.
UH, STRONG BOARD SUPPORT OPERATION DEPENDS ON HAVING STAFF THAT IS KNOWLEDGEABLE AND THE SKILLS NECESSARY TO PERFORM THE, THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES EFFECTIVELY.
STAFF WILL PARTICIPATE IN PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES PROVIDED THROUGH APTA WEBINARS AND CONFERENCES, DART ONLINE COURSES, UH, INDUSTRY ORGANIZATIONS, AND OTHER RELEVANT TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.
WE WILL ALSO DEVELOP INDIVIDUAL EDUCATIONAL PLANS FOR STAFF AND CROSS TRAINING TO ENSURE THE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS TO REDUCE THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING CRITICAL RESPONSIBILITIES DEPENDENT ON JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL.
UH, THE GOAL IS TO MAKE A STRONGER, MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND MORE RESILIENT BOARD SUPPORT TEAM.
FIFTH GOAL IS TO, AGAIN, TO HAVE ANOTHER, UH, AT LEAST ONE, UH, UH, WORKSHOP OR RETREAT.
UH, THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP AWAY FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ENVIRONMENT, FOCUS ON STRATEGIC ISSUES, GOVERNANCE, BOARD DEVELOPMENT, AND TEAM BUILDING.
MY ROLE IS TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR TO COORDINATE THE LOGISTICS, INCLUDING AGENDAS,
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LOCATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, AND OTHER ARRANGEMENTS.UH, BECAUSE BOARD WORKSHOPS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WE ALSO HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE AGENDAS, ACCESS MATERIALS ARE PREPARED AND DISTRIBUTED, ENSURING THAT ALL ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS ARE MET.
AND MY SIXTH GOAL IS, UH, AGAIN, UH, A CONTINUATION OF OF BOARD COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, I KNOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE AREAS OF TRAVEL OFFSITE AND LOCAL, UH, EVENTS AS WELL AS BOARD REQUEST, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY ANY OTHER TOPIC THAT YOU WANT TO BE COMMUNICATED A LITTLE BETTER.
SO OBJECTIVE IS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE HOW INFORMATION IS COMMUNICATED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND HOW, UH, INFORMATION IS TRACKED AND DISTRIBUTED.
I IMPROVE THESE PROCESSES TO PROVIDE BOARD MEMBERS WITH A CLEAR INFORMATION, REDUCE CONFUSION, AND CREATE GREATER CONSISTENCY OF BOARD SUPPORT.
SO IN SUMMARY, THESE GOALS ARE INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE THREE GOALS OR THREE THINGS.
AND THAT'S, UH, MODERNIZE THE TOOLS AND ENVIRONMENT TO SUPPORT THE BOARD, STRENGTHEN THE BOARD SUPPORT TEAM AND ITS PROCESSES, AND IMPROVE THE OVERALL BOARD EXPERIENCE AND SUPPORT EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL INITIATIVES WITH MULTI-STEP PROJECTS.
SO SUCCESS, SUCCESS WILL NOT BE MEASURED BY ONLY ONE COMPLETION, BUT BY THE EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION STAKEHOLDER, COORDINATION, TRAINING, AND SUSTAINABILITY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD AND DART STAFF AS WELL TO IMPLEMENT ALL THESE GOALS.
I KNOW THEY'RE PRETTY LOFTY, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST THREE.
AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? MS. RON KRAUS? THREE MINUTES.
UM, APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR CLEAR, UM, DIAGRAM HERE ON YOUR GOALS AND METRICS FOR ME, NUMBER SIX IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
TO ME, BOARD COMMUNICATION IS CRITICAL.
UM, AND IT'S VERY LIGHT ON METRICS COMPARED TO THE OTHER GOALS.
UM, I THINK A MORE ROBUST DESCRIPTION AS YOU HAVE FOR THE OTHER GOALS IS WARRANTED.
UM, I ALSO THINK, UM, A GOOD LONG RUNWAY FOR, UM, ONBOARDING NEW BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH WILL BE COMING DOWN THE ROAD AND WILL BE HERE FAIRLY SOON.
I THINK YOU NEED A GOOD LONG RUNWAY TO FIGURE OUT, UM, THE PROCESSES AND, AND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO UPDATE AND REVISE THE, UM, UH, ONBOARDING OF THIS.
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UH, NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
SO I THINK YOU SHOULD PUT THAT ON THERE AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK, UM, UH, MORE ROBUST METRICS IS GOING TO BE NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE YOU AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE YOU ON SO THAT IT IS, UM, CLEAR AND MM-HMM
WE UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYONE'S GOING.
ANYONE ELSE? YOU CAN PUT ME ON FOR, FOR THREE.
UM, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO, UM, NUMBER ONE, COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH APTA AND THE TBAS.
I THINK YOU'VE BEEN AT EVERY TBA CONFERENCE.
FAR SINCE JOINING, UM, WHERE I KNOW YOU'VE KIND OF BEEN PICKING UP A LOT OF THE THINGS TO GET YOU KIND OF TRANSITIONED OVER FROM THE CITY ROLES TO, TO, TO DART.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST, 'CAUSE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM FOR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TODAY, AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO THE BOARD AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO I'D SUGGEST, UH, GETTING WITH, WITH, UH, MS. JUAN KRAUS AND, UM, AND WE CAN APPROVE IT AS IS TONIGHT, BUT WORKING ON NUMBER SIX, UM, FOR GOAL NUMBER ONE ON THIS NEW, UM, UM, VOTING STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, VOTING SYSTEM WILL, THE VOTING SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UM, AND I KNOW YOUR GOAL TOO IS ABOUT THE, THE DAYS ITSELF.
WILL IT ALLOW FOR THIS FRACTIONAL VOTING THAT WE'RE THIS PERCENTAGE BASED VOTING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING AS WELL? YES, SIR.
WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS POSSIBLE.
IT'S FOR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ONLY IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? APPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. UH, BASS.
I HAD CARMEN FLAG ME AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, SO MOVE AND SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE WITH 13 IN FAVOR.
[14. Approval of Fiscal Year 2027 Goals and Performance Measures for General Counsel (Presenters: Gary Slagel/Gene Gamez)]
UP APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 2027 GOALS AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR GENERAL COUNSEL.UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, BOARD AND, UH, CHAIR JEAN GOMEZ, GENERAL COUNSEL.
WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE, UH, THE PROPOSED GENERAL
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COUNSEL GOALS FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2027.APOLOGIZE FOR THE SMALL PRINT, BUT I ALSO, UM, SENT THIS TO, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS AND IT'S ON THE PORTAL ALSO.
UH, THE ONE IN, IN, UH, THAT ARE NOT IN RED LINE INDICATES AN ONGOING, UM, AN ONGOING, UH, UM, GOAL THAT HAS BEEN, UM, UM, VERBALIZED BY, BY VARIOUS BOARD MEMBERS.
AND THAT IS, UH, UH, CONTINUE TO, TO LOOK FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
UH, WE'RE VERY LIMITED IN THAT AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SIZED, MEDIUM SIZED LAW FIRM.
SO NOT A LOT OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL WORK ON THE SECOND, UH, GOAL UNDER NUMBER ONE.
UH, WORK WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND ACCOUNTING FIRM TO FINALIZE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS WITH THE WITHDRAWN CITY.
IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE'LL BE BRINGING AN ITEM, UH, FOR APPROVAL IN THAT AREA, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UH, UH, THAT FINANCIAL OBLIGATION DETERMINATION, UH, THAT THE BOARD WILL, UH, WILL DISCUSS AND APPROVE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, REVIEW PROCUREMENT CONTRACTS OVER 5 MILLION.
THAT HAS BEEN WORKING PRETTY SUFFICIENTLY.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND SOME THINGS.
UH, ONE OF THE MAIN ONES IS THAT OUR, MAKE SURE THAT OUR ENTITIES THAT DO BUSINESS WITH DAR ARE REGISTERED WITH THE, UH, TEXAS SECRETARY OF THE STATE.
IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL, UH, REVIEW PROCUREMENT OF GOODS AND SERVICES THROUGH CORPORATE AGREEMENTS TO ASSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE DART PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS.
UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, DIR CONTRACTS COMING TO THE BOARD.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS DIR CONTRACTS ARE ALREADY VETTED THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE, UM, STATE OF TEXAS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UH, THEY'RE RECONCILED WITH ANY, ANY ITEMS IN THE, UH, UH, PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT.
WE JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS KNOWN SO THAT A BUSINESS DECISION IS MADE ON, UH, ALSO ON NUMBER ONE, I I'VE HEARD IT, UH, MANY TIMES, COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, SO TO RESPOND TO BOARD REQUESTS OR QUESTIONS WITHIN ONE TO THREE BUSINESS STATES, IF NOT SOONER.
UH, IF, UH, I DO MAKE IT A HABIT ADVANCING THAT, THAT PHONE, EVERY TIME YOU CALL IT, UH, EVERY TIME THAT IT RINGS IT DO ANSWER THAT PHONE UNDER STRATEGIC GOAL.
NUMBER TWO, NOT A LOT OF CHANGE THERE.
A LOT OF THESE HAVE TO DO WITH TRAINING.
UH, SOME OF THESE WE GOT A LITTLE BEHIND ON, UM, UH, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT WE FACED EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
A LOT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL BOARD MEETINGS FOR OUR, UM, AUDITOR AND CEO.
BUT THOSE ARE ON TRACK AND THOSE MAY CHANGE AS I THINK I GOT ANOTHER MONTH, ANOTHER MONTH TO, UM, UH, TO DO SOME OF THESE.
BUT SOME OF THESE ARE IN PROCESS AND, UM, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL SEE IF, UH, UM, SOME OF THOSE COME OFF ON THE LAST ONE ON NUMBER TWO, AS ALWAYS, PROVIDE AN UPDATE, A LEGAL UPDATE FOR, UM, DAR POLICE OFFICERS ON STATE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES IN ANY FEDERAL CASE LAW.
UH, NUMBER THREE IS, UH, CONTINUE TO REVIEW A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE LONG-TERM LEASES AND RELATED AGREEMENTS WITH, UH, UH, ON QOD PROJECTS WITH SERVICE AREA CITIES.
I HAVE TALKED TO TREY AND KAYLYN ABOUT THIS AND, AND, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE ON REVIEWING THOSE, UH, UH, THOSE ILAS OR LEASES THAT WE HAVE UNDER NUMBER FOUR.
UH, THE TWO SECTIONS THERE HAVE TO DO WITH OUR STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL AFFILIATION AND INTEREST.
SFAI FORM VERY SIMILAR TO THE DISCLOSURE FORM THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO FILL OUT.
UH, SO THIS IS A COMPLIANCE ISSUE THAT, UH, I'VE ALSO, I'VE OFTEN SEEN THAT, UM, UM, TRI-ANNUAL AUDITS LOOK AT, MAKE SURE THOSE ARE GETTING DONE.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO CARRY THOSE FORWARD.
THAT INCLUDES A REVIEW AND ALSO TRAINING FOR ANY, UH, ANY, UH, NEW STAFF THAT COME ALONG ON NUMBER FOUR.
UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD HAS COMPLETED THEIR DISCLOSURE FORMS AND ANY NEW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THE, UH, TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, UM, TRAINING.
AND ALSO, UH, PROVIDE ORIENTATION FOR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
DO GET A, A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO MEET WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UH, THIS IS A NEW ONE THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE GENERAL COUNCIL FORUM, THAT IF YOUR ENTITY DOESN'T HAVE THIS, IT'D BE GOOD.
I'LL LET MS. SPARK KNOWS WHEN SHE GETS HERE NEXT WEEK IN COORDINATION WITH THE CHIEF AUDIT OFFICER, REVIEW CREDIT CARD EXPENDITURES, RECONCILE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS AND PROCUREMENT TRANSACTIONS FOR ALL DEPARTING EVPS AND ABOVE.
IT'S, IT IS JUST A GOOD PRACTICE TO HAVE IT, IT, UH, THAT INCLUDES MY DEPARTMENT AND I WOULD BE IN COORDINATION WITH THE CHIEF AUDIT OFFICER UNDER GOAL NUMBER FIVE, SEAMLESS MOBILITY.
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CONTINUE TO MONITOR GO PASS.AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO BUSINESS OF GO PASS, THAT'S A, A NATIONALLY, UH, BRAND.
UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'LL ALSO DISCUSS WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN YOU GO OUTSIDE THE SPHERE OF TEXAS AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO, UH, UH, TO OUR D IMMUNITIES.
UH, NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW EASEMENTS OR ACCESS AGREEMENTS WITH ENTITIES WHO ARE UTILIZING OR SEEKING TO UTILIZE D RIGHT OF WAY QUARTER FOR PASSENGER RAIL SERVICES.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE ASSETS THAT WE OWN IN THE, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP UP TO DATE ON THOSE.
AND, UH, UM, UH, REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS ON.
NUMBER SIX, STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS, UH, PRESENT AT A TRANSIT ORIENTED ASSOCIATION ORGANIZATION, EITHER AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR PANEL PRESENTER.
AND THEN I WORK WITH SERVICE AREA, CITIES AND LEGISLATIVE TEAM TO, UH, UH, TO AMEND ARTS GOVERNING STRUCTURE UNDER 4 52.
