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          [2. Items of Interest ]
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          UH, DART WILL USE THE FUNDS TOWARD THE REPLACEMENT OF 53 LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES THAT WERE PURCHASED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. 
          UH, WE WERE ONE OF ONLY THREE AGENCIES, UH, WHO, UH, WERE RECIPIENTS FOR THAT. 
          I BELIEVE THE OTHER TWO WERE IN THE EAST, IN, IN THE PENNSYLVANIA AREA. 
          UH, AND WE ACTUALLY GOT, UH, 40 SOME PERCENT OF THAT. 
          SO ACTUALLY IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO COMMAND, IN PARTICULAR, A CAPITAL GRANTS TEAM WHO OBVIOUSLY WERE VERY DILIGENT IN PURSUING IT AND SUCCESSFUL IN THE OUTCOME. 
          SO, THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OPERATIONS EMPLOYEES OF THE MONTH. 
          UH, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE SEVERAL OF OUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST. 
          FROM OPERATIONS, SLO AGUILAR, UH, SERVICER, UH, NRV MAINTENANCE SUPPORT, UH, BAY HILU BOOGA, UH, OPERATOR, NORTHWEST BUS OPERATIONS. 
          DWAYNE GOUT, UH, OPERATOR, EAST DALLAS BUS OPERATIONS, DEVONA, LEAKY CONTRACT COMPLIANCE. 
          FIELD SUPERVISOR, MOBILITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES. 
          MICHAEL LUGA, MECHANIC CENTRAL SUPPORT VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. 
          ROCCHI, A ROCK OPERATOR, SOUTH OAK CLIFF BUS OPERATIONS. 
          FRANCISCO MORENO, JUNIOR MECHANIC, EAST DALLAS BUS OPERATIONS. 
          VEHICLE, UH, MAINTENANCE. 
          UH, THOMAS PAYNE MECHANIC, SOUTH OAK CLIFF BUS OPERATIONS VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, QUIS B ROBINSON MECHANIC, BODY SUPPORT, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. 
          YESINIA RODRIGUEZ SERVICER, NORTHWEST BUS OPERATIONS, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND ROOSEVELT WALKER. 
          NORTHWEST RAIL OPERATIONS, RAIL FLEET MAINTENANCE. 
          I THINK, UH, WE CAN ALL ASSUME THAT THESE PEOPLE DID SPECIAL WORK THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUPPORTING OUR FIFA OPERATIONS. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, OUR CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM AS OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES OF THE MONTH. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE CEO ITEMS OF INTEREST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. CEO. 
          ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? MR. SOFFER? MAYOR SOFFER. 
          UM, DAVID, COULD YOU AT SOME POINT JUST KIND OF LET US KNOW ABOUT THE CAPITAL GRANT TEAM, BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST GOT 25 MILLION FOR THE PLATFORMS AS WELL. 
          SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE, THESE PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE LOOKING AT $95 MILLION THAT HAVE COME FROM THIS GRANT TEAM. 
          SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, TALK, UH, KNOWING WHO THAT WAS, AND I'M SURE THEY WORK WITH OUR LOBBYING TEAM IN, IN, UH, AUSTIN OR IN, UH, UH, THE CAPITAL, UH, IN WASHINGTON. 
          SO I SEE TREY WALKER, UH, OUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S LISTENING TO THAT, UH, REQUEST, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE COME BACK. 
          UH, AND I'D ASKED, UH, TWO QUESTIONS. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY, BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS JAMIE ADELSON A ABOUT, UH, UH, HOW WE'RE INCORPORATING THAT INTO OUR FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          SHOULD BE PREPARED TO TALK TO THAT, BUT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT COLLECTION OF FUNDING, UH, COMMITMENT. 
          NOW, IT COMES OVER A FEW YEARS. 
          IT DOESN'T ARRIVE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S WELCOME. 
          AND IT, IT'S, UH, IT'S GONNA BE APPLIED TO GOOD USE AND, UH, WE'LL BRING, COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHO THE TEAM OR ITEMIZATION, WHO THE TEAM WAS, WHO WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          MS. RAUS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY, UM, ALSO THANK YOU TO ALL THE OUTSTANDING, UM, DARN EMPLOYEES OF THE MONTH, BUT ESPECIALLY TO OUR CAPITAL GRANTS, UH, LEADERSHIP TEAM, UM, FROM OUR INTERIM CEO, UM, DAVID LEININGER TO OUR PRIOR CEO NADINE LEE, GIVEN THE, UM, THE LANDSCAPE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT, UH, FEDERAL FUNDING, THIS IS AN AMAZING FEAT, SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. 
          UM, ALSO A REMINDER TO EVERYONE, WE HAVE THE, UM, APTA ANNUAL MEETING COMING UP AT THE END OF, UH, THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER. 
          THIS IS AN EXPO YEAR, WHICH HAPPENS ONLY ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS, WHERE YOU WILL ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THE, UM, FULL SIZE, UH, LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES THAT PERHAPS THAT WE COULD BE LOOKING AT FOR THAT $17 MILLION, UH, GRANT MONEY, UM, WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY KICK THE WHEELS AND TIRES. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR NEWEST, UH, DIRECTOR FROM THE CITIES OF PLANO AND FARMERS BRANCH, MR. RICHARD GRADY. 
          HE'S A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER IN PLANO AS WELL. 
          UM, HE WILL BE ALSO REPLACING FORMER BOARD MEMBER NATHAN BARBERA ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND HAS ALREADY GOTTEN STRAIGHT SWIFT TO WORK. 
          UM, 
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I WAS TOLD TO MAKE THIS ITEMS OF INTEREST ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, WHICH IS TO THANK OUR HR TEAM, OUR IT TEAM, AND OUR POLICE TEAM FOR ONBOARDING, UH, MR. GRADY IN WHAT WAS TOLD TO BE TWO HOURS SO THAT HE COULD BE REPRESENTED HERE AT THIS, AT THIS MEETING. 
          AND SO THANK YOU ALL THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. 
          AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, OBVIOUSLY YESTERDAY WAS LABOR DAY. 
          JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE, UM, ALL OF THE HARD EMPLOY HARDWORKING EMPLOYEES HERE AT DART. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY LABOR DAY WAS BROUGHT TO US BY, UH, THE UNION MEMBERS OVER A CENTURY AGO, AND TO THANK OUR A TU UNION THAT WORKS ON BEHALF OF US DAILY. 
          WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL ITEMS OF INTEREST, WE'LL MOVE. 
          UM, MS. MS. GARCIA? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT MEETING THEN, BUT, UH, NINE 11 AND THE 25 YEARS, UM, EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING, THAT HAS HAPPENED. 
          I, IT JUST, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN 25 YEARS, BUT I JUST WANNA PUBLICLY, UH, MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY. 
          THANK YOU SERVICE ON THURSDAY, BECAUSE RECOGNIZE OUR CEO FOR ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WAS ADVISED THIS MORNING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE, UH, ADJUSTMENT THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE REPUBLICAN, UH, MEETING THAT'S HERE ON, ON, UH, TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY. 
          WE ARE PASSING, UH, AND NOT STOPPING AT THE VICTORY STATION. 
          UH, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, ON THURSDAY, UH, WE WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO, UH, RUN LIGHT RAIL OR BUS, UH, IN DOWNTOWN, UH, AT ST. 
          PAUL, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, AT, UH, PEARL, UH, FROM EIGHT 30 UNTIL NOON. 
          UH, SO I WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THAT WE'LL BE NOTIFYING A RIDERSHIP AND WE'LL HAVE TO ESTABLISH, UH, BUS BRIDGES AT CITY PLACE, AND WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER GUIDELINES ON HOW THAT, BUT WE CANNOT, UH, RUN EQUIPMENT THROUGH THE TRAINS CANNOT PASS, UH, THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THEY'LL HAVE TO STOP AT CITY LINE ON, UH, SEA PLACE ON THE NORTH, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO STOP THE WEST END ON THE, UH, SOUTH, UH, AND OR THE WEST. 
          UH, AND THEN THAT'S EIGHT 30 UNTIL NOON ON THURSDAY. 
          WE'LL NOTIFY THE CUSTOMERS, UH, FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE. 
          OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? ITEMS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, 
          [3. Public Comments – Agenda Item Specific  ]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          WE HAVE, UM, ONE ON AGENDAS, AGENDA ITEMS SPECIFIC, MR. GENERAL COUNSEL, WHICH PLEASE READ OUR RULES, UH, TO BEGINNING OF EACH, UH, COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD MEETING TIME IS ALLOCATED FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. 
          THE WHOLE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, ADDITIONAL TIME FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE END OF THE MEETING. 
          ALL SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST IN PERSON OR ONLINE PRIOR TO SPEAKING. 
          SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH OUR FORMS ARE RECEIVED. 
          UH, FORMS THAT DO NOT SPECIFY AN AGENDA ITEM WILL BE TREATED, UH, AS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL, YOUR NAME IS CALLED. 
          PLEASE, UH, STEP TO THE PODIUM AND, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE, THE, UH, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE SPEAKERS WHO NEED AND INTERPRETER MAY HAVE AT LEAST, UH, SIX MINUTES TO ENSURE THAT ALL SPEAKERS RECEIVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. 
          WE NOT ON THE PODIUM WILL INDICATE THAT YOU CAN BEGIN. 
          THE YELLOW LIGHT INDICATES YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE REMAINING. 
          AND THE RED LIGHT INDICATES THAT YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED. 
          SPEAKERS MUST REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. 
          BOARD MEMBERS WILL NOT ASK QUESTIONS, OFFER THEIR OWN COMMENTS OR, OR OTHERWISE INTERACT WITH SPEAKERS DURING THE COMMENT. 
          BOARD. 
          MEMBERS CANNOT RESPOND TO PERSONNEL MATTERS DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THEREFORE, EMPLOYEES SHOULD DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR SUPERVISOR, CHAIN OF COMMAND OR CONTACT HUMAN RESOURCES. 
          THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR THEY'RE EXPRESSING IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. 
          A COPY OF THE FULL PUBLIC COMMENT GUIDELINES IS POSTED IN THE LOBBY AND, AND ON A D.ORG WEBSITE. 
          THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. 
          OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS DAVE BRADY SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 21. 
          OKAY, JUST, JUST ONE SECOND. 
          SOMEONE'S GONNA COME ASSIST YOU TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          REGRETFULLY, I WAS PROMPTED TO SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ALL ON YOUR AGENDA NOW, AND THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT TOOK PLACE ON THE ORANGE LINE BETWEEN PARK LANE AND AKRON JUST TODAY, ON THE WAY TO THIS MEETING, 
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A HOMELESS MAN GOT INTO A HASSLE WITH ONE OF OUR OTHER RIDERS. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF FOUL MOUTHING AND FINGER POINTING IN THE PROCESS, AND WE'RE LUCKY THAT THERE WERE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER RIDERS ON THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME, BUT AT LEAST THOSE WHO WERE THERE WERE ABLE TO CALM THE PEOPLE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF EFFORT TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN FACED WITH ON OUR TRAINS, BUT I HAVE TO STRESS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN RELATION TO THAT IS THE CLUTTER THAT THEY CREATE ON THE SEA CARS OF OUR RAIL TRAINS, ALL OF THEIR PARAPHERNALIA AND THINGS THAT THEY BRING ARE SAFETY HAZARDS IN THE AISLES OF MANY OF OUR TRAINS. 