AND FINALLY THE LAST ONE, IT'S, UH, THIS ONE HASN'T CHANGED.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT OUR SERVICE AREA, CITIES, UH, MY PEERS ARE THE CITY ATTORNEYS, THAT THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE WITH THEM REGULARLY AND OFTEN.
AND NOT ONLY WITH THEM, I DON'T HAVE IT ON HERE, BUT ALSO WITH THE, WITH THE TRANSIT GENERAL COUNSEL THAT WE'RE, THAT ARE NOT ONLY IN THE STATE, BUT NATIONALLY.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, FLUSH OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ALSO, UM, UH, MEET OR DISCUSS ANY ONE OF THESE, UH, CHAIR.
ANY QUESTIONS, MR. MCGREGOR? THREE MINUTES.
UH, JEAN, I, I KNOW I'VE BROUGHT UP THE, THE ISSUE OF AI BEFORE IT, UH, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT, UH, OF THE TOOLS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO, UM, TO MAKE YOUR DEPARTMENT AND YOUR, YOUR JOB EASIER AND YOUR DEPARTMENT MORE EFFICIENT.
UM, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC, UH, YES OR NO.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY IN THE LEGAL, IN THE LEGAL, UH, AREA.
UM, AND THERE, AND LET ME SAY, I'M PARTICULARLY CLOSE TO THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I PERSONALLY, I'M WORKING ON A PRODUCT THAT WILL, THAT IS USING AI TO REPLACE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT I USED TO DO MANUALLY, UH, IN, IN THE CONSULTANT AREA THAT I, THAT I WORK IN, WHICH INVOLVES ECONOMIC ANALYSIS.
SO, UM, I'M, I'VE BECOME AWARE OF A LOT OF THINGS.
ONE OF, ONE OF 'EM IS THE REAL POWER OF AI TO CREATE EFFICIENCIES, TO REDUCE ERROR AND, UH, AND TO, TO GENERATE BETTER QUALITY PRODUCT.
UM, AND I'VE ALSO SEEN, UH, FROM SPEAKING TO MANY, MANY COMPANIES EVERY WEEK ABOUT OUR PRODUCT, THAT IT IS, IT SEEMS TO BE A BEST PRACTICE OUT THERE FOR, UH, COMPANIES TO REQUIRE THEIR, UM, SENIOR, UM, EXECUTIVES TO LOOK INTO IMPLEMENTING AI.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, THAT IT'S OUT THERE.
UH, IT'S STILL CLUNKY IN MANY PLACES, BUT, SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT INCLUDING, UM, A, A GOAL THAT, THAT WOULD CONSIDER NOT TO IMPLEMENT IT, BUT TO LOOK INTO HOW IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HELP YOUR DEPARTMENT? THAT WAS A GOAL THAT WE HAD FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME, UM, THERE'S ALREADY SOME, UH, PROGRAMS OUT THERE.
HARVEY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LAW FIELD.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I'M, I'M REALLY KEEN ON IS ONE THAT EVERYTHING YOU PUT INTO THE ITEM, IT BECOMES OPEN RECORD.
SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO, WHAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN, IN THE DEPARTMENT IS USED AN INTERNAL DATA SYSTEM, OR IN OTHER WORDS, UH, FOR INSTANCE, DISCOVERY RESPONSES THAT WE'VE DONE PROBABLY FOR 10, 20 YEARS.
WE HAVE THOSE IN A, IN A DATABASE WHERE WE CAN GO AND LOOK AT 'EM.
BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE GET YOU THE, THE PRODUCTION OF IT AND, AND THE, IN A DOCUMENT.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE VIEWING AND, AND OBVIOUSLY COST IS ONE OF 'EM.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE INFORMATION YOU PUT INTO IT, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE HAVE SAFEGUARDS IN IT.
SO CERTAINLY, UH, DEFINITELY LOOKING AT, AT THAT AREA AND, AND I WOULD BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING MORE, BUT, BUT, UH, YEAH, THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED IS ONE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE AS, AS WE SELL, UH, OUR PARTICULAR SAAS PRODUCT, UH, TO, TO COMPANIES, THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF REVIEWING IT TO MAKE SURE TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE SAFETY.
UM, I AM SURE THAT THERE ARE LEGAL, UM, AI TOOLS THAT, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED, WHERE THE DATA'S ENCLOSED, WHERE IT, IT NOT ONLY DOES NOT GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, UH, REALM, BUT IT ALSO DOES NOT ALLOW ITS OWN AI TO LEARN FROM DART'S INFORMATION.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR MANY OF THESE, UH, COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT.
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I'M PUSHING BACK IN EFFECT,I, UH, UH, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PUTTING IT AGAIN, UH, AS A ONGOING, UH, PROCESS? 'CAUSE I, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT YOU, YOUR DEPARTMENT IN DART WOULD BENEFIT QUITE A BIT IF THE RIGHT PRODUCT IS FOUND.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. VAN KRAUS, THEN MR. LOPEZ? UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, UM, WHERE WOULD, UH, MONITORING THE, UH, MEETING THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE HIGHLAND PARK WITHDRAWAL? WOULD THAT BE UNDER SIX? COMMUNICATE WITH SERVICE AREAS? IT'S, IT'S IN NUMBER ONE.
UM, AND MAYBE I CAN WORD IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UH, IT SAYS, WORK WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND ACCOUNTING FIRM TO FINALIZE FINANCIAL OBLIGATION, WITHDRAWN CITY.
THE NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO IN RED THAT, NO, THAT, THAT ANSWERS MY THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, MR. LOPEZ, THREE MINUTES.
UM, UNDER STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER FOUR, UM, I GUESS MAYBE I'M A LITTLE BIT JADED ON THIS ONE, BUT, UH, THE AS CHAIR OF AUDIT, UM, I SEE A LOT, UM, I'LL SAY IT LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, JUST THIS CULTURE OF ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, OF, OF REALLY PURSUING FRAUD TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
UM, THIS CULTURE OF MAYBE OF DETERRENCE, UM, MAYBE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, UH, DART, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANT THAT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, UH, UNDER NUMBER FOUR.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE NUMBER FOUR IS REALLY KIND OF TACTICAL IN NATURE.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO SEE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, OF A STEP BACK IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF, UM, WHEN THINGS GO WRONG THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE PURSUED DILIGENTLY AND WITH THE RESOURCES THAT COME WITH YOUR OFFICE.
JEAN, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE LANGUAGE RELATED TO ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, IN STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER FOUR.
JUST WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I, I, I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD RESPOND WITH THAT IS UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE EMPLOYEE MANUAL, UNDER THE PUBLIC INTEGRITY COMMITTEE, MYSELF, THE CHIEF AUDIT OFFICER, AND THE, UH, THE CEO ALREADY HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING, ANY THEFT, ANY KIND OF FRAUD, ANY KIND OF MISUSE OF DART PROPERTY, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO AFTER IT.
AND WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE HAVE SUBPOENA POWER.
IN, IN THE, THE POLICY ITSELF SAYS THAT IF YOU NEED TO USE A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU CAN USE A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR A EM, UH, WHAT I'LL DO IS I, I'LL REVIEW IT.
UH, THIS WAS MEANT, UH, WITH, I MEAN, I KNEW THE PICK WAS IN PLACE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WHEN SOMEBODY DEPARTS, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE RECONCILE SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY LEAVING? SO WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN, UM, UH, SEND YOU THE LANGUAGE AND WHAT THE PICK IS AND THEN SEE IF, IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT OR IF YOU WANT ME TO, TO INCORPORATE IT HERE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
LET'S, UH, LET'S, LET'S PURSUE IT LIKE THAT.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UH, THIS IS JUST FOR COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE AT THIS POINT, RIGHT, MR. CHAIR.
SO YES, WE MAY TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, MR. ENOCH? THREE MINUTES? YEAH, ROY, I, I'M JUST, I'M NOT, I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING HIM TO DO.
SO WOULD YOU HELP ON ACCOUNTABILITY, WHAT IN FOUR, AS WE LOOK AT THE, UM, THE STRATEGIC GOALS, I JUST WANTED TO REALLY DELINEATE, JUST REALLY SHOWCASE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING TO BE PURSUED.
UH, I THINK ACCOUNTABILITY HAS IS AN ISSUE TO BE TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DELINEATED, UH, IN YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS.
SO, SO LIKE IN FOUR YOU WOULD HAVE A SUB PURSUE FRAUD WITH GREAT, WITH AGGRESSIVELY, I MEAN, IS IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION, YEAH.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. WAN KRAUSE? TWO MINUTES.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, UM, ENSURING THAT THERE'S A LIST OF OPEN PROCUREMENTS FOR BOARD MEMBERS AS THEY GO TO
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MAYBE ANY APTA UM, MEETINGS.UM, WOULD THAT, WHERE WOULD THAT BE UNDER, UM, ETHICAL? 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE IT ACTUALLY, UM, MENTIONED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T GET INTO TROUBLE BY NOT KNOWING THAT SOMEONE HAS AN OPEN PROCUREMENT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN PROCUREMENTS IN DART AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR US TO KEEP UP WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S AN ONGOING ONE.
I WOULD PUT THAT ONE UNDER ONE.
THE LAST ONE RESPOND TO BOARD REQUEST.
I KNOW YOU'RE VERY DILIGENT WHEN YOU ASK, WHEN YOU LET ME KNOW, I'M GOING TO THIS CONFERENCE IMMEDIATELY COMMUNICATE WITH PROCUREMENT AND TELL ME, GIVE ME THE LIST AND THEN YOU'ALL GET THE MEMO AND I'LL TRY TO GET IT OUT FIVE BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE CONFERENCE.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD FALL.
UM, BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION, I JUST RECOMMEND YOU GET WITH, UM, MR. LOPEZ ON ITEM FOUR, MR. MCGREGOR ON, UM, A AND ON AI AND MS. JUAN KRAUSE ON POTENTIAL CONFLICTS IF MORE LANGUAGE IS NEEDED.
Y'ALL WORK AMONGST YOURSELF TO DO THAT.
IF NOT, WE, WE, AND THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE BOARD MEMBERS AND, AND YOU ON IT, THEN WE APPROVE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AS, AS IT IS GONNA BE APPROVED TOMORROW AS WE VOTE ON TODAY.
SO GET A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS.
SECOND CHECK HAS BEEN MOVED BY MS. JUAN KRAUS AND SECOND BY MR. MCGREGOR.
[15. +Approval of Contract Modification for Armed Security Guard Services (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Charles Cato) ]
OF CONTRACT MODIFICATION FOR ARMED SECURITY GUARD SERVICES.MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SEEKING, UH, MAKING RECOMMENDATION, SEEKING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED OF THE INTERIM PRESIDENT C, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER IS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT MODIFICATION FOR ARMED SECURITY GUARD SERVICES AT DART ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATING FACILITIES, PASSENGER STATIONS, AND FOR REVENUE AGENTS AND CLEANERS OF METROPOLITAN SECURITY SERVICES, INC.
DBA WALL AND SECURITY, UH, FOR TWO THINGS.
ONE, TO EXTEND THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD BY ONE YEAR TO AUGUST 31ST, 2027 AND TWO TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT BY EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR NEW TOTAL AUTHORIZED AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40,562,884.
JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, MY MOST OF THESE ARMED SECURITY OFFICERS ARE INWARD FACING AT HERE AT DART HEADQUARTERS REVENUE COLLECTION.
THEY'RE OUT IN, IN THE PUBLIC, UH, BUT BUSINESS BUS DIVISIONS WELL OPERATING, BUT WE DO HAVE 'EM AT CITY PLACE, UPTOWN STATION, PARK ROAD STATION, THE TAIL TRACK, SEVERAL LIGHT RAIL STATIONS.
WE MOVED THEM AROUND BASED ON THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND CRIME ISSUES.
AS, AS WE KEEP A DETAILED, UH, ANALYSIS OF OUR CRIME EVERY 15 DAYS, WE, WE REDEPLOY THEM BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS AND THEY ALSO ACCOMPANY OUR STATION CLEANERS.
SO SOME OF THESE SECURITY OFFICERS ARE OUTWARD FACING TO THE PUBLIC TO WHERE THEY'RE SEEN AT THE, AT THE STATIONS.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THIS ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS FROM FEBRUARY, 2022, UH, THROUGH THE BOARD RESOLUTION FOR $8 MILLION AND TWO YEARS WITH TWO ONE YEAR OPTIONS.
THE CURRENT CONTRACT WAS BASED ON BUDGET REDUCTIONS REQUESTED IN 2021, THE EXECUTION OF THE FIRST OPTION EARLY THAT WAS ADDING FUNDING AND ALLOWED FOR ENHANCED SECURITY OPERATIONS AT FACILITIES.
THIS ALLOWED US TO PUT THE SECURITY OFFICERS AT THE, AT THE RAIL OPERATING STATION, AT THE RAIL STATIONS, THE LIGHT RAIL STATIONS, AND TO, UH, ACCOMPANY THE CLEANERS AND THE REVENUE AGENTS.
THE SECOND OPTION WAS EXECUTED IN JANUARY, 2025.
UH, WE DID ASK FOR, AND YOU GRANTED A SIX MONTH EXTENSION REQUIRED FOR CONTINUITY THROUGH WORLD CUP, UH, DECEMBER.
AND WITH THAT WE WENT OUT TO PROCUREMENT.
AND BEFORE THAT WAS FINALIZED AND THAT WAS GONNA COME BACK FOR A PRESENTATION THAT WAS SOME, UH, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THAT WAS GONNA, WE BELIEVE WAS GONNA BE DETRIMENTAL TO THAT, TO THAT, UH, PROCESS.
SO NOW WE'RE COMING BACK TO ASK FOR, FOR, UM, THIS EXTENSION FOR ONE YEAR WITH THE CURRENT COMPANY.
SO WE CAN GO BACK OUT, UH, TO PROCUREMENT.
GET, ALLOW US TIME A, A YEAR TO GO BACK OUT TO PROCUREMENT FOR AN RFP FOR A A, A FULL CONTRACT.
SO AGAIN, I'M, UH, SEEKING, UH, YOUR APPROVAL FOR RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TO INTERIM PRESIDENT CEO OF THEIR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT MODIFICATION, UH, WITH, WITH WALDEN SECURITY TO EXTEND THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD BY ONE YEAR AND, UH, TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT BA IN HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
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ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? WHO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. SLAGEL.I HEAR YOU, MR. WEST, WITH A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE.
[16. Approval of Contract Modification for Milestone 8 and the Term of Contract for the Design-Build Services for the Silver Line Regional Rail Project (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Trey Walker)]
CONTRACT MODIFICATION FOR MILESTONE EIGHT AND THE TERM OF CONTRACT FOR THE DESIGN BUILD SERVICES FOR THE CIVIL LINE REGIONAL RAIL PROJECT.UH, TODAY WE JUST HAVE A BRIEF ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM, UH, ON OUR CONTRACT WITH ARCHER WESTERN HERZOG JOINT VENTURE FOR THE BUILD OUT OF THE SILVER LINE REGIONAL RAIL PROJECT.
HOW WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, ADJUSTING MILESTONE EIGHT FOR FINAL ACCEPTANCE FROM AUGUST 31ST TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2026 AND CHANGING THE CONTRACT EXPIRATION DATE FROM AUGUST 31ST TO FEBRUARY 27TH, 2027.
THIS IS A $0, UH, CHANGE REQUEST, UH, TO THIS CONTRACT AND NO CHANGE TO THE BOARD AUTHORIZED CONTRACT VALUE.
UH, SO WE'RE MAKING THIS REQUEST, UH, LARGELY FOR TWO SORT OF, UH, LONG, UH, LONG PULLS IN THE TENT.
WE'VE GOT A CONTINUED WORK ON THE US 75 AESTHETIC ARCH, UH, FINALIZING, UH, THE COMPLETION OF THE LIGHTING PACKAGE ON THAT AND FINAL TURNOVER, UM, OF, OF THAT ASSET AS WELL AS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS OF THE ROADWAY.
UH, AT LUNA ROAD IN CARROLLTON, WE HAVE, UH, UTILITY LOCATE THAT'S TAKING US A LITTLE LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED AT THAT LOCATION, UH, TO CLEAR A GAS LINE PRIOR TO PROCEEDING WITH WORK.
UH, WE BELIEVE BOTH OF THESE ITEMS, UH, CAN, UH, CAN CONTINUE WITHIN THIS, UH, NEW MILESTONE DATE.
UM, AND, UH, WE WILL NOTE THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE OIP POLICY THAT WE MAINTAIN ON THIS PROJECT FOR, UH, INSURANCE COVERAGE DOES, UH, DOES END ON DECEMBER 12TH.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR, MAKE SURE WE'RE EITHER COMPLETE, UH, WITH FIELD WORK THERE OR HAVE THOSE NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, UH, SHOULD WORK EXTEND BETWEEN THE 12TH AND 31ST.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A NO COST CHANGE ITEM, UH, ON THE CONTRACT.
AND, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, UH, WE TAKE THIS ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION TO ADJUST THESE TWO MILESTONES.
ONE, UH, FOR MILESTONE EIGHT TO DECEMBER 31ST, AND THEN CONTRACT COMPLETION AND EXPIRATION TO FEBRUARY 27TH, 2027.
I MOVE BY MS. MCGREGOR, SECOND BY SLAGEL.
PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE 14 IN FAVORS.
[17. *Briefing on Current Transit-Oriented Development Projects and Other Economic Development Matters (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Trey Walker)]
A BRIEFING ON CURRENT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS.KAITLYN HOLLAND, VICE PRESIDENT OF REAL ESTATE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON OUR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.
ANOTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS, AN UMBRELLA.
SO THIS VISUAL SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO ALL OF YOU.
UH, I I TYPICALLY GIVE A BRIEFING ABOUT EVERY SIX MONTHS, AND I LIKE TO INCLUDE THIS TO SHOW, UH, VISUALLY WHERE ALL OF OUR PROJECTS ARE.
SO YOU SEE WE HAVE THREE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT TRINITY MILLS, SMU MOCKINGBIRD, AND BUCKNER STATION.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PROGRESS PHOTOS IN, UH, LATER ON IN THIS BRIEFING.
THE PURPLE CIRCLES ARE WHERE WE HAVE A DEVELOPER SELECTED ADDISON STATION IN LAKE RAY, HUBBARD TRANSIT CENTER.
AND THEN, UM, UNDER A MEMBER CITY AGREEMENT, AN ILA WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND IS A SOUTH GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER.
AND THEN FINALLY, WESTMORELAND, YOU'VE SEEN THE BLUE CIRCLE THAT IS SUBJECT TO AN R-F-Q-R-F-P PROCESS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO LAUNCH, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE AS WELL.
WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE HERE FROM PAST BRIEFINGS IS THE ABSENCE OF A CIRCLE AROUND, UH, ARAPAHO STATION.
THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN TABLED FOR THE MOMENT.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THE CITY'S VISION FOR THAT SITE AND, UH, THE VISION THAT DART SUPPORTED, UH, JUST DOESN'T ALIGN WITH CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, UM, PUT ON THE SHELF FOR A BIT, UM, UNTIL THE MARKET CAN RECOVER TO SOME DEGREE.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE A FUTURE PROJECT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT SITE.
SO FIRST STEP IS OUR TRAINING MILL STATION.
THIS IS, UM, OUR MOST ADVANCED, UM, TIER.
UH, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND DART OWNED PROPERTY.
THE CITY CONTRIBUTED 15 ACRES.
DART IS CONTRIBUTING NINE ACRES.
YOU SEE THE YELLOW PORTION IS WHAT, UH, DART'S PROPERTY WHERE DART'S PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT WAS A SPLIT ON THAT THE CITY PUT IN, UH, YOU SEE THAT NICE PARK AREA AND THEN AVEVA, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SOME GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE.
WE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING IN NOVEMBER OF 2025.
UM, AND IT IS ALMOST COMPLETELY LEASED UP.
UM, WHAT IS NOT OCCUPIED IS, UM, ALMOST ALL UNDER LEASE.
UH, SO THE DEVELOPER IN THIS PROJECT, INTEGRAL, UM,
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HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF, OF, UM, CONVERTING THESE, WHAT WAS BARREN'S LAND INTO A REALLY VIBRANT AREA, REALLY LEANING INTO HEART PIECES THAT REFLECT THE, UH, RAILROAD HISTORY IN THIS AREA.THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE IN THE BLUE, BLUE SHADED AREA ADJACENT TO A VVA THAT WILL BE OFFICE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE READY TO KICK THAT OFF.
FINANCING HAS, HAS BEEN, UM, A LITTLE TOUGH FOR OFFICE IN THIS MARKET.
UM, BUT THAT HAS BEEN, UM, SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED.
UM, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE SOME REAL MOVEMENT IN THAT SOON.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME, THE CITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DART AND THE DEVELOPER IS REALLY TRYING TO ACTIVATE THIS SPACE THROUGH COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UH, DART HAS LICENSED THE, THE YELLOW PORTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT YET UNDER A LEASE AGREEMENT.
WE'VE LICENSED IT TO THE CITY TO ALLOW FOR PARKING THERE FOR THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND HAVE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT TURNOUTS, UM, TO JUST ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO, TO EMBRACE THIS AREA.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP WITH KIND OF PROMPTING NEW PHASES AND, UM, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THAT THIS IS THE SURFACE PARKING CLOSEST TO OUR STATION IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT INCLUDED UNDER THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WITH CARROLLTON AND INTEGRAL, UM, BUT IT'S ABOUT 16 ACRES, A LITTLE OVER 16 ACRES, AND IS ONLY ABOUT 14% UTILIZED.
SO WE SEE EVEN AFTER THESE PHASES THAT WE HAVE PLANNED ARE COMPLETED, THAT COULD BE, UM, A FUTURE, UM, ADDITIONAL COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT.
MOVING ON TO PALLADIUM AT BUCKNER STATION.
THIS PROJECT, UH, THE ZONING WAS FIRST APPROVED IN NOVEMBER.
UH, THEN DA, THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION APPROVED BONDS IN JANUARY, AND WE REALLY MOVED EXTREMELY QUICKLY TO CLOSE IN JULY OF 2025.
STARTED CONSTRUCTION IN AUGUST, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO START LEASING UNITS THIS FALL WITH COMPLETION IN THE SPRING OF 2027.
SO THIS PROJECT CONVERTED 391 UNUTILIZED PARKING SPACES INTO 304 UNITS.
SO UNT TAXABLE SURFACE PARKING LOT NOW INTO TAXABLE IMPROVEMENTS.
NO, NOT TAXING BASED ON, ON THIS PROJECT, BUT AT LEAST, UH, A GREAT VALUE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THAT'S 244 UNITS AT 60% A MI AND 60 UNITS AT MARKET RATE.
AND WE DID HAVE SOME QUITE A BIT OF BUST DISRUPTIONS AT THE, IN THE INITIAL PHASES OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, HAS HAD A LOT OF COLLABORATION WITH PALLADIUM, THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS SITE.
UM, AND OUR OPERATIONS TEAM WAS FANTASTIC.
UM, WE OPENED NEW BUS SPACE AT THIS STATION RIGHT IN TIME FOR FIFA, SO THAT WAS A, A BIG LIFT.
AND THESE PHOTOS THAT YOU SEE WERE TAKEN IN JULY, SO RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S MOVING ALONG WELL.
THEN OUR MOCKINGBIRD STATION, THIS IS A 16 ACRE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
PHASE ONE CONSISTS OF A RESIDENTIAL TOWER AND DARK GARAGE, WHICH WILL HAVE 500 SPACES.
IT'S A SUBSURFACE GARAGE, SO WE DO ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION ON TOP OF THAT GARAGE.
UM, AT, AS THE FINAL PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, THE MULTIFAMILY IS 394 UNITS, 20%, WHICH ARE AFFORDABLE.
AND THIS PROJECT, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, DID WIN D MAGAZINE'S 2026 BEST MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE URBAN CATEGORY, WHICH IS, UM, GREAT, UH, IT HAS $123 MILLION VALUE.
AND SO, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT OPENING.
UM, IN THE FALL OF NEXT YEAR, LEASING WILL START IN THE SPRING.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF UTILITY CON, UM, CONFLICTS BEING RECTIFIED RIGHT NOW.
SO A LOT OF DISRUPTIONS THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON MOCKINGBIRD AND COLA AND TWIN SIXTIES, UH, THAT WILL CONTINUE UNFORTUNATELY THROUGH THIS YEAR, BUT SHOULD FINISH THAT UP IN SPRING.
UM, AND THEN IT'LL BE SMOOTH SAILING FROM THERE ON OUT.
ADDISON STATION JUNCTION, THIS IS A 19 ACRE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
ADDISON IS CONTRIBUTING 13 ACRES, DART, ROUGHLY SIX ACRES.
SO YOU SEE THE, THE BLUE SHADED AREA IS THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S PROPERTY.
OURS IS THE YELLOW AND THE PURPLE.
SO IT'S ENVISIONED FOR THIS SITE RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN SELECTED AS QUADRANT INVESTMENT, UM, QUADRANT INVESTMENT PROPERTIES.
SO ON THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY, UH, YOU SEE A HOTEL ANTICIPATING SOME RETAIL, A RESTAURANT, AND A FARMER'S MARKET.
UH, THEN THE HANGER WILL BE AN EVENT SITE, UM, EVENT SPACE WITH, UM, ANTICIPATING MUSIC, FOOD, UM, REALLY TO, TO BRING THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT.
UM, AND THEN OFFICE AND RETAIL IN THE, IN THE FAR BLUE AREA RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME COLLABORATING WITH ADDISON STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER TO ENVISION A FUTURE FOR THIS SITE THAT REALLY SUPPORTS ADDITIONAL TRANSIT UTILIZATION BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HUB OF ACTIVITY.
SO WE ARE AT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW WITH OUR BUS BAY, AND YOU MAY RECALL IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, A PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL BUS BASE TO BE CONSTRUCTED THIS, THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO WHAT YOU, YOU DON'T SEE, BUT IN THE, IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF THIS, THE PLAN IS TO EXTEND THE BUS SPACE FURTHER DOWN.
UM, AND THEN WHAT WAS FORMERLY, WHAT AFFECTIONATELY CALLED THE BOWMAN BUILDING HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED, AND
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WE'LL USE THAT FOR TRANSIT PARKING.AND THEN THAT AREA IN, IN PURPLE YOU'LL SEE WILL BE OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE HANGAR.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE OVERFLOW PARKING FOR OUR TRANSIT RIDERS.