          AND THERE ARE PROBLEM FOR SCARING SOME OF OUR REGULAR RIDER AWAY BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. 
          THESE INDIVIDUALS SIMPLY HAVE GOT TO BE DEALT WITH MORE EFFECTIVELY THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AT THIS TIME. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHER PLANS AND IDEAS IN MIND TO TRY TO DO IT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SIMPLY REQUIRES FULL FORCE. 
          THERE BEEN CIRCUMSTANCES ON MANY OCCASIONS THAT I HAVE RIDDEN. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN ONE HOMELESS PERSON CLUTTERING UP THE CCAR SECTION IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE MOBILITY IMPAIRED AND BIKE RIDERS ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS, ESPECIALLY IN SINGLE CAR TRAINS. 
          JUST LAST WEEKEND, I WITNESSED A SITUATION IN WHICH THERE WERE TWO HOMELESS PERSONS PREVENTING THREE WHEELCHAIRS FROM GETTING ON THE BLUE LINE TRIP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. 
          SO I JUST HAVE TO PLEAD WITH YOU, WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THIS A LOT HARDER THAN WE HAVE HERE BEFORE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS SPECIFIC. 
          WE 
          [Consent Items]
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE. 
          IS THERE A BOARD MEMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PULL IN ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? MR. ELLI? THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM SIX. 
          ITEM SIX. 
          ANYONE ELSE? UM, THE, THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL CONSIST OF ITEMS FOUR THROUGH FIVE AND SIX THROUGH, I'M SORRY, FOUR THROUGH FIVE AND SEVEN THROUGH NINE. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CHAIR SLAGEL, SECONDED BY MR. WEST. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE ON YOUR MACHINE. 
          12 IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO IN OPPOSITION. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          WE'LL 
          [6. Approval of Contract for Freight Transportation Services  ]
TAKE UP SIX INDIVIDUALLY. 
          MS. ALMAN? GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          JAMIE EDELMAN, EVP AND CFO. 
          DID YOU WANT THE PRESENTATION, SIR? DID YOU JUST HAVE A QUESTION? UH, JUST A QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO IN ITEM SIX, I NOTICED THAT, UH, THERE WAS LANGUAGE THAT SAID THIS PROJECT WAS IDENTIFIED TO BE SET ASIDE FOR THE PARTICIPATION OF ONLY CERTIFIED SMALL BUSINESSES UNDER DARTS SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE PROGRAM IN JANUARY, 2026. 
          AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, THAT ONLY SBE WERE ALLOWED TO BID ON THIS AND, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT CERTIFIED SPEES WERE ENTIRELY EXCLUDED FROM THE PROCESS? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          FOR, UH, SET ASIDE, YES. 
          OKAY, GOTCHA. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S HOW I WAS READING THAT. 
          SO A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE SBE GOALS, WHICH, WHICH MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, THIS WAS THE ONLY ONE I SAW THAT HAD A, A, A SET ASIDE WHERE OTHER BUSINESSES COULD NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD NOT BID ON IT. 
          AND SO I WAS CURIOUS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WHY THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF, OF LIMITING THE BIDDING ONLY TO SPEES AND NOT NOT LETTING SBS BID ALONGSIDE, UH, LARGER BUSINESSES. 
          SURE. 
          WE DO THIS FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT IT'S KIND OF FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. 
          AND IT'S REALLY WHEN, UH, THE VENDOR MANAGEMENT TEAM IDENTIFIES A MARKET WHERE WE THINK THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CAN REALLY SATISFY THE NEED OF THIS, THE PARTICULAR CONTRACT AND OR SOLICITATION. 
          AND SO USUALLY WHAT'LL HAPPEN IF WE DO THIS, WE'LL TRY WITH A SMALL BUSINESS SET ASIDE, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN WE WILL RES SOLICIT WITHOUT THE SMALL BUSINESS SET ASIDE. 
          OKAY. 
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GOTCHA. 
          AND SO I GUESS WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LOWER COST VENDOR THAT'S NOT AN SBE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, UH, BASED ON THIS SOLICITATION? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION, JAMIE. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO I WILL SAY I'M, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF, AND I LOVE THE HEART BEHIND, UH, WANTING TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES AND PROMOTE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ECOSYSTEM OF, OF DART VENDORS. 
          UM, BUT DART'S MISSION IS TO DELIVER TRANSIT SERVICES, AND I THINK WE NEED TO EXECUTE ON THAT AT THE, IN THE MOST COST EFFICIENT AND HIGHEST QUALITY WAY POSSIBLE. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE ALSO HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS. 
          UH, SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN SBE GOAL IS ONE THING, BUT WHEN WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE DON'T EVEN LET, UM, NON S B'S BID ON A CERTAIN CONTRACT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EXTRA IT'S COSTING TO GO WITH THE SBE VERSUS THE NON SBE, UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY A LARGER BUSINESS. 
          AND CERTAINLY IN AN ERA THAT WILL DEMAND SOME MEASURE OF AUSTERITY TO EFFICIENTLY DELIVER TRANSIT SERVICES. 
          I THINK WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR THE LOWEST COST AT THE HIGHEST QUALITY. 
          SO ACCORDINGLY, UH, I MOVE THAT WE DENY THIS ITEM AND REBID IT WITH THE BIDDING BEING OPEN TO BOTH SBE AND NON SBE BUSINESSES. 
          AND IF THE PRICING IS SIMILAR, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OKAY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE PREFERENCE OF GOING WITH AN SBE. 
          UH, WE JUST DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE PAYING TWICE AS MUCH, THREE TIMES AS MUCH OR, OR MAYBE JUST 1% MORE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT KNOWING THAT I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN VOTE ON THIS, UH, TO APPROVE IT TODAY. 
          SO I'LL MOVE TO DENY. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          SO MOVED. 
          AND SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MS. WONG KRAUS? THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, IS THERE A, UM, TIME DEADLINE FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT THAT IF WE DON'T, UM, APPROVE IT THAT, UM, NEGATIVE THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN? SURE. 
          SO THIS CONTRACT IS SPECIFICALLY TO, TO MOVE END TO SHIP. 
          LARGE COMPONENTS OF OUR VEHICLES ARE ROLLING STOCK FOR REPAIR, FOR RETOOLING, FOR REMANUFACTURING, WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING TO GET A CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR THIS. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY TRIED TO SOLICIT THIS MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          UM, AND IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A REAL ATTRACTIVE CONTRACT, UM, FOR, UH, BIDDERS OUT THERE. 
          SO, UM, THIS LAST ONE, WE DID GET TWO SUCCESSFUL, UH, PROPOSALS, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. 
          IF WE ARE NOT TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE, THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SMALLER PURCHASE ORDERS AS KIND OF, UH, STOP GAP. 
          STOP GAP. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE WORD. 
          UM, IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR, OUR WORK DONE AS WE NEED TO HAVE DONE, WILL THAT BE MORE EXPENSIVE? IT COULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I, I DEFINITELY AM, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF A SMALL BUSINESS, UM, UH, UH, PREFERENCE, UH, I GUESS, UM, WHEN WE CAN, UM, FOR THIS ONE, I, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE, THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, AND I DON'T WANNA MAKE SURE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING MORE THAN WE SHOULD. 
          MAYBE WE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, PROCUREMENT IN THIS NICHE GOING FORWARD AND, UM, MAYBE ADD EXTRA POINTS FOR, UM, SMALL BUSINESS OR, UM, I THINK WE CAN'T DO LOCAL PREFERENCE, CAN WE, JEAN? NO, THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER FROM A FEDERAL STANDPOINT, BUT MAYBE GOING FORWARD FOR THAT. 
          I MEAN, I CERTAINLY CAN SUPPORT THIS, UM, BUT I THINK SOME, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND, UH, MR. ELLIS AND MR. ENOCH'S, UM, POINT AND MAYBE TAKING A LOOK AT HOW BEST TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE MIGHT, UM, UH, AND WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          ON A CON CONTRACT LIKE THIS MOVING FORWARD, IT, UM, SETTING A GOAL ON IT, IT'S EITHER KIND OF, IT'S GOING TO BE AN SPE THAT PROVIDES ALL THE SERVICE OR NOT, RIGHT? TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT'S LIKE MULTIPLE COMPONENTS, UM, UH, AN AREA WHERE WE OFTEN GET SPE PARTICIPATION IS ON THE FREIGHT AND THE MOVEMENT OF THE GOODS, AND THEN THE REST OF THE WORK IS COMPLETED BY A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR. 
          SO THE FREIGHT MOVEMENT IS THE SUB, WHICH IS WHY WE IDENTIFIED HERE THAT WE KNEW WE COULD GET AN SBE TO PERFORM THE CONTRACT. 
          WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME OUT THERE. 
          UM, BUT IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, THEN UH, WE CAN LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE MEANS. 
          SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT WILL LIKELY BE THE SPE FIRM THAT IS PROVIDING THE SERVICE OR A NON SPE PARTICIPATION AT ALL. 
          AND WHAT ELSE? YES, MR. ENOCH? THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, WHAT ARE THE PROCESSES THAT THE STAFF IDENTIFIES, UH, SBE PARTICIPATION ONLY? I MEAN, SOMEONE DECIDED THAT THIS WOULD BE SBE, WHO DECIDED THAT? AND WHAT POLICIES ARE WE FOLLOWING TO DO THAT? CORRECT. 
          SO THE, UM, IT GOES THROUGH OUR VENDOR MANAGEMENT TEAM LED BY GABE BELTRAN AS OUR A DP OF VENDOR MANAGEMENT. 
          AND, UM, THEY DO, UM, MARKET ANALYSIS. 
          SO THEY'LL LOOK AT 
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PAST SOLICITATIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS AREA, AND THEN ALSO DO KIND OF LIKE A RESEARCH OF WHO WE HAVE AS ELIGIBLE CONTRACTORS AND OR SUBCONTRACTORS THROUGH BONFIRE, WHICH IS OUR, UH, SUPPLIER, SUPPLIER PORTAL, EXCUSE ME. 
          AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A MARKET AVAILABLE FOR SBE ONLY TO PERFORM THIS WORK. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO GABE DECIDES BASED ON HIS DATA DATABASE, WHERE SBE ONLY SHOULD BE SOLICITED? CORRECT. 
          BASED ON THE, THE MARKET AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE, THE CONTRACTORS AND OR CONTRACTORS AVAILABLE. 
          I UNDERSTAND SBE MIGHT BE PREVALENT IN THE MARKET. 
          THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN NOT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ZERO NON SBE, BUT WE HAVE DECIDED THAT ONLY AN SBE CAN BE A, COULD BE SOLICITED. 