AND THE PURPLE AREA WILL BE SUBJECT TO A SHARED USE AGREEMENT.
WHAT WILL BE, UM, WHERE THE HANGAR WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO A LONG-TERM GROUND LEASE FOR WESTMORELAND STATION.
SO THIS IS OUR NEW TOD PROJECT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING HARD ON.
THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS, UM, INITIATED ON THEIR OWN REZONING OF THIS AREA.
WE ARE SUPPORTING THAT AND, AND, UH, NUDGING TO THE EXTENT WE CAN.
UM, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT DELAYED BECAUSE OF STAFF SHORTAGES ON THE CITY SIDE.
UM, BUT IT'S A LARGE AREA THAT'LL BE REZONED ALL AROUND THE STATION.
THEY EXPECT TO HAVE A, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THIS TO COUNCIL APPROVAL HOPEFULLY IN MAY OF NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL ALIGN PRETTY WELL WITH OUR SOLICITATION PROCESS.
THIS IS 672 SPACES, ONLY AN 8% USAGE RIGHT NOW.
SO A QUICK TIMELINE, UM, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR APPROACH FOR THE SOLICITATION.
IN THE PAST, WE'VE USED RFPS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, AND WE WANTED TO APPROACH THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, UM, IS THAT REALLY THE IMPORTANCE OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH DEVELOPERS AND REALLY HAVING A GOOD PARTNER FOR EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS.
UM, WE HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE AGENCY, BUT REALLY WE NEVER WANT TO USE THE, WE NEVER WANT TO HAVE TO ENFORCE THEM.
SO THE BEST THING IS HAVING A GOOD PARTNER BESIDE YOU.
UM, AND SO HOW WE WANNA APPROACH IT THIS TIME IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND CONCEPTS.
SO YOU'VE HEARD RFQ PROBABLY A LOT.
UM, THIS IS OUR OWN SPIN ON THAT.
UM, WE DON'T, WE WANNA A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST ABOUT THE DEVELOPER.
WE WANNA HEAR THEIR BIG PICTURE IDEAS FOR THE SITE.
SO WE MAKE SURE FROM THE OUTSIDE WE HAVE A SOMEWHAT SHARED VISION FOR HOW THIS SITE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
SO OUR PLAN IS TO RELEASE THE RFQ AND CONCEPTS BY THE END OF AUGUST.
THAT'S PROBABLY VERY, UM, AMBITIOUS.
UM, MORE LIKELY IT'LL BE IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, WE'RE, UH, WE FINALIZED THE DOCUMENT, BUT, UM, NEED TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND, AND REALLY IRON OUT OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, WHICH WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY VERSION, BUT, UM, REALLY TO BE FED UP AND BE READY FOR A REALLY TRY TO GET AS MUCH OF A ROBUST RESPONSE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THEN WE'D HAVE A DEADLINE LATE OCTOBER.
UM, THEN WE, WE WERE PLANNING ON INTERVIEWING SO WE REALLY GET A BETTER FEEL.
WE DON'T WANNA JUST READ PROPOSALS, WE WANNA SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE AND BE ABLE TO INTERVIEW THEM.
UM, IN DECEMBER, ROUGHLY SHORT LIST, UM, THE RESPONDENTS THAT ARE, ARE RANKED THE HIGHEST.
WE'D COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE IN AROUND JANUARY.
AND THEN WE'D START WORKING WITH THE SHORTLISTED RESPONDENTS IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR TO REALLY PREPARE PROPOSALS, MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH HOW, HOW THIS PROJECT CAN, CAN BE MOST SUCCESSFUL.
UM, AND REALLY WORK WITH THOSE SHORTLISTED RESPONDENTS TO PREPARE, PREPARE PROPOSALS AS THE SECOND STEP OF THE SOLICITATION PROCESS.
THEN IN MARCH TO APRIL TIMEFRAME, SELECT A SUCCESSFUL PROPOSAL, BRIEF ALL OF YOU AGAIN ON THAT SUCCESSFUL PROPOSAL, AND THEN BEGIN NEGOTIATING THE AGREEMENT, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, LONG-TERM GROUND LEASE.
WE ARE, UM, REALLY GONNA DIG OUR HEELS IN, UM, THAT THIS SHOULD BE UNDER A GROUND LEASE, A LONG-TERM GROUND LEASE.
SO WE HAVE A CONTINUING STREAM OF REVENUE FROM THIS SITE.
UM, HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
THOSE AGREEMENTS IN THE LATE 2027, UH, WITH A CLOSING POTENTIALLY, UM, AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND CONSTRUCTION IN SPRING OF 2028.
THIS IS A OPTIMISTIC TIMELINE, UH, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN.
UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY OUR BEST TO STICK TO AS CLOSE TO THE SCHEDULE AS POSSIBLE.
SOME UPDATES ON OUR CITY PARTNERSHIPS GO BACK OUR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE PROGRAM.
UM, IF YOU RECALL, WE, UH, BROUGHT THIS TO THE BOARD IN MAY OF 2025, A FRAMEWORK THAT WHICH YOU ALL APPROVED, AND THEN WE WORKED IT DILIGENTLY TO FINALIZE THAT AGREEMENT FORM, ISSUED THAT OUT TO ALL OF OUR MEMBER CITIES AS AN OPTION FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE.
NOW, THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC PROGRAM, SO ANY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT IS CREATED BY THE CITY THAT FITS THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PROGRAM, DART WOULD AUTOMATICALLY CONTRIBUTE BASED ON THE TERMS OF THE ILA, WE HAVE EX EXECUTED THOSE AGREEMENTS WITH RICHARDSON, CARROLLTON, AND IRVING AT THIS POINT.
UM, HAVE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH PLANO ABOUT, UM, ADVANCING THAT TO COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
UM, IN DALLAS, WE PRESENTED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN ALONG THESE SAME LINES, UM, WE ALWAYS ENVISION THAT THERE MAY BE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES THAT DON'T FIT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE AUTOMATIC PROGRAM.
AND THAT MIGHT WARRANT A SEPARATE ILA WITH SPECIFIC TERMS THAT REFLECT THAT ZONE AND THAT COMMUNITY AND
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THAT PROJECT, AND ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE KIND OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL PROGRAM.UH, WE'RE EXPECTING TO BRING SUCH AN ILA WITH ADDISON BACK.
UM, SEPTEMBER IS LOOKING MORE LIKE OCTOBER NOW.
UM, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
UH, THAT'LL HAVE DIFFERENT, A LITTLE DIFFERENT TERMS THAN OUR AUTOMATIC ILA, SOME STATUS OF OUR CURRENT AGREEMENTS.
THAT WAS A FRAMEWORK THAT, UM, WAS, IT WAS A TRY.
WE THOUGHT PERHAPS IT WOULD WORK BETTER, UM, IF DART LEASED ITS PROPERTY TO THE CITY, ALLOWED THE CITY TO CONDUCT THE RFP PROCESS, SELECT THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN, AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN SUB THE DEV AND THEN SUBLEASE THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THE DEVELOPER.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, UM, THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR IS THAT IT'S NOT A EASY APPROACH.
UM, IT MAKES THE NEGOTIATIONS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED TO HAVE A SUBLEASE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE DID ALLOW THAT ILA TO EXPIRE WITH EXPECTATION THAT DART WILL ENTER INTO A GROUND LEASE DIRECTLY WITH THE DEVELOPER QUADRANT INVESTMENTS FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO WE WON'T NEED THE ILA, UM, FOR THE, THE PASS THROUGH, SO TO SPEAK, THAT, THAT ILA CONTEMPLATED CARROLLTON.
WE STILL HAVE OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH CARROLLTON AND INTEGRAL IN GARLAND.
WE HAVE TWO ACTIVE ILAS, UH, SOUTH GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER, T-O-D-I-L-A, STILL ACTIVE, STILL MOVING FORWARD.
THAT'S A 92 ACRE TOD, UM, THAT WILL INVOLVE THE RELOCATION OF OUR CURRENT TRANSIT CENTER, LAKE RAY HUBBARD TRANSIT CENTER, T-O-D-I-L-A.
YOU SEE, THAT HAS AN ASTERISK BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME SITUATION AS THE ACT.
THE ADDISON ILA SAME STRUCTURE OF DART WOULD, WOULD LEASE OUR PROPERTY TO THE CITY, CITY, WOULD SUBLEASE TO THE DEVELOPER.
AGAIN, AS WE GO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, IT JUST MAKES IT MUCH MORE COMPLICATED UNNECESSARILY.
UM, AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL PIVOT WITH THAT, TERMINATE THE ILA AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GROUND LEASE DIRECTLY WITH THE DEVELOPER ANTHEM DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CASE.
RICHARDSON, I I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, HAS EXPIRED.
AND THEN DALLAS, WE DID HAVE A MOU IN PLACE FOR BECKNER HAMPTON, ROYAL ROYAL INN, WESTMORELAND IN LAKE JANE, STU LAKE GENE STATIONS, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE THAT LISTED AS EXPIRED.
TECHNICALLY IT EXPIRES IN NOVEMBER.
UM, BUT WE'RE ALMOST THERE ALREADY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS SUMMER WENT.
UM, SO, UM, THAT HAS EXPIRED, BUT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS A NEW MOU AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NOW.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH DALLAS STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A NEW MOU THAT PRIORITIZES SOME, A DIFFERENT LIST OF STATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.
UM, THINGS HAVE SHIFTED A BIT, AND SO, UM, A LITTLE, A FEW CHANGES TO THE SITES THAT WE REALLY PRIORITIZE.
INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE INITIAL BATCH, WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT WITH BUCKNER, SO WE CAN'T CALL IT A LOSS.
IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A, AN EFFECTIVE MOU.
UM, BUT NOW, UH, THE SITES THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING IS MLK JUNIOR PARK LANE AND WOULD LOVE LBJ SKILLMAN EIGHTH AND CORINTH.
AND AS OF TODAY, I BELIEVE WE'RE ADDING HAMPTON TO THIS LIST, WHICH WAS COVERED UNDER THE PRIOR MOU AND AS I KNOW, UM, A FOCUS PARTICULARLY OF COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
SO, UM, WE THINK THAT'S A GREAT SITE TO ADD TO THIS.
AND IT REALLY JUST, UM, FOCUSES BOTH THE CITY AND DART STAFF ON WHAT ARE OUR TOP SITES AND HOW DO WE KEEP MOVING THE BALL FORWARD WITH THESE SITES.
UH, SO UNDER THIS NEW MOU, THE CITY WOULD RE WOULD REALLY PRIORITIZE REZONING EFFORTS AND, UM, WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH US TO DETERMINE THE BEST WAY TO SOLICIT THESE PROPERTIES.
UM, WE WOULD TAKE ON THE WORK OF PRE-DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE SURVEYS, UM, PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENTS, UM, MAY IN SOME INSTANCES BE, UM, UH, GEOTECHNICAL WORK OR, UM, SUBSURFACE UTILITY INVESTIGATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR CERTAIN SITES THAT, UM, IT JUST ISN'T GONNA WORK IN TODAY'S MARKET FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TAKE ON, UH, THE COST BURDEN AND THE RISK OF DOING THOSE KIND OF EXPLORATORY ACTIVITIES, UH, THAT WE TAKE THAT ON FOR THEM AND MAKE THE SITE MORE READY FOR THEM TO JUMP IN AND DEVELOP IT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US.
THEN I ANTICIPATE WITH DALLAS ALSO BRINGING IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR WESTMORELAND STATION, HOPEFULLY AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
THEN WITH ADDISON, UM, WE WILL HAVE THAT TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE ILA THAT'S SPECIFIC TO A NEW ZONE THAT THEY JUST CREATED AROUND ADDISON STATION, AROUND ADDISON JUNCTION, THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN A GROUND LEASE WITH QIP FOR ADDISON JUNCTION, FOR THE AREA WHERE THE HANG THE HANGAR WILL BE LOCATED.
THEN FOR GARLAND, ANTICIPATING A GROUND LEASE WITH ANTHEM DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD TRANSIT CENTER, AND, UH, TERMINATION OF OUR EXISTING ILA.
SOME OTHER REAL ESTATE ACTIVATION THAT WE'VE BEEN BUSY WITH.
UH, YOU MAY RECALL THIS LEASE THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
UH, NORTH OAK CLIFF, UM, BOARD APPROVED IN JANUARY.
WE EXECUTED THE GROUND LEASE IN APRIL.
RENT PAYMENTS WON'T START UNTIL OCTOBER BASED ON THE BOARD'S DIRECTION.
UM, THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD IN FEBRUARY
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OF 2029 TO REEVALUATE THE MONTHLY RENT, WHICH IN OCTOBER WILL BE 5,000, IS BELOW MARKET FAIR MARKET VALUE.UM, AND SO THE BOARD WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE INCREASED AT THAT TIME.
IF YOU RECALL, THIS LEASE ALSO ALLOWS US TO RELOCATE THEM TO ANOTHER DART OWNED SITE ELSEWHERE.
SO WE CAN REDEVELOP THIS, THIS PROPERTY HOLISTICALLY WITH THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT, WHICH CURRENTLY HOUSES OUR NON RE NON VEHICLE, NON-REVENUE VEHICLE FACILITY.
AND THIS WAS COMPLETED IN TIME FOR FIFA GAMES.
SO THEY REALLY CAPITALIZED ON THAT EXCITEMENT, UM, AND HAS PROVED TO BE A GREAT COMMUNITY ASSET.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR REVENUE.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, WE LAUNCHED DART SPACE, WHICH IS AN ONLINE PLATFORM IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR.
PREVIOUSLY OUR REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN WORKING THROUGH PAPER APPLICATIONS AND CHECKS AND EMAIL BASED PROCESS.
AND SO WE CONVERTED THAT TO A COMPLETELY ONLINE SYSTEM THAT ACCEPTS, UM, CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS, A CH PAYMENTS AND HAS A COMPLETE WORKFLOW PROCESS.
SO IT'S A MUCH MORE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY APPROACH FOR, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO USE OUR RIGHT OF WAY AND ALSO HELPS INTERNALLY FOR US TO MANAGE THOSE REQUESTS AND GET THEM THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS EFFICIENTLY.
AND, UM, ALSO ALLOWS A LOT MORE VISIBILITY BY MANAGERS TO SEE WHERE IT'S AT IN THE PROCESS.
SO IF SOMEONE GOES ON VACATION, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THINGS GET, KEEP MOVING IN A TIMELY FASHION.
WE ALSO DO IN THAT PROCESS OF, OF CREATING THIS APPLICATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT WHO DID A FABULOUS JOB WITH IT, UM, REEVALUATED HOW MUCH WE WERE CHARGING PEOPLE TO, UM, TO APPLY FOR USE OF OUR, OUR REAL ESTATE AND DETERMINE THAT THEIR APPLICATION FEES AND WHAT WE WERE CHARGING FOR ENGINEERING REVIEW WAS TOO LOW.
IT WAS NOT FULLY, UM, UH, THE AGENCY WASN'T BEING FULLY REIMBURSED FOR THE STAFF TIME TO, TO REVIEW THESE APPLICATIONS.
SO SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR, WE HAVE COLLECTED ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN APPLICATION AND ENGINEERING REVIEW FEES.
UM, ALL OF THE ENGINEERING REVIEWS RIGHT NOW ARE BEING COMPLETED IN HOUSE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S JUST, UM, BEING US BEING REIMBURSED FOR OUR TIME DEVOTED TO THESE PROJECTS.
UH, WE'VE CLOSED 167 APPLICATIONS AND 139 ARE STILL IN PROCESS.
IN FY 2025, WE RECEIVED ALMOST $10 MILLION, UM, THROUGH THE LICENSE AGREEMENTS AND LEASES THAT WERE EXECUTED FOLLOWING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TOD REVENUE.
AND THIS IS JUST FROM JANUARY OF 2025 TO AUGUST OF 2026 BECAUSE ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD PROJECTS IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY BEEN RECEIVING ANY LEASE PAYMENTS.
UM, AND SO THOSE JUST STARTED WITH THE, UM, KICKOFF OF BUCKNER AND MOCKINGBIRD STATIONS.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE OTHER SMALLER 2D SITE THAT WAS UNDER A, A LEASE AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S CLOSE TO, WELL, $4.5 MILLION SINCE JANUARY OF 2025.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING ALONG WITH THAT.
AND AGAIN, BACK TO OUR LICENSE AND LEASE REVENUE.
JUST A LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN A 23% INCREASE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
AND SO, UM, YOU SEE THAT STUDY INCREASE THERE WAS A QUITE A BIT BUMP IN 2023, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF PROJECTS STARTING AGAIN AFTER COVID.
UM, BUT WE EXPECT THIS ESCALATION TO CONTINUE.
ALL OF OUR LICENSE AGREEMENTS HAVE AN ESCALATION COST, SO THEY DO INCREASE IN COST TO THE, THE LICENSEE EVERY YEAR.
SO WE HAVE THAT BUILT IN AND WE'RE, WE'RE BUSY PROCESSING MORE APPLICATIONS AND, AND EXECUTING MORE AGREEMENTS.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANALYSIS, UM, AND I DO HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT ADDRESS OUR, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDIES OVER THE YEARS, UM, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A BRIEF AND ITEM ONLY.
ANY QUESTIONS? MR. MCGREGOR? THREE MINUTES.
UM, UH, THAT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION BY THE WAY.
IT'S, UH, THIS IS REALLY, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF, I THINK TO ME, INTO THE CITIES.
UM, I, I'VE, UH, THREE QUESTIONS ON DIFFERENT TOPICS.
ONE OF 'EM IS ON THE, ON THE WESTMORELAND, TOD.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE MAP, AERIAL MAP OF, UH, THE ZONING? YES.
AND I BELIEVE, DO YOU APPROVED THE, YOU LAUNCHED THE ZONING MANY YEARS AGO.
UM, SO IS THE AREA BEING REZONED, THE AREA THAT'S IN GREEN? IT INCLUDES, IT, IT'S A LARGER FRAMEWORK.
SO THE AREA IS THE YELLOW THAT YOU SEE, THAT'S A CUTOUT, BUT THAT'S THE ENTIRE AREA, WHICH IS A 100, I BELIEVE 160 ACRES.
AND IT DOES INCLUDE OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, YOU REMEMBER THAT EARLY ON WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND I, I I BECAME MORE DISTANCED FROM THIS, BUT ABOUT THE CITY WORKING ON MAKING THE REZONING PROCESSES, PERHAPS SETTING AN OFF THE SHELF TYPE ZONING.
ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE INSIGHT INTO HOW, WHAT TYPE OF ZONING THEY ARE PURSUING AND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS? SO FOR THIS
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PARTICULAR REZONING, UH, THAT'S STILL IN THE PROCESS.AND THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE ALONG THE STANDARD LINES FOR THIS BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN IN THE, IN THE SHOOT FOR SO LONG MM-HMM
UM, WE ARE HAVING ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO EXPEDITE REZONING IN A MORE HOLISTIC WAY AND A AND A FASTER TIMELINE, UM, FOR OUR TIER D SITES.
MORE, UM, MORE ACROSS THE BOARD.
UH, WE HAD A MEETING JUST THIS MORNING THAT, UH, DIRECTOR KENNEDY PART, UH, PARTICIPATED IN AND, UM, MR. BRYANT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
CITY STAFF IS REALLY FOCUSED ON IT AND HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A CONTINUING CONVERSATION.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ARE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU PRIVY TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, UH, WITH THE OWNERS OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS? I THINK RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF THE, SO, SO ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE LIKE A BOTTLING COMPANY AND A, UH, I THINK IT'S A QUAKE OR BEY OR WHATEVER.
UH, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THERE'S, I, I'M SURE YOU WOULDN'T BE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE CITY IS TALKING TO THEM ABOUT, ABOUT REDEVELOPING, REZONING MOVING? UM, I, I'M NOT PRIVY TO ANY CONVERSATIONS, UM, ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.
OUR SOLICITATION DOES ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO ADD TO OUR PROPERTY WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO MAKE IT A LARGER FOOTPRINT.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT ENCOURAGES DEVELOPERS TO TRY AND BUNDLE OUR PROPERTY WITH THAT PROPERTY OR OTHERS CLOSE SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE OF AN IMPACT.
UM, WE DO OWN THIS, THE SPUR THAT GOES KIND OF IN BETWEEN MM-HMM
THOSE BOTTLING COMPANIES MM-HMM
UM, WHICH HAS GREAT TRAIL CONNECTION OPPORTUNITIES.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL IF YES.
UM, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SLIDE.
UH, S 14, THIS IS THE FOOTBALL FIELD IN NORTH OAK CLIFF.
UM, DO, WHEN, WHEN WILL IT BE, DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT'LL BE COMPLETED? WHEN IT'LL OPEN TO BE USED FOR, UH, FOR YOUTH OR KIDS? IT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW, UM, TO PU UM, BUT NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THE, THE LEASE AGREEMENT ONLY ALLOWS USE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, BY THE NONPROFIT PU THE NETWORK.
UM, AND THAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE LOWER THAN FAIR MARKET VALUE THAT WE'RE CHARGING, THAT IT, ALL OF THE USE OF THE PROPERTY REMAINS SOLELY FOR NON-PROFIT USE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS ALREADY ACTIVE ON.
UH, AND, UH, THE LAST ONE IS ON SLIDE 15.
THE NEXT SLIDE I, I, I NEED TO BE EDUCATED ON.
UM, SO I ASSUME THAT THE RW LICENSES AND LEASES ARE FOR THE USE OF THE RAIL, CORRECT? BY THE, OKAY.
AND THEN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GETTING TOD REVENUE FOR? SO THE TOD REVENUE IS MADE UP OF A COUPLE OF GOOD FAITH PAYMENTS BY TRAMMELL CROW FOR OUR MOCKINGBIRD PROJECT THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THEY STARTED PAYING GROUND LEASE PAYMENTS FOR THE PHASES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S IT.
IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT MONTHLY.
UM, THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHAT A, WHAT THIS SKEWS THE NUMBER A LITTLE BIT, BUT BECAUSE WE SOLD THE BUCKNER STATION THAT'S IN COMP ENCOMPASSED IN THIS.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS, UM, A PRETTY NICE NUMBER AS WELL.
UM, KEEP IN MIND, EVEN THOUGH WE SOLD THAT PROPERTY, SO WE HAD A LARGE KIND OF UPFRONT PAYMENT, UM, WE DO HAVE A REVERSIONARY INTEREST FOR THAT PROPERTY, SO IT WILL COME BACK TO US.
SO IT WILL, IT STILL OPERATES IN EFFECT, LIKE A GROUND LEASE.
WE JUST GOT ALL OF OUR MONEY UP FRONT.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A, A VERY SMALL LEASE AGREEMENT THAT I'M CHARACTERIZING AS A TIER D BECAUSE I THINK IT IS, UM, FOR A PORTION OF OUR SANTA FE TRAIL THAT WE HAVE UNDER A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR A, UM, FOR A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT MILL CREEK.
UM, AND SO IT'S A, THEY USED OUR PROPERTY FOR A TRAILHEAD AND IT WAS A, A GREAT TINY LITTLE PROJECT, BUT WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE OUTTA THAT AS WELL.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING FANTASTIC WORK.
UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE 10, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TS AGREEMENTS.
I'M TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY, UM, AROUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ILA FOR DART'S, AUTOMATIC PARTICIPATION INTS VERSUS THE STANDALONE ILA PARTICIPATION FOR ADDISON JUNCTION.
THAT'S GONNA COME BEFORE US NEXT, UM, MONTH FOR CONSIDERATION.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE BULLET POINT VERSION.
UM, SO THE PROGRAM, THE AUTOMATIC PARTICIPATION, UM, PROVIDES CERTAIN TIME, CERTAIN FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT ZONES QUALIFY.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A TRANSIT ACRE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE ZONE.
UM, WE ONLY CONTRIBUTE FOR 10 YEARS.
UM, IT SETS OUT WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTION WILL BE.
SO YOU HAVE, UH, IT SETS OUT THE PARAMETERS FOR DETERMINING THE BASE VALUE AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE THAT, UM, THE INCREMENT THAT WOULD BE THEN PAID BACK INTO THE ZONE.
UM, AND IT'S ALL KIND OF VERY DETAILED, VERY SPECIFIC.
UM, IT HAS A MECHANISM, SO IT'S UNLIMITED NUMBER OF ZONES
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THAT COULD QUAL AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE, THE PARAMETERS THAT WE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO UNDER THE PARAMETERS OF THE ILA.AND SO IT SETS OUT A SYSTEM FOR THE CITY ONCE IT'S EXECUTED FOR THE CITY TO COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A ZONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONTRIBUTE TO.
IT MEETS ALL OF THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ILA.
WE WANT YOU TO CONTRIBUTE AT THIS AMOUNT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE QUALIFY FOR THIS REASON.
UM, AND, AND DART HAS NO DISCRETION AT THAT POINT REALLY TO, TO SAY NO SO LONG AS IT MEETS ALL OF THE PARAMETERS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY CONTRACTUALLY AGREED.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, GUARDRAILS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AGENCY DOESN'T OVEREXTEND ITSELF.
AND SO OUR CONTRIBUTION, UM, REALLY IS, IS IS RELATIVELY LIMITED BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET OVER OUR SKI, OUR SKIS, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, AND IT IS, UH, A FIVE YEAR ILA, SO THEY HAVE FIVE YEARS TO COME TO US WITH THOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'LL CONTRIBUTE FOR 10 YEARS.
UM, AND SO IT'S REALLY A, LET'S SEE HOW THIS WORKS KIND OF PROGRAM.
UM, AND, AND IT'S A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
ALL OF THE MEMBER CITIES HAVE THE EXACT SAME DEAL.
UM, AND SIMILAR TO THE G-P-I-L-A, UM, NOW FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADDISON ILA, UM, WILL HAVE CERTAIN DIFFERENT TERMS. THEY'RE REQUESTING A DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTION PERIOD.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE WAY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DRAFTING IT RIGHT NOW IS TO TRY AND MIRROR TO THE EXTENT WE CAN THE I, THE AUTOMATIC ILA, JUST SO IT LOOKS FAMILIAR TO ALL OF YOU.