          WHY IS IT THAT WE ONLY CHOOSE IN THOSE SITUATIONS? SBE IS SIMPLY JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AN SBE THAT DOESN'T. 
          WHY DO WE, WHY DO WE RESTRICT NON SBE FROM THOSE SOLICITATIONS? LIKE I SAID, WE DO MAYBE TWO OR THREE A YEAR OF A COMPLETE SETA ASIDE, WHERE IT'S ONLY SBE. 
          WHY? IT, IT IS COMPLETELY BASED ON THE SERVICE THAT WE ARE SOLICITING AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A MARKET, THERE IS A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF POTENTIAL BIDDERS AVAILABLE. 
          WHAT ADVANTAGE IS IT TO US? I I IF WE TO RESTRICT SB I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          SO DART HAS AN SBE PROGRAM, RIGHT? UM, WE HAVE OUR DBE E PROGRAM AND WE ARE TRYING TO SPUR UTILIZATION OF SBE FIRMS OKAY. 
          FOR THE AGENCY. 
          SO, SO POLITICALLY SPEAKING, YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE BOARD'S DIRECT DIRECTION TO INCREASE SBE PARTICIPATION AND PART OF THAT PROCESS IS YOU CHOOSE THOSE WE'RE PROBABLY AN S B'S GONNA DO IT AND YOU JUST RESTRICT IT. 
          S SBS, AM I RIGHT ON THAT? WE ARE CARRYING OUT YES. 
          THE DIRECTION TO HAVE A FULL PARTICIPATING SBE PROGRAM, UH, AT THIS ORGANIZATION. 
          AND THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO GAIN UTILIZATION OF SBE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE, THERE'S NOT A FINANCIAL REASON TO DO IT. 
          THERE IS SIMPLY THE BOARD'S POLICIES OR THE BOARD'S POLITICS HAVE DICTATED THAT AND THE HISTORIC USE OF SBE AS AN AGENCY? YES. 
          THANK YOU JAMIE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MS. RA'S? TWO MINUTES. 
          SO IS, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, AND I BELIEVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD AT THE BOARD ABOUT GROWING SMALL BUSINESSES INTO, UM, BIGGER BUSINESSES THAT CAN MAKE IT MORE COMPETITIVE AND IN THE END BE FINANCIALLY, UM, UH, BENEFICIAL TO DART BECAUSE THE MORE COMPETITORS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT YOU GIVE A, GET A SMALL BUSINESS FOOT IN THE DOOR. 
          SO DOWN THE ROAD THAT IT IS, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT HAS BEEN WHY I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THIS, IS TO INCREASE THE POOL OF VENDORS, WHICH EVENTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD WILL BENEFIT DART FINANCIALLY. 
          IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAS BEEN HAD AROUND THIS HORSESHOE? UM, IN MY NEARLY THREE YEARS HERE? I'D SAY THAT'S A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF PART OF THE GOAL OF THE SBE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS, IS THAT I THINK EVENTUALLY BY SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESS, WE GET A LARGER POOL OF VENDORS THAT IN THE FUTURE WILL FINANCIALLY BENEFIT DART. 
          THE MORE COMPETITIVE, UH, NUMBER, UM, THE MORE COMPETITIVE, UM, OUR PROCUREMENT IS FOR, UM, MULTIPLE VENDORS, THE BETTER IT IS FOR DART. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. 
          JUST, IS THERE ANY TWO MINUTES? YEAH, JUST IN RESPONSE, MICHELLE? I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BROADENING THE POOL. 
          I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RESTRICTING THE POOL. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOW RESTRICTED IT. 
          NOBODY CAN DO IT UNLESS YOU'RE A CERTIFIED SBE. 
          THAT'S, IN MY JUDGMENT, THAT'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WE OUGHT TO PAY ATTENTION TO MAXIMIZING THE DOLLARS FOR TRANSPORTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WHAT ELSE, MS. GARCIA? THREE MINUTES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, WE HAVE A VERY STRONG SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE PROGRAM HERE AT DART AND HAVE FOR, UM, AT LEAST 15 OR 20 YEARS, MAYBE MORE. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I CAN SAY THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE A DART SMALL BUSINESS ACADEMY AS WELL, AND WE ENCOURAGE THESE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE AN MWBE PROGRAM, AND THOSE COMPANIES NOW HAVE TO BE BECOME CERTIFIED AS A SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. 
          AND SO THAT IS JUST LIVING, UH, OPENING THAT, THAT PLAYING FIELD FOR THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE QUALIFIED AND HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID. 
          SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS SBE. 
          MR. ELLI TWO MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          JUST, JUST A, A QUICK COMMENT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS CASE THAT DIRECTOR JUAN KRAUS IS MAKING FOR, UH, HAVING AN SBE PROGRAM. 
          AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I, I, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IF WE REVISIT THAT, I'D LOVE TO SEE EMPIRICAL DATA ON WHETHER THAT'S ACTUALLY LEADING TO A, A LARGER VENDOR ECOSYSTEM FOR 
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DART AND, AND ACTUALLY LEADING TO THOSE, UH, BENEFITS DOWN THE LINE. 
          BUT FOR ME TODAY, THAT QUESTION IS NOT EVEN RELEVANT BECAUSE THIS ONE, WE DIDN'T JUST HAVE AN SBE GOAL OR, OR AN SBE PREFERENCE, BUT WE EXCLUDED EVERYONE WHO'S NOT AN SBE. 
          AND SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A CASE WHERE IT WOULD COST A LARGE BUSINESS 500,000 TO DO THIS. 
          AND AN SBE IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M A SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S GONNA BE 501,000. 
          THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING, BUT I MEAN, IT, IT COULD BE THAT THIS WOULD BE 200,000 FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR A LARGE BUSINESS AND 500,000 FOR A SMALL BUSINESS. 
          AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THOSE IT IS. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, TODAY, I, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I'D KEEP MY MIND OPEN ABOUT THE QUESTION OF DO CAN WE EVER GO WITH A SLIGHTLY HIGHER PRICE SMALL BUSINESS TO TRY TO GROW THE VENDOR ECOSYSTEM IF THERE'S REALLY A FUTURE BENEFIT TO DART'S BOTTOM LINE IN DOING THAT. 
          BUT TODAY, THAT'S TO ME THAT THE ISSUE IS NOT EVEN BEFORE US BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EXTRA WE'RE PAYING BECAUSE WE TOTALLY EXCLUDED EVERY BUSINESS THAT IS NOT AN SBE FROM THIS BIDDING PROCESS. 
          I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER DO THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE PRICE FOR THE SBE, HERE'S THE PRICE FOR THE NON SBE. 
          IS THERE REALLY A BUSINESS CASE TO MAKE FOR THE BENEFIT TO DART PUT MY, PUTTING MY CARDS ON THE TABLE, I'M PROBABLY ALWAYS GONNA GO WITH THE LOWEST PRICE. 
          BUT I MEAN, AT LEAST THEN WE WOULD KNOW THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING AND, AND WHAT IT COSTS US TO TRY TO GROW OUR VENDOR ECOSYSTEM. 
          SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL REITERATE MY MOTION TO, UH, TO DENY AND REBID AND WHAT ELSE YOU PUT ME ON FOR THREE. 
          UM, FULL DISCLOSURE, OBVIOUSLY I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. 
          I HAVE MWBE CERTIFICATION, A STATE HUB CERTIFICATION. 
          I RECEIVED AN EMAIL DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR FROM THE STATE THAT SAID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS, BUT YOU'RE NO LONGER RECOGNIZED BY, BY OUR AGENCY. 
          UM, BUT FOR EVEN FOR ME, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          I WANNA GO BACK TO SOMETHING I HEARD AND I HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS. 
          UM, THE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY WAS PUT OUT BID MULTIPLE TIMES PREVIOUSLY? YES, WE HAVE TRIED TO SOLICIT, SOLICIT FOR THIS BEFORE, YES. 
          AND WAS THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR SBE IN INCLUDED IN THAT, UM, SOLICITATION? I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. 
          SORRY, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT THE REQUIREMENT FOR SBE ONLY WAS NOT A PART OF THE PREVIOUS SOLICITATIONS, CORRECT? UM, I, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO HYPOTHETICALS, BUT, SO I WON'T EVEN ASK A QUESTION. 
          I'LL TELL YOU. 
          UM, AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, AS A MINORITY BUSINESS OWNER, WHEN YOU SEE THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES DON'T CREATE THE ADVANTAGE FOR YOU, YOU TYPICALLY DON'T PARTICIPATE IN WASTING YOUR TIME AND YOUR FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO BID ON IT. 
          SO IT'S ONE THING FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE CREATED A RESTRICTED PROGRAM THAT WE'VE NOW PRODUCED. 
          BUT I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DID OWN THOSE BUSINESSES SAW IT AS A WASTE OF TIME. 
          IF THEY KNEW THAT OTHER LARGER FIRMS COULD HAVE BIDDED ON THE PROCESS, THAT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THEIR SMALLER BUSINESSES IN IT. 
          AND IF SO, AND IF NOT, THEN THE, THE BIGGER BUSINESSES HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO PREVIOUSLY DO IT, WHICH THEY DID NOT DO IT. 
          SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO GO BACK OUT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA NET YOU THE SAME RESULT, OR IF NOT, THEN TWICE PREVIOUSLY HAS NOT RESULTED IN ANYTHING DIFFERENT. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, WHAT IS, UM, WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS ACTUAL CONTRACT ITSELF? HAVE WE EVER PUT THIS, I KNOW THE LAST TWO TIMES IT WAS SOLICITED IT, IT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONDENTS PREVIOUS TO THAT. 
          IS THIS, HAS THIS CONTRACT EVER BEEN FILLED IN ANY NATURE? WE'VE BEEN USING PURCHASE ORDERS, UH, FOR 50,000 WITH VARIOUS VENDORS FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO MEET OUR FREIGHT SHIPPING NEEDS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO EVEN AT MINIMUM, A-A-S-B-E ONLY DRIVEN RFP PROCESS WILL NET A FINANCIAL REDUCTION THAN THE PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING PREVIOUSLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND SOME SECURITY IN BEING ABLE TO MOVE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED MOVED TO GET IT REPAIRED AND OR REPLACED. 
          SO POSSIBLY IF WE DE EITHER DELAYED OR DENIED THIS, UM, WE WOULD NOT RECOVER THE, THE FINANCIAL REDUCTION THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE IN THIS COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING IT OUT WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS, HOPING THAT SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT MEET AN SB REQUIREMENT RESPONDS AND HAS A LOWER COST. 
          THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT A, A DELAY OR DENY WOULD DO? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION TO DENY ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS LIKE SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST QUESTION MR. ANY THREE MINUTES OR ONE MINUTE. 
          SORRY. 
          SO I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT OVER AND I'M GLAD THE CHAIR ASKED THAT QUESTION. 
          SO THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS BEEN BID OUT, ITS SOLICITED AND THE FIRST TIME IT WAS SBE ONLY? NO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN SBE ONLY. 
          IT HAS BEEN JUST KIND OF OPEN COMPETITION IN THE PAST, PUT OUT AND 
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RECEIVED NO BIDDERS. 
          WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS, IS OBVIOUSLY THE CHAIR. 
          JUST THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT ON WHY SOMEONE WILL OR WILL NOT BID. 
          UM, MY INTERPRETATION IS OUR CONTRACT ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO, UH, A FEDEX FREIGHT OR A UPS FREIGHT OR SOME OF THESE OTHER BIGGER CROSS COUNTRY CARRIERS. 
          IT, IT IS JUST NOT ENOUGH ACTIVITY. 
          IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN GET THAT. 
          I WONDER WHY THE, THE, OTHER THAN WHAT THE CHAIR JUST SAID FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, WHY DO WE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH SBS NOT BIDDING WHEN IT'S NOT AN SBE E ONLY WE GET LOTS OF SBS BIDDING ON OTHER CONTRACTS. 
          SH I I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. 
          'CAUSE I NEVER KNOW THAT THE UNIVERSE OF THE POPULATION RIGHT. 
          THAT COULD OR COULD NOT BID AND, AND WHY THEY DID OR DID NOT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GIVEN THE FACT THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IT'S BEEN BID OUT THE FIRST TIME WE GOT BACK, I'LL CHANGE MY POSITION. 
          I'LL BE VOTING FOR IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE WANTS BE ON FOR OR AGAINST MR. ELLI? LAST, LAST QUESTION, CHAIR. 
          ONE MINUTE. 
          ONE MINUTE. 
          I ALSO WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT SO WE BID THIS EXACT CONTRACT WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS AND, AND NOBODY APPLIED. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW WE WERE DOING PURCHASE ORDERS FOR INDIVIDUAL THINGS PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE WE'VE BID OUT THESE CONTRACT CONTOURS, UH, PREVIOUSLY UNRESTRICTED. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO SECURE A CONTRACT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, SO EVERY EVERY BUSINESS OF EVERY SIZE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THIS PREVIOUSLY? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION THEN. 
          I, I DON'T GENERALLY THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS, BUT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE THINK SBS ARE, ARE NOT BIDDING BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA WIN TO CHAIR, UH, BRIAN'S POINT AND, UH, UM, AND, AND WE BID IT OUT AND NOBODY AT ALL BID, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD TEND TO VALIDATE CHAIR BRIAN'S POINT, UH, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE COULD BE AN OCCASIONAL SPECIAL CASE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THIS MAYBE THAT REALLY DID CAUSE THIS VENDOR TO, TO BID WHEN THEY DID NOT PREVIOUSLY THINKING THEY HAD NO SHOT. 
          SO I MEAN, THAT, THAT, UH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, I JUST HOPE WE WILL RESTRICT THE USE OF THIS MECHANISM TO REALLY SPECIAL SITUATIONS LIKE THIS ONE WHERE WE'VE BID IT OUT WITH NO RESTRICTIONS TO EVERYBODY PREVIOUSLY AND GOT NO BIDS AT ALL. 
          UH, FOR ME AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          BUT BECAUSE WE DID THAT, I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND SUPPORT THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND PART OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM, JUST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN LIKE 2016 TIMEFRAME. 
          WE WILL ONLY DO THE SMALL BUSINESS SET ASIDE WITH APPROPRIATE MARKET RESEARCH ON CONTRACTS OF $6 MILLION OR LESS. 
          SO WE WON'T DO IT ON SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER CONTRACTS. 
          AND WE DO THE MARKET ANALYSIS AND RESEARCH IN ADVANCE OF RELEASE TO ENSURE THAT WE'LL GET A COMPETITIVE POOL OF BIDDERS. 
          AND ALSO ON EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS, WE DO A FAIR AND REASONABLE ASSESSMENT OF THE BID THAT IS RECEIVED BASED ON AN INDEPENDENT COST ESTIMATE DEVELOPED BY STAFF IN ADVANCE OF RELEASE OF THAT SOLICITATION. 
          SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER COST DOES COME IN IS DETERMINED TO BE FAIR AND REASONABLE BASED ON MARKET AND OUR COST ESTIMATES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE MUG OF THE MOTION FOR THE SECOND. 
          I I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, OR, OR SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MARK. 
          YEAH, I'M, I'M WITHDRAWING. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NOW, NOW HAVING WITHDRAWN THE MOTION DENY I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND, SIR? IT IS BEEN MOVED TO APPROVE BY MR. ELLI, SECOND BY CHAIR SLAGEL. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE? YOU GET A FULL 3, 2, 1, ALL LAWYER IF YOU JUST WANNA TAKE IT . 
          UM, LEMME JUST GET ONE, ONE THING, MAYBE ONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK, BUT JUST, UM, MAKE SURE LEGALLY THERE AREN'T ANY ISSUES FROM LEGAL ON, UH, A SBE ONLY. 
          NO, THE FACT THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE TWO PRIOR SOLICITATIONS IS WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED THE WHOLE UNIVERSE OUT THERE THAT BONFIRE CAN DO SO. 
          NO, THEY'RE NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THEN I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, THE NEXT TIME, IF ANY, THAT THAT AN ITEM LIKE THIS COMES BEFORE US, THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THE MEASURES THAT WE TOOK AS, AS STAFF, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT IT WAS SOMETHING I HAD HAD NOT KNOWN UNTIL I HEARD YOU SAY IT. 
          AND, AND I AND MAY, IT MAY HAVE CAME IN A WAY THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS DIDN'T HEAR IT EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS DELIVERED AND ONLY MAYBE I PICKED IT UP AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. 
          THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          ITEM SIX, EXCUSE ONE VOTE MISSING ONE WITH 11 IN FAVOR. 
          ONE ABSTENTION. 
          THIS MOTION PASSES THE NEXT ITEM. 
          CHAIRMAN, COULD I, COULD I ADD ONE MORE CO JUST A COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION TO THIS ITEM. 
          IS THAT OKAY? AFTER LOT IS OVER. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREE MINUTES. 
          MS. MS. GARCIA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD'S EDUCATION, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE THE DEPARTMENT REALLY EXPLAIN TO US, UH, ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UH, DURING THE PRESENTATION OF SOME SORT. 
          THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO 
          [10. Approval of Contract for Dallas County Hospital District d/b/a Parkland Health to  Provide Licensed Behavioral Health Services in Support of the DART Cares Multi Disciplinary Response Team Program (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Charles Cato) ]
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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, APPROVAL OF CONTRACT FOR DALLAS COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT DBA PARKLAND HEALTH TO PROVIDE LICENSE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SCIENCE SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF THE DARK CARES MULTIPLE MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM PROGRAM. 
          CHIEF CATO. 
          I'LL BE PREVIEW GOOD TODAY, SIR. 
          YES. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, WE GOING TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION, UH, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UM, AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM PRESIDENT, CEO TO, OR HIS DESIGNEE TO AWARD A TWO YEAR BASED CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE YEAR OPTIONS TO DALLAS COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT DBAS PARKLAND TO PROVIDE LICENSED BEHAVIORAL, UH, HEALTH SERVICES AND LICENSED CLINIC CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS IN SUPPORT OF DARK CARES MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM FOR TOTAL, NOT, UH, AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,062,719. 
          NOW WE'VE BEEN GOING JUST FOR THE BOARD'S, UH, IFICATION. 
          WE'VE BEEN USING ILAS. 
          SO THIS IS THE FIRST CONTRACT THAT WE'VE DONE AS FAR AS, UH, SOLICITATION. 
          WE PUT IT OUT FOR BID PROCUREMENT, PUT IT OUT FOR BID. 
          WE ONLY HAD ONE, ONE RESPONDENT AND THAT WAS PARKLAND. 
          SO, FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE A FUNDING AUTHORIZED OUR AVAILABLE IN OUR, IN OUR PROPOSED 2027 OPERATING BUDGET TO COVER, UH, TO COVER THIS SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR THIS. 
          AND IT IS IN THE 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          SO THE BACKGROUND IN 2023, WE TOOK SEVERAL MEASURES. 
          THIS WAS ONE OF THEM, TO ENHANCE SAFETY ON OUR SYSTEM. 
          THIS WAS TO DEAL WITH A MENTALLY WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS, PEOPLE THAT ARE MENTALLY ILL IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          WE ALSO, IN 2023, INSTITUTED THE TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICER PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN WE STARTED DOING MORE, UH, UH, MORE OF OUR, OUR DATA DRIVEN ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONDING, UH, DEVELOPING, UH, RESPONSES AND, AND INITIATIVES AND OPERATIONS BASED ON CRIME DATA ACROSS THE SYSTEM. 
          SO THESE CLINICIANS, UH, THIS, THIS PROGRAM WILL, WILL PAIR A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN WITH OUR DART POLICE OFFICERS TO ASSIST THE VULNERABLE POPULATION WHO MAY BE EXPERIENCING MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS ON OUR SYSTEM. 
          AND THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE A SAFE AND SECURE AND COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL DART RIDERS AND PREVENT THE USE OF OUR VEHICLES AND OUR FACILITIES AS DEFACTO SHELTERS AND PROVIDE TARGETED OUTREACH AND CONNECT VULNERABLE POPULATIONS TO APPROPRIATE SERVICES THROUGH A COORDINATED COMMUNITY BASED RESPONSE. 
          I'VE BEEN ASKED BEFORE ABOUT DATA, AND THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I LOOK AT. 
          AND SO OUR ANNUAL NUMBERS HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOK AT IS THE, UH, NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO GET SERVICE AND HOW MANY, UM, DECLINED SERVICES. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART HERE, WE STARTED, IT WAS IN NOVEMBER OF 2023 WHEN THE PROGRAM FIRST HIT THE GROUND. 
          SO WE HAD 364 TOTAL CONTACTS FOR THE REST OF THAT YEAR, AND WE HAD 173 PEOPLE DECLINED SERVICES. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT WAS A PERCENTAGE OF 47.5%. 
          SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, ALMOST HALF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE CONTACTED DECLINED SERVICES. 
          SO LOOK AT 2024, WE HAD A 3002 PEOPLE WHO WERE CONTACTED IN, UH, IN 954. 
          THAT WAS A 32%. 
          SO WE HAD A 15 PERCENTAGE POINT REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER PEOPLE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DECLINED SERVICES. 
          SO I BELIEVE AS THE PROGRAM, UH, DEVELOPED CREDIBILITY, PEOPLE SAW THAT WE WERE THERE TO HELP CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES AND NOT JUST PUT THEM IN JAIL IN THE SYSTEM TO GO A REVOLVING DOOR THAT IS THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL SYSTEM FOR THOSE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL. 
          SO WE DROPPED 15 PERCENTAGE POINTS, AND THEN IN 2025, WE HAD 2,192 TOTAL CONTACTS WITH A HUNDRED WITH A 504 WHO DECLINED SERVICES. 
          THAT'S A 23%. 
          SO EVERY YEAR WE'VE SEEN A DECLINE IN THE NUMBER, NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DECLINE SERVICES. 
          AND SO THERE IS A POPULATION IN THIS, UH, MENTIONED IT BEFORE. 