AND WE TRY TO, UM, SOMEWHAT KEEP IT UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA.
UM, BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE WITH ADDISON IS, UH, THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR A 30 YEAR CONTRIBUTION AS OPPOSED TO THE 10 YEAR CONTRIBUTION WE DO FOR OTHERS.
SO IT'S OUTSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF THE AUTOMATIC TURS AND THAT'S WHY THE BOARD HAS TO, UH, GIVE ITS APPROVAL.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN MAY.
UM, THERE MAY BE A ZONE ADDISON, THIS ZONE IS, IS RIGHT, IS ENCOMPASSES THIS, THE ADDISON JUNCTION, TE OD.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY, AS AN AGENCY SHOULD WANT TO BE A MORE ACTIVE FINANCIAL PARTICIPANT IN.
WE BENEFIT FROM THAT THROUGH THE GROUND LEASE.
UM, REALLY IT'S A WIN-WIN, UM, ZONE FOR US TO CONTRIBUTE TO.
SO I, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UM, ONE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR A LONGER CONTRIBUTION.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE TUR ESTABLISHING THE T PROGRAM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY BOARD MEMBERS IS, UM, UNDERSTANDING AND HAVING AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE AUTOMATIC AGREEMENTS, HOW ARE YOU INFORMING THE BOARD OF THESE AUTOMATIC AGREEMENT, UH, UH, TOURS, AGREEMENTS THAT, UH, AND ILAS? SO THE ILA REQUIRES ME TO BRIEF ALL OF YOU EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND IT REQUIRES THE MEMBER CITIES, UM, TO UNDERGO AN ANNUAL REVIEW SO THAT WE HAVE A, A HOLISTIC UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ZONE.
UM, IT ALSO REQUIRES A DART STAFF MEMBER TO SIT ON THAT TOURS BOARD SO THAT WE HAVE A FRONT ROW SEAT TO THAT.
UM, SO ALTHOUGH THE ILA REQUIRES A ONE YEAR BRIEFING TO THIS BOARD ON THIS, I ANTICIPATE THAT IT'LL BE WITHIN EVERY BRIEFING THAT I PROVIDE LIKE THIS.
SO ROUGHLY EVERY SIX MONTHS AT LEAST? YES.
BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE AT MINIMUM, SEMI-ANNUALLY, IF NOT QUARTERLY, JUST SO THAT NOTHING SLIPS BY, UM, OR SOMETHING IS OF CONCERNS.
UM, EARLIER IS BETTER THAN LATER IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS TO BE DISCUSSED.
UM, AND THEN TO GO TO PAGE, UM, I GUESS IT'S, UH, THREE, THE TRINITY MILLS STATION.
UM, YOU INDICATED THAT THE YELLOW, UH, DART OWNED, UH, THAT WE WERE, UH, MAKING AVAILABLE THAT SPACE FOR PARKING FOR, UH, OUR MEMBER CITIES, UH, DIFFERENT EVENTS.
SO WE HAVE A LICENSE AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT'S AN, A REVENUE LICENSE, UM, WITHIN A NEARBY CHURCH FOR A PORTION OF IT.
BUT THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS JUST SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW UNTIL IT'S DEVELOPED, UM, WE ARE LICENSING TO THE CITY OF CARROLLTON TO USE TO SUPPORT THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE USING THE PARK AREA.
AND IS THAT LICENSING, UM, JUST BEING GOOD PARTNERS OR IS THERE ANY UM, UH, REVENUE COMPONENT TO IT JUST BEING GOOD PARTNERS TRYING TO SUPPORT, UM, THE TIER D UM, HOLISTICALLY, UM, THAT WILL, RIGHT NOW UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO EXECUTE A GROUND LEASE WITH US IN SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THE REV, WE'LL START SEEING REVENUE FROM THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
WELL, I APPRECIATE SEEING, UM, DARK WORKING WITH OUR MEMBER CITIES, UM, TO GET A GOOD OUTCOME FOR EVENTS FOR THAT CITY.
ALRIGHT, MS. MILLIGAN, THREE MINUTES.
I THINK MR. MCGREGOR ASKED YOU ABOUT ZONING FOR THE, THE WESTMORELAND PARCEL.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU, YOU WENT INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT IT IS.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE ZONING WILL BE IF IT PASSES AT THE CITY? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THE ZONING WILL BE BASED ON SOME, SOMEWHAT ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
UM, BUT IT WILL ALIGN OF COURSE, WITH FORWARD 2.0.
UM, SO ANTICIPATING IT BEING VERY TE D FRIENDLY, VERY, UM, RELAXED SO THAT WE CAN DO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UM, WITH THE SITE.
SO, BUT NO, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS.
I AM DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
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NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO IT UP.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THIS THING? UM, JUST THAT IT'S THE STANDARD AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS.
SO THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE STAFF REVIEW, THEY'LL CONTEMPLATE WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
KAYLIN, COULD YOU BRING IT TO THE MICROPHONE? OKAY.
JUST BRING IT TO THE I JUST WANTED HER TO SAY TO ME, OKAY.
SO YEAH, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, PAM'S BEEN MORE IN THE WEEDS ON MAKING SURE THAT, THAT, UM, WITH THE GENTLE NUDGES TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON, ON ON PACE.
UM, SO IT'LL JUST BE THE NORMAL AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS.
UM, IT MAY, SO WE'LL SEE BASED ON THOSE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, WHAT THE ULTIMATE REZONING IS.
BUT IT SHOULD BE, UM, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE FROM THE CITY IN DART'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY TREPIDATIONS AT THIS POINT THAT IT, IT WON'T BE WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE, BUT SINCE THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS, AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THE RFQ OUT.
SO WE DO THINK THAT WE'LL, WE'LL LIKELY HAVE AT LEAST A POOL OF DEVELOPERS WHO CAN ALSO INFORM WHAT THE BEST ZONING WILL BE BEFORE THE AUTHOR.
BECAUSE I, I WOULDN'T WANT US TO GO THROUGH THE PAIN OF AN AUTHORIZED HEARING, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ZONING CHANGE.
AND SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE PROCESS TOO, WITH GETTING THAT SHORTLISTED GROUP OF RESPONDENTS AND BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE THAT IN, IN THE FINALIZATION OF THAT ZONING.
UM, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL MOVING FORWARD IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
SO WE DIDN'T WANNA MOVE TOO QUICKLY ON PUTTING OUT AN RFQ AND WE KIND OF SAT ON IT, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS MATERIALIZE OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE MAY SIT ON IT A LITTLE LONGER JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF IT.
UM, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, JUST MAKING SURE WE ALL MOVE AT THE SAME PACE TOGETHER, WHICH CAN BE TRICKY, BUT WE'LL SEE.
AND HAVE WE CONTEMPLATED THE RFQ BEING BROADER SO THAT IT COULD CONTEMPLATE PARTNERS FOR ADDITIONAL TOD SITES THAT WE OWN? RIGHT.
SO THAT WE'VE GOT A POOL OF, UM, POTENTIAL PARTNERS, RIGHT? LIKE WE, WE LIKE THEM AS A POTENTIAL PARTNER.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITES ARE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'VE STRUCTURED IT AS A TWO PART PROCESS.
AND ANYWAY, SO FIRST, WHO'S JUST A GOOD PARTNER REGARDLESS OF SITE AND THEN SITES.
AND SO IF WE HAVE MORE THAN WESTMORELAND, WHY NOT EXPAND THE RFQ TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON OTHER POTENTIAL SITES TOO? I SEE YOUR POINT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT, UM, LARGELY BECAUSE OUR SITES ARE SO DIVERSE AND THE DEVELOPERS THAT WE WILL ATTRACT.
AND SO IT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO PUT IT OUT FOR ALL OF OUR SITES 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET SUCH A WIDE ARRAY OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN, SAY, URBAN SITES, UM, LIKE INWOOD LOVE AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN WESTMORELAND.
AND SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE STRINGING THEM ALONG UNTIL WE'RE READY.
UM, SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN WITH, WITH DOING MORE.
THAT MAY BE AN APPROACH THAT MAKES MORE SENSE WITH THE, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MOU, WITH CITY OF DALLAS FOR MAYBE, MAYBE WE DO THAT FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THE SITES AND, AND, UM, TRY TO EXPAND THE, THE NET.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S A WORTHWHILE APPROACH FOR SURE.
AND PAM MAY BE FAMILIAR, BUT I KNOW THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY DID THAT PROBABLY ABOUT A DECADE AGO, UM, AS THEY WERE CONTEMPLATING JUST REDEVELOPMENT OF THEIR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO.
SO YOU JUST, YOU MAY GET A STRONGER SET OF, OF DEVELOPERS IF THEY KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE BITE AT THE, THE APPLE.
SO JUST A, JUST A SUGGESTION MM-HMM
UM, WITH BUCKNER, IT'S NOT REALLY FOR YOUR TEAM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFITS TO DART OTHER THAN FINANCIAL AS RIDERS, UM, HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO MARKET TO AND COMMUNICATE TO THE RESIDENTS OF BUCKNER OR THE RESIDENTS OF THE A VVA, UM, TO REALLY TURN THEM INTO, TO DART RIDERS RATHER THAN JUST ASSUMING JUST BECAUSE THEY LIVE NEXT TO THE STATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RIDE REGULARLY.
UM, SO WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH INTEGRAL, THE DEVELOPER FOR ATTORNEY MILLS ABOUT, UM, ENCOURAGING THEIR RESIDENTS AND OFFERING MAYBE, UM, DISCOUNTED FARES AND SOME KIND OF PROGRAM TO HELP DRIVE RIDERSHIP FROM THOSE THAT LIVE THERE.
UM, THAT IS A ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.
UM, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM, A BULK SALE PROGRAM, UM, THAT I THINK IS VERY APPLICABLE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY, UM, AND I'VE GIVEN SOME QUITE A BIT OF THOUGHT TO OF, OF INTEGRATING THAT IN OUR REQUIREMENTS IN THE GROUND LEASE, THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF, UM, PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS FEEDING INTO OUR RIDERSHIP MORE DIRECTLY THAN JUST PROXIMITY.
WELL, AND I, I GUESS I WOULD JUST ADVOCATE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR RESOURCES, WHETHER WE HAVE TO HEAVILY DISCOUNT TICKETS FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR SOMETHING, BUT TO BUILD LOYALTY AND JUST RIDERSHIP.
I, I THINK IT, IT MAKES SENSE EVEN FOR US TO TAKE SOME OF THAT ON RATHER THAN TO BE ADDING IT AS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE, THE DEVELOPER.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY WOULD DO THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE EXPENDITURE ON OUR PART.
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WE NEXT HAVE MR. ANNIE, THREE MINUTES, CAITLYN, EXCELLENT REPORT.AND NOT ONLY A GOOD PRESENTATION, BUT AN EXCELLENT REPORT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR TEAM.
UH, FOLKS IN GLEN HEIGHTS ARE WONDERING, I LIKE MANY OF OUR CITIES, WE HAVE, UH, LAND HERE JUST TO THE, UH, EAST OF THE, THE PARK AND RIDE.
AND WE'VE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING ANY TOD MOVING DOWN THERE.
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS JUST GENERALLY OFFLINE.
TE TELL ME HOW THE PROCESS GOES, BECAUSE AS MAUREEN JUST SUGGESTED, IF WE PUT IT OUT TO NOT ALL DEVELOPERS ARE INTERESTED IN ALL PIECES OF PROPERTY IN DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHO'S VERY INTERESTED IN MOCKINGBIRD AND SOMEONE WHO'S NOT INTERESTED AT ALL IN PLANO, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO WHEN WE ESTABLISH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER, DO WE GO OUT AND KNOCK ON DOORS? DO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT? OR DO WE, HOW DO WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT A PROPERTY IN GLEN HEIGHTS IS AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT? IF THAT IS THE CASE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO THE, THE, THE MAIN WAY WE DO THAT IS THROUGH OUR TO OD INVENTORY, UH, THAT HAS ALL OF OUR AVAILABLE TO OD SITES, UM, COMPILED.
UM, IT SETS OUT THE ZONING, WHETHER IT'S INCLUDED IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, ANY, UM, DEVELOPMENT IMPEDIMENTS, LIKE A POWER LINE EASEMENT, UM, ALL THE KIND OF INFORMATION, HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION THAT A DEVELOPER MIGHT TEASE THEIR INTEREST OR PUT THEM OFF, UM, FOR SOME OF THEM.
AND, UM, WE REALLY TRY TO, UH, PROMULGATE THAT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN, UM, ME AND ALL OF MY STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN TO, UM, SPREAD AWARENESS.
UM, BUT A LOT OF WHAT, HOW WE PRIORITIZE SITES AND WHAT GETS THE BALL MOVING, SO TO SPEAK, IS DEVELOPER INTEREST.
AND SO THAT'S DEVELOPERS COMING TO US AND WE MEET WITH THEM, DISCUSS THE ATTRIBUTES OF A SITE, UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL, WHICH REALLY GETS, GETS US MOVING FOR, UM, TO KNOW THAT THE SITE'S MAY BE DEVELOPMENT READY.
IT, IT, IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO GET ANYTHING MOVING WITHOUT A DEVELOPER WILLING TO SPEND HIS OR HER OWN MONEY ON THE PROJECT.
BUT WHEN, WHEN WE TALK TO THE DEVELOPER, WELL, ON ALL THESE TODS, DO WE HAVE A POLICY WITH RESPECT TO WHAT OUR, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE, DO WE GIVE MORE TO DEVELOPER A THAN TO DEVELOPER B AT DIFFERENT SITES? THESE ARE DIFFERENT SITES, NOT DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS IN PERCENTAGES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INCENTIVIZE CERTAIN THINGS, OR WE HAVE LESS TO GIVE IN LAND.
NOW I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT THE PACKAGE THAT WE OFFER THAT DART OFFERS THE DEVELOPER TO BE IN THIS PUB, WHETHER IT'S SUBLEASE OR WHATEVER.
DO WE HAVE A POLICY THAT ESTABLISHES HOW MUCH WE GIVE UP, HOW MUCH WE CONTRIBUTE TO A PARTICULAR TOD? SO WE HAVE A 2D POLICY THAT ADDRESSES KIND OF OUR HIGH LEVEL, UM, APPROACH TO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS FAR AS INCENTIVIZING A PROJECT.
WE'VE NEVER DIRECTLY INCENTIVIZED A PROJECT, UM, THAT'S REALLY THE CITY'S PREROGATIVE.
AND SO, UM, OUR APPROACH, WHEN WE MEET WITH DEVELOPERS, WE GIVE THEM AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE HAVE ON A SITE.
SOME SITES WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD DEVELOPERS MEET WITH US.
WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN A SURVEY FOR THAT SITE.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TO, TO PROVIDE TO THEM, BUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN FREE FREELY SHARE, UM, AND THEN IT'S, HERE'S OUR STANDARD APPROACH.
WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN IN NEGOTIATION SITE SPECIFIC.
UM, A LOT OF IT IS CITY INVESTMENT THAT PLAYS A HUGE ROLE.
WILL THE CITY BE SUPPORTIVE BOTH FROM ZONING AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO MAKE THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT FEASIBLE? UM, SO IT'S ALWAYS A GIVE US YOUR IDEAS, OPEN CONVERSATION, HOW CAN WE MAKE SOMETHING WORK? THANK YOU, CAITLYN.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, THANK YOU CAITLIN, FOR THAT EXCELLENT PRESENTATION THAT WAS, UH, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY, UH, REALLY A GOOD PRESENTATION AND ALSO GREAT TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON ALL OVER THE SERVICE AREA.
UM, I WANTED TO ASK, UH, IF A TOUR IS CREATED BY A CITY BEFORE THAT CITY EXECUTES THE ILA WITH DART, DOES THE ILA STILL COVER THAT TOUR? OR IS IT ONLY TOURS AFTER THE DATE OF THE ILA? NO, PRE-EXISTING ZONES WOULD ALSO QUALIFY.
AND THEN ALSO ON THE NORTH OAK CLIFF DEVELOPMENT, UH, ARE, ARE WE STILL, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, AT SOME POINT RELOCATING THE NON-REVENUE VEHICLE FACILITY AND PUTTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE COMBINED PARCEL OUT FOR REDEVELOPMENT? AND IF SO, WHAT MIGHT BE THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR FY 27, UM, FUNDS TO RELOCATE THE NRV UM, OPERATIONAL ACTIVITIES RIGHT NOW TO OUR SENATE STREET PROPERTY.
UM, WE DID, UM, GAIN BOARD APPROVAL TO PURCHASE SOME ADDITIONAL REAL ESTATE TO ALLOW THAT, UM, RELOCATION AS WELL.
SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH CLOSING ON THAT SITE, UM, TIMELINE.
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SEE HOW QUICKLY DESIGN GOES, UM, AND THEN KIND OF GAME OUT HOW QUICKLY WE WANNA TRY AND SOLICIT FOR THAT PROPERTY TOO.MILLIGAN'S EARLIER POINT, MAYBE WE INCLUDE THAT IN A, IN A LARGER SCALE, RFQ.
SO WE HAVE SOME DEVELOPERS IN THE QUEUE, UM, BUT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, UM, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A MORE FIRM DEADLINE THAN THAT.
UM, BUT IT IS A GREAT SITE THAT, UM, I, I KNOW ME AND MANY DEVELOPERS AND, UM, CITY MEMBERS ARE, HAVE THEIR EYE ON FOR THAT HAS A GREAT POTENTIAL.
BECAUSE I THINK BOTH IN TERMS OF THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT LAND AND ALSO REVENUE TO SUPPORT DART'S CORE OPERATIONS, I I THINK THAT REDEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, WOULD BE A PRIORITY.
SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR THAT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN, UH, THANK YOU ALSO FOR ADJUSTING THE REVIEW FEES TO ACHIEVE FULL REIMBURSEMENT OF THE REVIEW TIME.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T RECOUP FULL REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE TIME THAT WE SPEND REVIEWING APPLICATIONS, THEN, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX REVENUE HAS TO FILL THE GAP, AND I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THOSE WHO DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING TO PAY FOR IT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, UH, AS, AS SALES TAXPAYERS.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
ALONG THOSE LINES, I WANTED TO ASK, ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING FREIGHT REVENUE, YOU KNOW, FROM FREIGHT USAGE OF DARTS RIGHT AWAY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE REGION? SHORT ANSWER, NO.
UM, SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TRACKAGE RIGHTS AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH OUR FREIGHT TENANTS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE BNSF RAILWAY UNION, PACIFIC CPKC, UM, AND SHORTLINE RAILROADS, UH, FORT WORTH AND WESTERN AND, UM, DG O WHO OPERATE ON OUR LINES.
ALL OF THOSE TRACKAGE RIGHTS AGREEMENTS, UM, IN, IN TYPICAL FREIGHT STYLE ARE, UM, 99 YEARS.
UM, THAT'S STANDARD, UM, IN THE FREIGHT WORLD.
AND NEGOTIATING WITH CLASS ONE RAILROADS IS, IS I DON'T WOR WISH ON MY WORST ENEMY.
UM, WE HAD TO, RENE RENEGOTIATE A NUMBER OF OUR AGREEMENTS FOR THE SILVER LINE.
AND SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE ACTUALLY AN ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CPKC, UM, TO, TO REDO SOME OF OUR TERMS. AND I'M HOPING THAT RESULTS IN MORE REVENUE, UM, A MORE FAIR REVENUE FOR USE OF OUR LINES.
WE HAVE A TRANSITIONAL OPERATING AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH BOTH OF THOSE, THOSE FREIGHTS.
UM, AND THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR RENEGOTIATION OF OUR PACKAGE RIGHTS.
AND REALLY, IT'S KINDA LIKE ONE BITE OF THE APPLE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT RIGHT.
UM, WE ALSO RUN AMTRAK ON THE TRE.
UM, AMTRAK IS, UM, ALSO I NOT FAIRLY COMPENSATING EITHER, UH, DART OR ATTORNEY METRO FOR THE USE OF OUR, OUR LINE.
UM, AND SO NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY WITH AMTRAK AS WELL TO REDO.
SO THIS IS, WE'RE AT A, AT A POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, UM, RENEGOTIATE SEVERAL KEY AGREEMENTS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS AGENCY.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S WONDERFUL, CAITLIN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW HARD, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE ARE TO RENEGOTIATE AND HOW LENGTHY THE TERM IS.
I I THINK THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL, UH, BECAUSE I, I, I THINK WE, OUR RECENT DISCUSSIONS HAVE SHOWN THAT WE CAN'T JUST RELY ON SALES TAX REVENUE AND THINGS THAT PLACE A BURDEN ON 12 MEMBER CITIES, YOU KNOW, OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE ARE CRITICAL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE REALLY ON THE BALL ON THAT ALREADY.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, YOU KNOW, TO RENEGOTIATE THOSE AND GET DARK FAIRLY COMPENSATED.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THE BOARD CAN DO, UH, I WOULD PERSONALLY ASK THAT YOU BRING IT IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE I'D BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
UH, MR. LOPEZ, THREE MINUTES, CALY.
ALSO, I WANT TO CONVEY MY THANK YOUS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY RIDERSHIP IS ONE OF OUR, OUR KEY METRICS HERE, BUT, UH, ANOTHER METRIC THAT I THINK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THIS ORGANIZATION IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACT OF, UH, OUR TO OD SITES AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, SO I ASKED THESE QUESTIONS UNDER THAT KIND OF PREMISE.
UH, MY FIRST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, THAT THE REAL ESTATE SECTION HAS A $10 MILLION REVENUE PER YEAR.
UH, HOW MANY, HOW, HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE DEDICATED TO TO, TO THAT WORK? UM, SO WE HAVE A REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLES THE LIGHT RAIL CORRIDORS AND A RAILROAD MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLES OUR COMMUTER AND FREIGHT RAILS.
SO OUR RAILROAD MANAGEMENT IS MADE UP OF FOUR.
OUR REAL ESTATE THAT HANDLES THAT COMPONENT IS MADE UP OF THREE.
UM, AND, UH, SO THAT'S, THEY HANDLE ALL OF, ALL OF THE LICENSES, ALL OF THE REQUESTS ARE USED, UM, ARE ANY OF OUR CORRIDORS, SO, SO, SO DEFINITELY A, A REVENUE GENERATING SECTION WITHIN DART.
UH, DOES THE EXCESS REVENUE GO INTO PURCHASING MORE PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF DART? UM, INDIRECTLY IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT, AND, AND HOW MUCH GENERALLY IS PURCHASED PER
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YEAR? AND YOU LEMME CORRECT MY, WE DO NOT ACQUIRE.UM, AND I SHOULD HAVE, I I SHOULD HAVE ANSWERED YOUR EARLIER QUESTION MORE CORRECTLY.
ALL, ALL OF OUR, THE REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE FROM OUR QUARTERS GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
WE HAVE NEVER SO FAR, UM, I SHOULDN'T SAY NEVER.
IT IS VERY RARE, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A TIME ON HAND, BUT I'M, I'M NOT GONNA PROMISE IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
UM, LAND BANKED, UH, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO OF, OF ACQUIRING DESIRABLE PROPERTY IN ANTICIPATION OF FUTURE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GET TO THAT POINT AT, AT SOME POINT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF REAL ESTATE ASSETS.
UM, WE HAVE A LONG RUNWAY TO GET THERE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, SO FAR REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION BEING SOLELY FOR TRANSIT, UM, OPERATIONS.
WELL, SOMETHING CERTAINLY TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
UH, IS THERE ANY STATE LEGISLATION THAT PROHIBITS YOU FROM DOING THAT? PROBABLY NOT, RIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
UH, 436 UNITS AT TRINITY MILLS 304 AT BUCKNER 394 AT MOCKINGBIRD STATION.
WHAT, APPROXIMATELY 1200 IN THOSE THREE TO D SITES, HOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY ARE AFFORDABLE UNITS? OKAY, SO 20% AT MOCKINGBIRD, 20% AT MOCKINGBIRD, UH, 80% AT BUCKNER ARE AFFORDABLE.
UM, AND THOSE ARE, UH, RIGHT NOW ATTORNEY MILLS DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UM, AFFORDABLE COMPONENT TO IT.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE AFFORDABILITY NUMBERS AT THIS POINT.
MR. LOPEZ, I'M GONNA HAVE, HAVE THE GENERAL COUNSEL CLARIFY WITH SOMETHING REAL QUICK ON THE, ON THE, UH, ON THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY, THE 4 52 LIMITS.
IT'S GOTTA BE FOR TRANSPORTATION RELATED PURPOSES.
THE, UH, THIRD QUESTION HERE HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, THE TARGET A TOD SITES, UH, AND HOW MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT GOES INTO, UH, PRIORITIZING A TOD SITE.
UH, SO WE DON'T, MY STAFF IS TOO SMALL TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, SO TO SPEAK, AND, AND REALLY TRY AND, AND DO IT THAT APPROACH.
WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY TRY TO KEEP OUR EAR TO THE GROUND, UM, AND WORK WITH CITY STAFF.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, MLK ALREADY HAS A LARGE, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS UNDERWAY, AND SO WE TRY TO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE THAT ARE GOING ON.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY TRY TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON ON THE SAME PAGE.
NOW, THERE'S CERTAIN SITES THAT YOU HAVE VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEY COME REACH OUT TO US AND WE HAVE, UM, OPEN DIALOGUE.
THERE'S, FOR EXAMPLE, A COMMUNITY MEMBER LIKE THAT AT LBJ SKILLMAN THAT HAS BEEN, THAT REALLY CAN CATALYZE THE MOVEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO ENGAGED.
AND SO WE LOVE THOSE KIND OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HELP US STAY IN LINE WITH, WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FORSIGHT.
SO ALL MY QUESTIONS REALLY KIND OF PEAK TOWARDS THE QUESTION OF, OF MARKETING THE STORY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOD STORY IN DALLAS OR IN WITHIN OUR, UH, UH, 12 SERVICE AREAS.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE, THE MARKET STUDIES DONE AROUND, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MOCKINGBIRD STATION.
WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT? UM, HAS THAT STORY BEEN TOLD? UM, HOW DO WE MARKET THE FACT THAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS X NUMBER OF MILLION? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN AMAZING STORY.
AND THEN KIND OF THE QUANTITATIVE BENEFITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THAT THIS DOESN'T IMPACT THE, THE TAXPAYERS, UH, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, YOU KNOW, IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, YOU PROBABLY DID, BUT WE'VE SEEN APPRECIATION IN SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES.