          IN THIS POPULATION THAT WE SERVE, IT'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHAT I CALL, ARE SERVICE RESISTANT. 
          THEY'RE SO LOST IN THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS OR THEIR SUBSTANCE ABUSE THAT THEY JUST, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ACCEPT ANY HELP. 
          BUT AS, AS YOU SEE FROM 2023 TO 2025, AND SO FAR, THE STILL CURRENT THREE FOR 2026 IS THAT NUMBER OF THE SERVICE RESISTANT POPULATION ARE THOSE WHO DECLINED SERVICES IS GOING DOWN AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE WHOLE TOTAL CONTACT. 
          AND SO I BELIEVE THAT'S ONE MARKER THAT I USED TO SEE THAT THE PROGRAM IS, IS SUCCESSFUL IN CONNECTING WITH THOSE THAT WE WANTED TO CONNECT WITH THE OTHER NUMBERS AND NUMBER OF EMERGENCY DETENTIONS. 
          I MENTIONED BEFORE WE HAD, UM, UH, IT WAS OUR NUMBER ONE ARREST CATEGORY AND NOW IT'S NOT. 
          BUT SO AGAIN, FROM NOVEMBER, 2023 TO THE END OF THE YEAR, THERE WERE 62 EMERGENCY DETENTIONS. 
          AND EMERGENCY DETENTION IS WHEN WE TAKE SOMEBODY INTO CUSTODY AND TRANSPORT THEM TO A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. 
          NOT BECAUSE THEY'VE COMMITTED A CRIME, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE DETERMINED THROUGH THEIR BEHAVIOR OR THROUGH THEIR STATEMENTS THAT THEY PRESENT A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. 
          AND SO TEXAS LAW ALLOWS THAT. 
          SO LOOK AT 2024. 
          WE HAD 514, 20 25, WE HAD 409 AND 2026 SO FAR. 
          HERE WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER, WE'VE HAD 237. 
          SO WE, I SEE A, A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN THE NUM, TOTAL NUMBER OF EMERGENCY DETENTIONS THAT SHOWS THAT, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT THE EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM IS BEING DEMONSTRATED THERE. 
          WE SPEND LESS TIME DEALING WITH PEOPLE IN CRISIS AND MORE TIME CONNECTING 
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THEM TO SERVICES TO KEEP THEM FROM CAUSING THE DISRUPTION THAT MR. BRADY SPOKE ABOUT IN HIS COMMENTS EARLIER. 
          THE OTHER THING I LOOK AT IS THE USE DECREASES IN USE OF FORCE. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL USES OF FORCE HERE, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR ACCREDITATION. 
          WE DO AN ANNUAL REPORT ABOUT OUR USES OF FORCE. 
          SO EVERYTHING FROM PHYSICAL CONTROL, PUTTING YOUR HANDS ON SOME MONEY TO USING AN OC SPRAY TO USE AN IMPACT WEAPON, WHICH IS A BATON, UH, TO CEW IS A TASER, A CONDUCTED ENERGY WEAPON OR A FIREARM. 
          AND THAT'S POINTING THE FIREARM, NOT NECESSARILY SHOOTING. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD 127 SHOOTINGS. 
          IF YOU SEE THAT NUMBER IN 2025. 
          IT'S JUST THAT IF YOU DISPLAY YOUR FIREARM AT SOME POINT WE RECORD THAT, WE REPORT THAT AS A USE OF FORCE IN THE COURSE OF SCOPE OF YOUR DUTIES. 
          YOU DO THAT. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT 2023, WE HAD 67,907 TOTAL CITIZEN CONTACTS. 
          WE HAD 530 REPORTED USES OF FORCE. 
          SO THAT EQUATED TO ONE USE OF FORCE FOR EVERY 128 CITIZEN CONTACTS. 
          IN 2024, WE HAD 98,312 CITIZEN CONTACTS IN 638 USES OF FORCE. 
          THAT'S ONE FOR EVERY 154 CITIZEN CONTACTS. 
          AND IN 2025, WE HAD 118,610 CITIZEN CONTACTS. 
          A 42% INCREASE FROM 2023. 
          AND WE ONLY HAD 435 USES OF FORCE REPORTED. 
          AND THAT MEANS THAT'S ONE FOR EVERY 272 CITIZEN CONTACTS. 
          SO WHEN WE, WHEN I SEE NUMBERS LIKE THAT, IT'S A COM I BELIEVE IT IS A COMBINATION OF THE, THE STRATEGIES WE'RE EMPLOYING, THE TACTICS, WE'RE EMPLOYING THE TSOS AND THIS, THIS CONTRACT HERE, UH, THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          IT'S GOOD FOR THIS AGENCY, IT'S GOOD FOR, UH, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE SYSTEM. 
          IT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE WE COME IN CONTACT WITH AND WE, WE CAN REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S POSITIVE FOR US ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WANNA RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CEO WHERE HIS DESIGNEE TO AWARD A TWO YEAR BASE CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE YEAR OPTIONS AT DALLAS COUNTY HOSPITAL, DBA PARKLAND TO PROVIDE THE LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $3,062,719. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, MEMBERS QUESTIONS. 
          MAYOR SOFFER. 
          CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS. 
          DO WE KNOW BY CHANCE HOW MANY OF 'EM ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS THAT HAVE HAD TO GONE BACK THROUGH? I MEAN, YES, SIR. 
          WE, WE HAVE, UM, ANYWAY, IT, IT VARIES MONTH TO MONTH, BUT USUALLY BETWEEN 15 TO 20% OF THE PEOPLE WE SEE MORE THAN ONCE IN, IN A GIVEN, IN A GIVEN REPORTING PERIOD IN A MONTH, WE'LL SEE. 
          WE'LL SEE THEM MORE THAN ONCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MR. GRADING THREE MINUTES. 
          I THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE INFORMATION HERE. 
          ARE THERE OTHER SERVICES, I APPRECIATE ALL THE DIVERSION THAT THE OFFICERS ARE DOING AND WORKING WITH, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS. 
          ARE THERE OTHER SERVICES THAT PROVIDE DIVERSION THAT WE CAN TAKE THESE INDIVIDUALS TO OTHER THAN ALSO PARKLAND? UH, YES, SIR. 
          SO ONE OF THE, I I'M GONNA GO BACK HERE A MINUTE TO THIS, UH, SLIDE HERE. 
          SO, UH, DIRECT CONNECTIONS, IF YOU, ABOUT THE FOURTH ROAD DOWN DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO SERVICE, WHAT WE CALL A WARM HANDOFF. 
          SO WE WORK WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT AGENCIES FROM THE HOMELESS SHELTERS TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT FACILITIES. 
          UM, JUST THE LITANY OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CONNECT THEM TO. 
          THAT'S OUR GOAL IS CONNECT THEM TO SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP THEM AND KEEP THEM OUT OF THE COM COMING BACK INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WHATEVER THEIR SIT, ONCE THE SOCIAL WORKER DOES, THEIR OTHER CLINICIAN DOES THEIR ASSESSMENT, THEY DETERMINE WHERE WE'RE GONNA, WHERE WE'RE GONNA REFER THEM TO, AND THEN WE MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO DIRECTLY CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES AND HAND THEM OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE SO THAT WE DON'T GET TIED UP TAKING 'EM TO JAIL OR TAKING 'EM TO THE HOSPITAL. 
          'CAUSE EITHER ONE OF THOSE, EVEN A TRIP TO THE HOSPITAL IS ABOUT A TWO HOUR, UH, OFFICER OUTTA SERVICE. 
          AND, AND, AND THEY'RE GONNA HOLD 'EM FOR THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT 'EM RIGHT BACK OUT AND WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH 'EM AGAIN. 
          AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO CONNECT EVERYBODY TO SOME SORT OF SERVICE THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THEIR DYNAMIC. 
          AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WITH THE, UH, WITH THE INFERENCE THAT YOU MADE, THAT IT TAKES AN OFFICER OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO FILL OUT REPORTS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S AT LEAST A TWO HOUR OPERATION. 
          SO NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT OFFICER IN SERVICE AGAIN. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE FILLING OUT REPORTS, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD USE OF, OF OFFICER TIME. 
          UM, COULD IT, COULD THIS KIND OF INFORMATION BE HELPFUL, UH, WITH HOUSING FORWARD WITH THE TEXAS 600 CONTINUUM OF CARE AND OTHER, UH, LARGE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN OUR, UH, IN OUR AREA THAT DEAL WITH PEOPLE, UM, THAT ARE HAVING NOT ONLY ISSUES BUT HOMELESS, UH, SITUATIONS? YES, SIR. 
          WE DO WORK WITH HOUSING FORWARD. 
          UH, WE WE'RE, UH, WE GO ATTEND THE MEETINGS WITH THEM THROUGH, UH, DDI, THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS, UH, IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          AND WE HAVE OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH THEM. 
          WE PASS ON THE INFORMATION TO HOUSING FORWARD AND TO OTHER HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT CAN HELP IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE TO MAKE SURE TO HOPEFULLY ENSURE 
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WE CLOSE THE LOOP AND NOT JUST LEAVE SOMEBODY, UH, LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MS. RON KRAUSS, THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, UM, MEASURE. 
          UM, WHAT'S, UH, WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT TO ME IS THE DECREASE OF USE OF FORCE IS, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT I, AND THE DECREASE OF EMERGENCY DETENTION ARE THINGS THAT I REALLY SEE AS A METRIC THAT WE CAN HANG OUR HAT ON. 
          BUT ALSO WHAT YOU SAID IS, FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT, UM, WE GET BENEFITS, UM, FROM THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE AN OFFICER OUT OF SERVICE. 
          AND GIVEN OUR PRIORITY FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY ON OUR TRAINS, THE MORE QUIVERS WE HAVE, UM, IN OUR BOW, THE BETTER. 
          UM, UH, I THINK I GOT THE METAPHOR MESSED UP. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK THAT IN THIS AGE, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT, UM, I THINK IT IS A NECESSARY PART OF HOW WE RESPOND TO OUR RIDERS AND TO ENSURE OUR OTHER RIDERS ARE SAFE, UM, AND SECURE. 
          AND I PUT A LOT OF STOCK IN WHAT YOU SAY AND WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU ARE OUR CHIEF. 
          AND SO, UM, FOR THOSE REASONS, I, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DIRECTOR RON CROSS. 
          AND ONE POINT NOW I FORGOT TO MAKE A WHILE AGO, UH, WE'RE ACCREDITED BY THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE THEY'VE IDENTIFIED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS. 
          SO ACROSS THE INDUSTRY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TO PEOPLE, UH, EXPERIENCING MENTAL ILLNESS OR MENTAL CRISIS IS A BEST PRACTICE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. LOPEZ. 
          AND THEN MR. ENOCH. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          UH, CHIEF, UH, YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU AND, UH, I THINK THIS, UH, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, DO THE RESPONSE TEAM MEMBERS WEAR UNIFORMS? YES, SIR. 
          THEY, THEY DO. 