THERE'S A GREAT STORY THERE, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND HOW DO WE MARKET THAT STORY OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT? AND NOW THAT WE'RE COMING TO CLOSE IT AT, UH, MOCKINGBIRD STATION, I'M REALLY CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THAT HAS DONE.
SO FOR OUR, OUR 2D PROJECTS INDIVIDUALIZED, WE WORK WITH OUR COMMUN COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FULLY INFORMED OF THE IMPACTS OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, AND SO THAT COMES OUT IN THE FORM OF PRESS RELEASES.
UM, I I'M JUST FLIPPING TO, TO, UM, BRIEFLY MENTION OUR UNT STUDY, WHICH YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, THIS IS A STUDY THAT UNT HAS BEEN PERFORMING FOR US FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.
THE LATEST ITERATION COVERS 2022 TO 2024, AND THAT LOOKS AT ALL OF OUR LIGHT RAIL STATIONS, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE RADIUS OF OUR LIGHT RAIL STATIONS, EXCLUDING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
SO THE NEXT ITERATION OF THIS REPORT WILL COME OUT, UM, WILL BE, WILL BE LOOKING AT THE 2025 TO 26 PERIOD.
AND SO AT THE END OF 26, WE'LL THAT REPORT
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WILL START BEING, UM, PREPARED AND FINALIZED.UM, SO THIS TELLS US, UM, THESE STUDIES TELL US SOME OF THAT GREAT ECONOMIC INFORMATION, UM, ON A KIND OF LARGE SCALE OF APPROACH.
UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR STUDY THAT FROM THE LAST ITERATION LOOKED AT RENT PREMIUMS. AND THAT SHOWED US THAT OUR, OUR TOD SITES CATALYZE A 10% IN PRIME, UH, 10% INCREASE IN RENT PREMIUMS AND A 12.6 FOR COMMERCIAL SITES.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE GREAT NUMBERS THAT WE GET OUT OF THE UNT STUDY.
UM, A TOTAL OF $18.1 BILLION OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS.
THAT'S A DIRECT ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM OUR LIGHT RAIL STATIONS.
UM, SOME OTHER STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF, OF OUR, OUR SYSTEM AND SPECIFICALLY THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT RESULTING FROM OUR SYSTEM.
UM, WE'VE DONE THESE MARKET VALUE STUDIES AND THIS JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, SHOWS PLANO AND YOU SEE, UM, THE RED S SPIKIES AROUND, UM, DOWNTOWN PLANO THAT'S CATALYZED BY THE DOWNTOWN STATION THERE AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRED BECAUSE OF THAT.
UM, BUT MORE RECENTLY, THIS IS ANOTHER LOOK AT IT, UM, MORE, AND THIS IS IN THE APPENDIX IF YOU WANNA REFER TO IT.
UM, WE JUST, THE BEGINNING OF THIS, SHE COMMISSIONED OUR GENERAL PLANNING CONSULTANT TO, TO REALLY TRY AND HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE TELL THAT STORY OF ECONOMIC IMPACT BEYOND THE UNT STUDIES, WHICH IS LIMITED TO OUR LIGHT RAIL STATIONS.
SO OF COURSE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE OUR BUS FACILITIES OR OUR, OUR COMMUTER RAIL STATIONS.
AND THEY DID COME, UM, COME BACK WITH SOME PRETTY COMPELLING FACTS.
SO THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH LIVING NEAR A DART STATION REDUCES THE HOUSEHOLD COSTS.
SO YOU SEE IN ROULETTE, FOR EXAMPLE, ALMOST, UM, TWICE, UM, HOUSEHOLD, UM, SAVINGS FOR THOSE WHO LIVE NEAR TRANSIT NEAR THE STATION AS OPPOSED TO THE CITYWIDE AVERAGE.
AND THEN ANOTHER COMPELLING STORY HERE IS THE, THOSE WHO ARE LIVING NEAR TRAIN STATIONS IS GROWING.
THE HOUSEHOLDS NEAR TRAIN STATIONS IS GROWING AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
SO YOU SEE ADDISON AS AN EXAMPLE, 123% INCREASE FOR THOSE WITHIN THAT STATION AREA AS OPPOSED TO THE 32% INCREASE ACROSS THE TOWN AS A WHOLE.
SO THAT TELLS US THAT DART'S DOING ITS JOB WELL TO PROVIDE TRANSIT SERVICES.
THE CITY'S DOING A GOOD JOB IN PLANNING FOR THAT.
THE INDIVIDUALS ARE MAKING THE DECISION TO LIVE NEAR, UM, TRANSIT FACILITIES AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTING THAT DESIRE.
SO, UM, THAT TELLS SOME GOOD STORIES.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UM, THE, THE VALUE OF REPLACING PARKING, SURFACE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITH LEVERAGING TRANSITS WHO HAVE LESS PARKING, WHICH HAS BEEN A BIG FOCUS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UM, AT THE BUCKNER STATION, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND, AND HOW WE CAN TRANSLATE THE, THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS INTO, INTO MORE TAXABLE VALUES.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE, THE MATERIALS, SO TO SPEAK, JUST MORE ON A LARGE SCALE VISION THAT HAVE, UM, BEEN, UM, THAT WE'VE PRODUCED.
AND THEN, UM, OUR COMMS TEAM IS WORKING TO, UM, PROMULGATE THOSE AND, AND MARKET THEM BETTER.
UM, BUT ON A MORE INDIVIDUALIZED BASIS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AT REALLY TELLING THE STORY ON A SITE SPECIFIC BASIS, UM, AND REALLY GETTING THAT COMPELLING INFORMATION OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA REMIND OUR MEMBERS THAT RIDERSHIP IS, IS CERTAINLY ONE COMPONENT, UH, OF, OF TRANSIT, BUT, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT IS, IS CERTAINLY A STORY THAT WE ALL NEED TO EVANGELIZE, UH, BROADLY BECAUSE THIS IS ONE HECK OF A STORY.
ALRIGHT, MR. MCGREGOR, TWO MINUTES.
UM, I, I'D LIKE TO PICK UP ON WHAT, UH, ROY JUST TALKED ABOUT, BUT FROM THE OTHER, FROM ANOTHER ANGLE, WHICH IS WE'VE HEARD FROM MEMBERS, I'VE HEARD OVER TIME, UH, BOTH FROM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND SOMETIMES FROM, UH, CITY OFFICIALS BOTH IN IRVING AND IN PLANO, THAT THEY DESCRIBED THE TODS AS, AND, UM, MY WORDS HERE, BUT AS FAILURES, UH, IS NOT RESULTING IN THE ECONOMIC, UH, IMPACT THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE.
UH, I, I REMEMBER IN AN EARLY CALL WITH MICHAEL MOORES, IT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME, BUT, UH, SOMEONE IN PLANO SAID, OH, WE HAVE THE BIGGEST ONE TOD.
AND IT, IT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS FAILURE.
AND, UM, A MEMBER ON THIS BOARD ABOUT IRVING HAS ALSO SAID THAT HE, THAT THEY JUST DON'T WORK OR THEY FAIL.
AND I, I DON'T WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? 'CAUSE I DON'T, I I
UH, WHEN I LOOK AT IT VISUALLY, I CAN BRING, I SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE STATION.
SO DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO OR, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS CORRELATING DEVELOPMENT WITH RIDERSHIP.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TOO, THAT NECESSARILY GO HAND IN HAND.
WE WANT THEM TO GO HAND IN HAND.
BUT IT, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.
UM, AND I THINK THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS DESCRIBING 2D AS BE THAT SPRAWL BEYOND.
AND, AND THIS IS REALLY IRVING'S, UH, KIND OF I THINK A PROBLEM THAT IRVING HAS THAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING 2D AS BEYOND WHAT'S WALKABLE TO THE STATION.
AND SO PEOPLE AREN'T WALKING IT, AND IT'S NOT DESIGNED IN A WAY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO WALK AND CAPITALIZE ON THAT TRANSIT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM.
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SO IT'S A REALLY, UM, DESIGN IS SO IMPORTANT IN AN EFFECTIVE TOD THAT ACTUALLY DRIVES RIDERSHIP, UM, AND REALLY MAKES A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT.SO, SO, AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT IN IRVING, IS THAT, UM, IS THAT IRVING CITY'S JOB TO MAKE THAT WORK? OR IS IT DART'S JOB TO MAKE IT WORK? OR IS IT A, YOU KNOW, JOINT EFFORT? IT'S, IT'S JOINT AND THERE IT CAN BE AN EITHER, EITHER OF US FAILING TO DO OUR JOB AND IT DOESN'T WORK.
UM, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LAND USE AUTHORITY AND IT'S THE CITY'S PREROGATIVE TO PLAN AND INCENTIVIZE AND PERMIT THESE PROJECTS.
UM, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS START STAFF TO BE AT THE TABLE AND TO, UM, DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AT THE TABLE AND TO GIVE GOOD GUIDANCE AND BE GOOD PARTNERS TO ENCOURAGE TO OD THAT, UM, THAT REALLY IS EFFECTIVE.
BUT ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY AND YOU SAY, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU DID X, IT'S THEIR DECISION WHETHER TO DO X OR DO Y AND THEN THE RESULTING TRAFFIC OR RIDERSHIP IS A RESULT OF THAT DECISION AS OPPOSED TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHAT ELSE? UH, YOU PUT ME ON FOR THREE, JUST A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
UM, AS IT WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER, UH, WE DID HAVE OUR, I GUESS THIRD OR FOURTH MAYBE MEETING WITH, UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND I WANT TO JUST THANK, UM, OUR DEVELOPMENT AND IT WAS VERY INTUITIVE TO, TO RENAME THE COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT AND INNOVATION.
UM, INNOVATION IS NOT JUST COOL AND NEW EXCITING TECHNOLOGICALLY THINGS, BUT THIS IS INNOVATION IN MY OPINION AS WELL TOO.
AND SO, UH, PATRICK'S BEEN LEADING THAT EFFORT, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THE BOARD, UM, AND AS WELL AS OUR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR, UH, BRENT RUBIN.
UM, AS WE SAW, I THINK THERE WERE SIX SITES IN DALLAS IN PARTICULAR ON PAGE 12.
AND THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS TO MOVE THEM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE DOING OUR PART AS BEST AS WE CAN TO, UH, FIGURE OUT WHERE THE RED TAPE AND THE BUREAUCRACY LANDS, UH, BETWEEN BOTH AGENCIES AND CUT IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE TO GET THEM DONE TO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE BY, UM, CHAIR LOPEZ EARLIER.
I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT A COUPLE OF KIND OF DISPLAYS OR CHARTS, UM, START BEING INCORPORATED INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
AND IT'S PROBABLY A YEAR OR SO IN ADVANCE, BUT FORWARD LOOKING TO IT.
UM, NUMBER ONE ON, ON ALL THESE TURS THAT WE'RE GONNA START SETTING UP, UH, PER TUR PER TURS ZONE.
UM, WHAT IS THE FOR REALLY FOR US AT DART, THE LOST REVENUE YEAR OVER YEAR, THAT THAT'S GOING BACK INTO THESE CITIES COFFERS, UH, FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AND WHICH TURNS BACK FOR US AS WELL, BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS LOST REVENUE FOR US FOR WHATEVER THE DEFINED PERIOD OF TIME IS.
SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, BUT ALSO MORE, MOST SPECIFICALLY TO THE ZONE ITSELF.
UM, WHAT ARE THE SALES TAX INCREASES AND THE VALOR TAX INCREASES OVER, UM, THE, THE CEILING THAT'S PUT IN PLACE OR THE CAP THAT'S PUT, OR THE FLOOR, I GUESS AT THAT POINT THAT'S PUT IN PLACE? UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE $18.1 BILLION FROM UNT IS IT THE GREAT STUDIES.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT AGREE WITH THEM, BUT I THINK ON THESE ZONES THAT WE'RE SETTING UP IN PARTICULAR WHERE WE'RE GEOGRAPHICALLY DEFINING WHAT THEY ARE, THE BOUNDARIES OF THEM, UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY DEFINE WHAT THE SUCCESS OF THOSE ARE.
AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO TO ONE OF THE POINTS AS WELL, UH, LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE RIDERSHIP INCREASES OR TRENDS PER THESE TOD SITES.
AND SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, AND AGAIN, NOT PROBABLY YOUR NEXT ONE, BUT AFTER, YOU KNOW, BUCKNER IS BUILT OUT AND, AND A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER ONES THAT WE START TRACKING AND MONITORING, UM, WHAT ARE THE INCREASES IN SALES TAXES OR THE, WHAT ARE THE GENERATIONS OF SALES TAXES IN THESE ZONES? 'CAUSE THERE WAS NOT ANY BEFORE.
WHAT ARE THE INCREASE IN AVALOR TAXES, UH, COLLECTED AND THEN FOR TOUR ZONES IN PARTICULAR, WHAT ARE THE LOSS REVENUES FOR THEM AND THEN WHAT ARE THE RIDERSHIP INCREASES PER STATIONS? AND SO, UM, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE CAN SEE THAT, UM, BEING GENERATED BASED UPON THESE TOD SUCCESSES.
ALRIGHT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE THAT ITEM.
IT IS NOW 6:07 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.