          UH, THE POLICE OFFICERS WEAR A DIFFERENT UNIFORM, BUT THEY WEAR A UNIFORM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LOOKING AT THAT LIST, UM, ON SLIDE NUMBER FOUR THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING OF, UH, POLICE OFFICER CAN'T DO AS OPPOSED TO A RESPONSE TEAM MEMBER? THOSE ARE THE POLICE OFFICERS CAN DO WHAT, WHAT THEY DO THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS CAN'T. 
          THE ONLY ONE THING IS THEY CAN DO A MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT 'CAUSE THEY'RE LICENSED, THEY'RE LICENSED CLINICIANS AND THEY CAN DO AN ASSESSMENT, UH, TO GIVE THE OFFICER BETTER INFORMATION OF HOW TO RESPOND OR HOW TO, HOW TO, UH, ASSIST THE PERSON AND DIFFUSE. 
          AND THE, UH, TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE TOTAL BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THIS IS THE LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION. 
          HOW MANY, HOW MANY OFFICERS COULD WE HIRE AS A RESULT OF $3 MILLION? UH, WELL JUST THE, THE NUMBERS, IT'S ABOUT 30 A HUNDRED AND I GUESS 120,000 TOTAL FOR PER OFFICER. 
          AND SO, GIVE OR TAKE, I I I COULD DO 25 TO 30. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF, IF I CAN HIRE ALL THOSE OFFICERS, UH, IN, IN THE MARKET THAT WE'RE IN. 
          AND SO, UM, I SEE THIS AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER TO HELP ME FROM CLOSE THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT I CAN HIRE AND WHAT WE HAVE HIRED AND WHAT WHAT WE HAVE ON THE STREET. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, I I, I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND I, I FEEL LIKE DO WE NEED MORE OF A AUTHORITATIVE PRESENCE ON OUR, ON OUR TRAINS AND OUR BUSES, UH, TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? UM, I THINK I'VE BEEN ABOUT NO ON THIS, UM, JUST BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. 
          I YES, SIR. 
          I RESPECT THAT. 
          I'D JUST LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU LIKE, UH, ONE, ONE THING. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S ONE PERSON, I JUST TALKED TO THE DA ABOUT THEM LAST WEEK. 
          WE'VE ARRESTED HIM 35 TIMES. 
          WE HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING HIM IN JAIL. 
          AND HE'S BEEN FOUND MENTALLY INCOMPETENT. 
          THEY HOLD HIM FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THEY CALL ME TO LET ME KNOW WE'RE DROPPING THE CHARGE. 
          'CAUSE HE'S NOT MENTALLY COMPETENT TO STAY IN TRIAL. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT HE'S, UM, UH, COMPETENT ENOUGH TO, TO KNOW THE RIGHT FROM WRONG AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT HIM BACK. 
          WE'RE JUST LETTING YOU KNOW HE'S COMING BACK TO YOU. 
          SO 35 TIMES IN THE FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE ARRESTED THIS GUY. 
          AND HE'S ONE OF THOSE WHO DECLINE SERVICES. 
          HE, HE WILL NOT ACCEPT HELP FROM US. 
          HE WILL NOT ACCEPT HELP FROM, UM, FROM THE STAFF AT THE JAIL, FROM THE, FROM PART. 
          SO, UH, BUT HE'S SOMEBODY, WE'RE GONNA PUT HIM IN JAIL EVERY TIME WE CAN BECAUSE IF HE'S, HE'S, HE'S A DANGER TO HIMSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT? AND SO, UM, I'M HOPING ONE DAY, UH, SOMEBODY MAKES THE CONNECTION WITH HIM AND, AND GETS HIM OFF OF OUR, OFF OF OUR HANDS. 
          BUT UNTIL THEN, UH, I 
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I, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T SAY THE NAME OUT HERE PUBLICLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE ARRESTED HIM 35 TIMES. 
          WE'RE GONNA ARREST HIM 35 MORE TIMES. 
          YEAH. 
          IF WE HAVE TO. 
          SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING SOMEBODY IN JAIL. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE GET PAID TO DO. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          SOME FOLKS, IF THEY'RE NOT DEAD OR LOCKED UP, THEY'RE GONNA BE HURTING PEOPLE. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOCK 'EM UP. 
          YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS JUST THE INDEMNIFICATION OF THESE RESPONSE TEAM MEMBERS, UH, RELATED TO DART. 
          SO IF THEY GET HURT ON THE JOB, SOMEBODY PUNCHES THEM OR THE, THE LIABILITIES LIE WITH PARKLAND OR WITH DART WITH WITH PARKLAND, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S A, THEY'RE A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE THROUGH PARKLAND. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I DUNNO, LET ME ASK OUR GENERAL COUNSEL ON THAT. 
          DON'T, DON'T WE HAVE SOME LIABILITY RELATED TO AN ISSUE OF THEM GETTING HURT ON THE JOB. 
          THE THE PRIOR LA AND I ASSUME THAT THE CONTRACT'S GONNA BE THE SAME IF, IF IT'S OUR EMPLOYEE, WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE COSTS. 
          IF IT'S THEIR EMPLOYEE, THEY TAKE CARE OF THAT COST. 
          SO THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY COULD SUE DART IF THEY GOT HURT ON THE JOB. 
          WELL OF COURSE THEY CAN ALWAYS SUE. 
          SURE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEFENSES. 
          BUT, BUT IN THESE CASES, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE WAY WE DO INDEMNITY WHEN WE DO THESE ILAS WITH THE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, THE PERSONNEL THAT YOU PROVIDE, YOU PROVIDE THE, UM, ANY, ANY, UM, INCIDENTS TAKEN CARE OF BY THE HIRING AGENCY. 
          AND WE DO THE SAME FOR OUR OFFICERS. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          YES SIR. 
          MR. ENOCH. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, CHIEF, I WAS CONFUSED BY SOMETHING YOUR EARLIER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 118,000 CITIZEN CONTACTS. 
          WE ONLY HAD A CERTAIN NUMBER, THIS AND THAT, WHICH WAS 0.1%. 
          AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 118,000 CITIZEN CONTACTS MEANS IN A YEAR. 
          THE MDRT DOESN'T MEET WITH 118,000 PEOPLE. 
          NO SIR. 
          THAT, THAT'S AGENCY WIDE. 
          SO THOSE NUMBERS WERE AGENCY WIDE. 
          LET'S TALK MDRT, LET'S TALK ABOUT MDRT. 
          WE HAD FROM YOUR GRAPH, A TOTAL OF 6,478 CONTACTS WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE THE SUBJECT OF AN MDRT CALL. 
          CORRECT? EITHER, EITHER A CALL OR A SELF-INITIATED. 
          THEY SAW SOMEBODY AND THEY WENT TO MAKE CON CONVERSATION. 
          SO THE 118,000, THAT'S NOT THE UNIVERSITY. 
          NO SIR. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST THE MDRT. 
          THAT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS, BUT WE, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE, WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF CONTACTS WE HAVE WITH CITIZENS. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE, AND AND SOMEONE ASKED YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF, SO I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO DID, ASKED YOU THE RECIDIVISM PEOPLE WHO COME BACK. 
          MAYBE IT WAS R DO YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OR ARE WE JUST, ARE WE ESTIMATING WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE NUMBER WE, WE TRACK EVERY, EVERY MONTH HOW MANY PEOPLE WE, WE RECEIVE, UH, WE CONTACT MORE THAN ONE TIME IN THAT MONTH. 
          SO THAT NUMBER'S BEEN AS LOW AS 11%, AS HIGH AS 20%. 
          SO IT VARIES IN THEIR, UH, I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THOSE MONTHS AND I CAN CALCULATE THAT WELL, UH, TO PUT ME ON THE FENCE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN ON THIS. 
          YES SIR. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR METRICS BY WHICH I COULD JUDGE THAT WE'RE SPENDING THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY. 
          WELL, AND EVERYTHING TELLS ME A AND IT'S ANECDOTAL, BUT IT'S A PLETHORA OF ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY BETTER. 
          THAT OUR TRAINS ARE NOT PERCEIVED AS ANY SAFER. 
          THAT THERE ARE NOT FEWER HOMELESS FOLKS ON THE TRAIN. 
          THERE ARE NOT FEWER HOMELESS FOLKS CAUSING, CAUSING AN ISSUE WITH THE AGENCY. 
          THERE ARE MORE. 
          NOW I DON'T BLAME THE MDRT FOR CREATING MORE, BUT I KNOW IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. 
          IT'S PERCEIVED BY EVERYBODY I TALK TO IN EVERY CITY WE HAVE, JUST LIKE IT IS ON THE CITY STREETS. 
          SO I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT THE MDRT DOES ONE THING TO MAKE OUR RIDERS MORE SAFE OR, UH, MORE COMFORTABLE AS THEY RIDE ON OUR, OUR TRAINS OR BUSES. 
          NOW I START WITH THAT PROPOSITION AND THEN I ADD, THEN I TAKE, AND I REALIZE 2026 IS ONLY A PARTIAL YEAR, BUT SO FAR IT'S $967 PER CONTACT. 
          IF YOU TAKE ALL 6,478 AND YOU ASSUME THAT IT'S BEEN ABOUT A MILLION HALF A YEAR. 
          WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          IT'S ABOUT $630 CONTACT. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK THOSE ARE ECONOMICAL NUMBERS WHEN WE DON'T SHOW ANY IMPROVEMENT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, WHICH IS, ARE THOSE CARS OR THOSE BUSES PERCEIVED TO BE SAFER BY OUR RIDERS THAN THEY WERE OR MORE COMFORTABLE THAN THEY WERE BEFORE? SO NOW LET'S GET TO THE, THE ORIGINAL IN 2023, WE HAD HOW MANY AGENCIES THAT WERE HELP HELPING FOOT THE BILL. 
          WE HAD THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          AND WHO ELSE? UH, IN 2023. 
          THE CONTRACT WASN'T IN OUR, UNDER MY DEPARTMENT, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE OTHER, OTHER AGENCIES SHARING THE COST. 
          UH, IT WAS THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS PROVIDING PARAMEDICS, BUT WE WERE REIMBURSING THEM FOR THAT, FOR THE PARAMEDICS. 
          'CAUSE WE STARTED OUT WITH A PARAMEDIC, A CLINICIAN AND A POLICE OFFICER. 
          SO NOW, BUT CITY OF THAT, THAT THEN, FORGIVE ME, IT'S NOT THE CONTRIBUTIONS CITY OF DALLAS PULLED OUT SOMETIME IN 2024. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? NO, SIR. 
          WE, WE DID, WE WE DID NOT RENEW THEM BECAUSE 
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THEY WERE TAKEN UP OVER THREE, ALMOST THREE FOURTHS OF THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE PARAMEDICS AT $95 AN HOUR. 
          THEY WERE THE SINGLE GREATEST COST AND THEY WERE NOT PROVIDING THE BENEFIT THAT WE HOPED THEY WOULD, WHICH WAS REDUCING OUR NUMBER OF AMBULANCE USES EMS CALLS. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT. 
          THE, UH, I THINK, UH, ROY ALSO HAS THIS E EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST AN OFFICER CAN DO. 
          NOW THE OFFICER MIGHT NOT HAVE THE TRAINING, THE SENSITIVITY TRAINING OR THE, THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF MENTAL ISSUE IS FORCE IS FACING THAT PERSON. 
          BUT THE OFFICER CAN REMOVE THAT PERSON FROM THE TRAIN, CAN DO A FORCIBLE DETENTION, CAN GIVE PRESENCE TO THE OTHER FOLKS ON THE, ON THE CAR. 
          AND AT MY MY COUNT, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY 12 AND A HALF MORE OFFICERS AT $120,000 A PIECE FOR EACH OF THESE $101.5 MILLION EXPENDITURES. 
          SO WE COULD HIRE 13 OFFICERS THIS YEAR. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND STAFFING IT MIGHT BE ANOTHER ISSUE, BUT I JUST MEASURE THIS AGAINST 13 MORE OFFICERS AND OR PE OR UH, F FES. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH A CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICER. 
          WE CAN GO TO INCREASE THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE HAVE ON THE TRAINS. 
          I JUST THINK THERE ARE BETTER WAYS FOR US TO SPEND IT. 
          AND I STILL DON'T SEE ANY METRICS SHOWING THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE ON OUR TRAINS OR THAT THERE'S ANY PERCEIVED DIFFERENCE TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE RIDING OUR, OUR SYSTEM. 
          SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. BASS? THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK CHIEF CATO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TO PIGGYBACK ON, UH, WHAT MARK WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE, THE METRICS I'M LOOKING AT HERE, THERE MERELY, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO, IT'S JUST COMPARED TO ITSELF, RIGHT? SO, SO WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THE, UM, WITHOUT THE MDRT, RIGHT? SO WHAT DID IT, WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE IN 2021? WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE IN 2022? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DID THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE THEN? BECAUSE I KNOW, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH, WITH MR. ENOCH, THE PERCEPTION IS THAT DARK'S NO SAFER THAN IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          UM, SO HELP ME TO SHOW ME THE DATA TO, TO DISPROVE THAT STATEMENT PLEASE. 
          SO DURING, DURING THE PANDEMIC, UM, I WASN'T HERE THEN. 
          I CAME ON BOARD IN SEPTEMBER, 2022. 
          UH, DURING THE, DURING THE PANDEMIC THERE, THERE WERE, UH, FTA REGULATIONS ABOUT WHO COULD BE ON THE VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THIS, THAT, THAT BECAME A, OUR, OUR SYSTEM BECAME A DE FACTO SHELTER. 
          THAT'S WHY THAT STATEMENT WAS IN THERE, BECAUSE NO ONE WAS RIDING, PEOPLE WERE NOT, UH, THERE WERE SOCIAL DISTANCING PLACE. 
          BUSINESSES WERE SHUT DOWN, WORKING FROM REMOTELY, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO THE SYSTEM WAS, WAS, WAS, I BELIEVE, LEFT VULNERABLE. 
          AND SO WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2022, THE FIRST THING, THE THING I HEARD, THE LOUDEST, AND I'VE BEEN HEARING THE LOUDEST, IS ABOUT THE UNHOUSED POPULATIONS USING OUR SYSTEM. 
          SO THIS WAS ONE, THIS IS JUST ONE ASPECT OF, OF OTHER THINGS, HIRING THE TSOS, INCREASING THE PRESENCE OF ARMED UNIFORM OFFICERS, UM, DOING THOSE INITIATIVES WHERE WE, WE STRATEGICALLY LOOK AT A SURGICAL APPROACH. 
          UH, WHERE ARE THE PLACES WITH THE, THAT ARE THE BUSIEST? THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST CALL VOLUME, THE HIGHEST CRIME VOLUME. 
          AND WE DEPLOY TO THOSE AREAS, AND WE ADDRESS THE PEOPLE THERE. 
          AND WE TAKE, WE MAKE LOTS OF ARRESTS. 
          WE'RE THE SECOND HIGHEST, UH, BOOKEND TO DALLAS COUNTY JAIL. 
          IN, IN, YOU KNOW, DALLAS HAS 3000 POLICE OFFICERS. 
          WE HAVE 200, AND THERE'S OTHER AGENCIES HERE, UH, IN THIS, IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND WE MAKE MORE ARRESTS THAN TAKE MORE PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY THAN ANY OF THOSE OTHER AGENCIES. 
          SO ARE THE MANY WOMEN IN THE ORGANIZATION ARE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD. 
          AND, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST ONE, ONE TOOL. 
          IT IT, IT'S NOT THE ANSWER. 
          IF IT WAS THE ANSWER, IT WOULD'VE FIXED IT ALREADY. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S PART OF THE THINGS TO BE RESPONSIBLE, UH, BEST PRACTICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT WE HAVE SOME RESPONSE TO THE MENTAL, MENTAL ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TO MENTAL ILLNESS. 
          DALLAS HAS ONE, UH, GARLAND HAS ONE, IRVING HAS ONE. 
          UH, THEY HAVE SOCIAL WORKER, BUT EVERY AGENCY IS DEALING WITH THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          BUT THEY'RE ALL HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TO THOSE THAT ARE MENTALLY ILL OR UNHOUSED. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS OUR RESPONSE. 
          AND WHAT DO YOU FEEL IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THIS, IF WE DISSOLVED THIS RELATIONSHIP? I, I THINK IT WOULD FOR THE, THOSE, THE SERVICE RESISTANT PEOPLE, NOTHING WOULD CHANGE. 
          THERE'S STILL GONNA BE SERVICE RESISTANT, BUT THERE'S A PORTION OF THE POPULATION, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION THAT HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIVERT THEM FROM THE SYSTEM AND KEEP 'EM COMING BACK. 
          AND BEING THAT 35 GUY, 35 TIME ARRESTEE GUY THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, IT WOULD HARM OUR ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND GET THEM TO, TO SOME SERVICES THAT WILL CHANGE THEIR DYNAMIC AND CHANGE THEIR, THEIR IMPACT ON OUR SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'D MISS. 
          BUT IS IS THAT DART'S RESPONSIBILITY? UH, WELL, FOR OUR SYSTEM IT IS. 
          BUT FOR EACH OF THE CITIES, I MEET WITH THE CI WITH THE SERVICE, UH, MEMBER CITY CHIEFS. 
          AND, UH, WE, WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. 
          WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ISSUES. 
          THEY BLAME US. 
          AND WE CAN SAY, WHEN WE ONLY PICK UP THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOUR CITY AND BRING THEM, MOVE 'EM AROUND SO WE CAN POINT THE FINGER AT 
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EACH OTHER OR WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO WE'VE CHOSEN TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE EACH OF OUR TEAMS. UH, I'VE, I'VE MET WITH CHIEF MILLER AND IRVING. 
          I MET WITH, UM, UH, JEFF BRYAN OVER IN GARLAND TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT WHEN HE WAS STILL CHIEF AND NOW THAT HE'S MOVED ON THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          BUT, UH, WE, WE, I BELIEVE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR US AND A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IS TO HAVE AN APPROACH FOR THOSE WHO WANT HELP. 
          THOSE WHO ARE AVAILABLE AND ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT, THAT WE CONNECT THEM TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD CHANGE THEIR DYNAMIC AND GET 'EM OFF OF OUR SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          CHAIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR STONE FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          TWO MINUTES. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY DONE A ROUND. 
          I, THIS, SIR. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UH, I KNOW THIS IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT AND, AND IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 
          AND, AND I CAN JUST SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE. 
          WE PUT TOGETHER A MENTAL HEALTH TEAM. 
          THEY'RE DRESSED DIFFERENT THAN THE OFFICERS. 
          AND YOU SEE, WHEN THEY STOP SOMEBODY ON THE STREET OR WHEN THEY'RE COMING OFF THE TRAIN OR WHEREVER THEY'RE COMING FROM, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH ON HOW THEY CAN TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE SOMEBODY WITH A UNIFORM AND A GUN. 
          THEY HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON, ON THAT PERSON. 
          WHERE IF YOU HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH TEAM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, BUT THEY WERE SEEING ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO 1200 PEOPLE A MONTH THAT THEY WERE BEING ABLE TO GET OFF THE STREETS. 
          YOU'RE OFF THE CORNERS, YOU ARE OFF THE PARKING LOTS AND GET 'EM INTO 'EM. 
          NOW. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS, CHIEF, WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WERE COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE SEEING ABOUT THE SAME 15, 20% THAT THEY WERE RE HAVING TO RUN BACK THROUGH THE PROGRAM. 
          BUT IT FREED UP OUR POLICE OFFICERS BECAUSE, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE WHOLE GOAL, WAS TO BE ABLE TO, TO REALLY HELP 'EM, BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKEN BACK BY THE OFFICERS, JUST BY THE WAY THEY LOOK AND DRESS AND WHAT THEY HAVE FOR EQUIPMENT. 
          AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET 'EM IN AND OUT OF IT. 
          THE THING THAT I, THAT'LL BE INTERESTING TO ME TO SEE IS WHERE WE GO WITH THIS INITIATIVE THAT THE COUNTY IS PUTTING WITH A 12 CENT INCREASE ON OUR COUNTY TAX, WHERE A HUNDRED TO 150 MILLION WILL BE GOING TO HOUSING FORWARD TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH OF, OF, UH, THE, THE DALLAS COUNTY AND HOW THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE SPENT. 
          MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS DART NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE. 
          JUST LIKE I'VE SAID, IRVING NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE FROM EACH OF OUR CITIES AND SERVICE ALL OF OUR CITIES, NOT JUST ONE OR TWO OF OUR CITIES. 
          AND SO WE SEE THE RETURN ON IT. 
          SO, UH, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND WE CAN ALL PLAY THE GAME. 
          SHOULD, SHOULD DART PAY FOR IT, SHOULD THE CITY PAY FOR IT, SHOULD THE COUNTY PAY FOR IT. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, TO MARK'S POINT, UH, CHAIR OR, UH, MR. ENOCH, IT'S A PERCEPTION BY THE PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GET ON OUR VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE HOMELESS THAT ARE ON THERE, OR THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED THAT ARE ON THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE CAN SAY IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S, BUT WE'RE NEVER GONNA DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM IF WE DON'T GET IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          UH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE. 
          CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CHIEF. 
          I KNOW THAT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT TO TRAIN YOU BOTH WORK, COORDINATE IT. 
          WE CAN GET OUR TEAM THERE, YOUR TEAM'S THERE, AND, AND, AND WE, WE TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM RATHER THAN YOU SAY, OKAY, NOW THEY'RE ON IRVING'S GROUND, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 'EM. 
          AND WE'RE SAYING, NO, THEY'RE TWO FOOT IN ON, ON DART'S PROPERTY, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM BECAUSE IT ISN'T GOING AWAY. 
          AND EVERY TIME WE THINK WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY, WE'RE NOT. 
          IT'S, IT'S GROWING. 
          AND SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT, CHIEF, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ONE TOOL. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, A WAY FOR US TO AT LEAST, IF WE CAN GET 50%, THEY'LL ACTUALLY GO AND GET HELP, AND IT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          THAT'S 50%. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO REARREST AGAIN, BECAUSE NOBODY'S, THEY'RE AFRAID TO TALK TO YOUR OFFICERS OR NOBODY'S WORKING WITH THEM. 
          SO THAT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THANK YOU, MR. RICKARD, ON A THREE MINUTE THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          AND THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION. 
          I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM KIND OF DIVERTS PEOPLE OUT OF THE NORMAL ARREST, UH, OUTCOME, WHAT IS THE COST OF AN ARREST VERSUS THE COST OF, OF THIS TYPE OF INTERVENTION? RIGHT NOW, IT COSTS US $318 FOR EVERYBODY. 
          WE BOOK IN A DALLAS COUNTY JAIL, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST. 
          I'VE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE BECAUSE WE, THEY'RE NO LONGER GONNA MAGISTRATE TAKEN BEFORE A JUDGE FOR FREE. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $253 FOR THAT. 
          SO IT'S GONNA COST US ABOUT $571 FOR EVERYBODY. 
          WE BOOK IN, IN DALLAS COUNTY JAIL, UH, STARTING OCTOBER 1ST. 
          AND, AND THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU 
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KNOW, VICE CHAIR ENOCH MADE THE POINT OF ABOUT $630 PER CONTACT FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT PRETTY COMPARABLE NUMBERS, WHETHER WE APPROACH IT THIS WAY OR ARREST 570 VERSUS 630. 
          IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          BUT IT TAKES AT LEAST FOUR HOURS TO TAKE SOMEBODY TO JAIL. 
          'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE BOOK IN LINE. 
          THEY HAVE TO SEE THE NURSE, THEY HAVE CERTAIN PROTOCOLS, TWO HOURS TO TAKE 'EM OVER TO PARKLAND OR ONE OF THE OTHER MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS. 
          SO WE, WE SAVE THAT OFFICER TIME MM-HMM . 
          ON TOP OF THAT ACTUAL COST OF BOOKING SOMEBODY IN. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR STAFFING, IF WE'RE TAKING UP MORE OFFICER TIME, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO HIRE MORE OFFICERS, WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO DO IN THIS JOB MARKET. 
          BUT, UM, BUT, BUT THAT THERE, THERE'S A COST TO THAT, I GUESS IS CORRECT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A COST. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OKAY, THE OUT-OF-POCKET COST OF AN ARREST ARE 570 PLUS FOUR HOURS OF OFFICER TIME VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S 630 OR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS RESPONSE TEAM TO RESPOND. 
          UM, WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK IS, IS TAKING OUT ALL OF THE OTHER FACTORS, WHICH I'LL ADDRESS IN A MINUTE, BUT TAKING OUT ALL OF THE OTHER FACTORS, WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK IS MORE ECONOMICAL? WELL, I, I THINK IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO SERVICE AND THEY ACCEPT IT AND THEY FOLLOW THROUGH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A WIN FOR EVERYBODY. 
          IT'S A WIN FOR SOCIETY, WIN FOR OUR SYSTEM, WIN FOR OUR RIDERS, WIN FOR US. 
          UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL, EVEN THOUGH JUST 'CAUSE WE CONNECT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA COMPLETE THE PROGRAM. 
          I, I GET THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT, UH, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT'S ALWAYS BEST IF WE CAN, UH, UH, UH, DIVERT THEM FROM, FROM THE, FROM THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S NOT CHANGING THE DYNAMIC. 
          IT'S NOT WORKING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, SO ALONG THOSE LINES, THE, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL WITH 35 ARRESTS WHO YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHO IF, IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY DIVERT THEM INTO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS IS GONNA GET 36, 37, 38 AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, COULD YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH ALL OF THE WAYS IN WHICH THE OUTCOME IS DIFFERENT IF WE USE THIS PROGRAM VERSUS IF WE ARREST THAT INDIVIDUAL? WELL, IF WE CONNECT HIM TO A PROGRAM, UM, HE, HE'S, HE'S MENTALLY ILL. 
          HE'S NOT COMPETENT. 
          IF HE GETS INTO, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, TREATMENT AND HE GETS HIS MEDICATION AND HE FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH THAT, HE DOESN'T COME ON OUR SYSTEM AND ACT OUT AND CAUSE US TO HAVE TO GO RESPOND TO HIM OR SEE HIM AND KNOW THAT HE'S OUT. 
          HE HAS AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL TRESPASS, UH, WARNING. 
          SO HE'S GONNA COME TO OUR SYSTEM AND HE'S GONNA GET ARRESTED. 
          SO IF WE CAN CONNECT HIM, UM, TO SERVICES THAT HE ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH, THAT CHANGES THAT DYNAMIC. 
          HE'S NOT GONNA BE DISRUPTIVE TO OUR SYSTEM. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO TAKE AN OFFICER OUT OF, OFF OF, UH, OFF THE STREET TO TAKE HIM TO JAIL, TO BOOK HIM IN AT DALLAS COUNTY JAIL. 
          'CAUSE WE WE'RE GONNA, AS IT, IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, EVERY TIME WE SEE HIM ON OUR SYSTEM, HE'S GOING TO GO TO JAIL. 
          'CAUSE HE HAS AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL TRESPASS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ANOTHER QUESTION, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF OUR MEMBER CITIES HAVE COMPARABLE PROGRAMS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALSO HEARD A DISCUSSION ABOUT, IS THIS OUR JOB VERSUS IS THIS, YOU KNOW, A MUNICIPAL FUNCTION? UH, YOU KNOW, ARE WE KIND OF PICKING UP THE SLACK FOR MEMBER CITIES BY, YOU KNOW, BY HAVING THIS PROGRAM AND BASICALLY WHEN THEY COME ON DART AND COMMIT AN OFFENSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA GET THIS INTERVENTION. 
          UM, DO WE KNOW ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW IN PLANO THERE'S CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING, YOU KNOW, FOR OFFICERS. 
          DO WE KNOW OUR MEMBER CITIES BY AND LARGE DOING THINGS LIKE THIS? THE, THE STATE REQUIRES CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING FOR ALL OFFICERS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DEESCALATION TRAINING. 
          THAT'S PART OF A OKAY. 
          TEXAS COMMISSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUIREMENTS. 
          HOWEVER, UM, DALLAS HAS THE RIGHT CARE TEAM, AND THEY HAVE A CLINICIAN, A PARAMEDIC, AND A POLICE OFFICER. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE 18 OF THOSE TEAMS. THEY CAME AND LET US SHADOW THEM AND TO SEE HOW THEIR PROGRAM WORKED. 
          THEY HAD IT FIRST. 
          SOME OF OUR MEMBER CITIES HAVE CRITICIZED US FOR NOT HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          'CAUSE THEY DO. 
          AND WE, WE, WE, WE WERE THE ONES WHO WEREN'T RESPONDING AS THEY SAW IT. 
          BUT I KNOW THAT GARLAND HAS, HAS A TYPE OF RESPONSE. 
          I KNOW THAT, UH, IRVING DOES. 
          AND I KNOW THAT LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, ROULETTE SENT SOME OFFICERS OUT TO SEE OUR PROGRAM AND TALK TO OUR CLINICIANS AND OUR, AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO SEE ABOUT SOME SORT OF PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN, UH, THEY CAN WORK THERE. 
          AND, UH, SO EVERY, I KNOW THE PLANO HAS SOCIAL WORKERS ON STAFF, AND THEY CAN, OFFICER CAN MAKE A REPORT, A SOCIAL WORKER REFERRAL. 
          AND SO THERE'S EVERY AGENCY, THERE'S THREE WAYS TO HANDLE IT. 
          IS A CLINICIAN ALONE, A A POLICE OFFICER WHO'S TRAINED, OR A CLINICIAN, A POLICE OFFICER, OR EVEN SOCIAL WORKERS WHO FOLLOW UP AFTERWARDS AND GO BACK AND TRY TO CONTACT THE PERSON. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THAT THIS CAN BE DONE. 
          I BELIEVE THIS FOR US, IN OUR ENVIRONMENT IS, IS THE BEST OPTION TO HAVE A CLINICIAN PAIRED WITH A POLICE OFFICER. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND ALSO, I I, ON THE POINT OF COULD THIS BE UTILIZED DIFFERENTLY TO BE MORE TARGETED TOWARD THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL IS LIKELY TO ACCEPT HELP, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THIS OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE MEANINGFULLY DIFFERENT FROM AN ARREST. 
          UM, WOULD THAT IMPACT THE COST IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD MORE CONTACTS OR FEWER CONTACTS. 
          DOES THAT, DOES THAT IMPACT THE OVERALL COST OF THE PROGRAM? OR, 
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UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER UNDER THIS CONTRACT, IS IT JUST A SET AMOUNT, NO MATTER HOW MANY CONTACTS THERE ARE? UH, NO. 
          THE, THE NUMBER OF CONTACTS DOESN'T IMPACT THE COST. 
          IT'S FOR THE COST OF THE CLINICIAN. 
          SO IT'S ABOUT 750,000 OR SO A YEAR FOR THE CLINICIANS. 
          AND FOR THE FOUR YEARS THAT'S WORTH THE THREE TO 3 MILLION, UH, THREE, 3,062,000 I THINK IT WAS. 
          UH, SO IT, THE, THE COST OF CLINICIAN IS THE SET COST. 
          WHETHER WE CONTACT A THOUSAND PEOPLE OR A HUNDRED PEOPLE, THE, THE COST IS, IS THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR THE COMMISSIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. 
          SO, UM, BASED ON ALL OF THAT, JUST KIND OF SUMMING IT UP, IT SOUNDS LIKE EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROGRAM, THE COST OF ARRESTING SOMEBODY IS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME OR MAYBE EVEN GREATER THAN THE COST OF THIS PROGRAM AND THIS PROGRAM, UH, EVEN LEAVING THE ECONOMIC ASIDE MAY IN SOME CASES THOUGH, CERTAINLY NOT ALL LEAD TO A BETTER OUTCOME. 
          DID, DID I KIND OF SUM THAT UP CORRECTLY? UH, YES, SIR. 
          I THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          GIVEN, GIVEN THAT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS. 
          BUT IF, IF ARRESTS ARE NOT MEANINGFULLY MORE EXPENSIVE, AND IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS CAN EVEN IN SOME CASES, LEAD TO A MEANINGFULLY BETTER OUTCOME THAT YOU KNOW THE NEXT TIME AND THE NEXT TIME AFTER THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND IT'S ALSO BETTER FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, TO GET HELP, THEN, UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MS. JUAN KRAUS, TWO MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THE UNHOUSED AND, AND, UH, PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS DO BECOME DART'S PROBLEM WHEN THEY GET INTO OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. 
          EVEN THOUGH THEY, WE DO NOT HAVE RESIDENTS ON OUR DART UH, VEHICLES. 
          THEY ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITIES THAT WE SERVE IN, IN OUR SERVICE AREA. 
          PUTTING MY MY HAT ON FROM, UH, I GUESS A, A AS AN ATTORNEY, UH, A PI ATTORNEY, I ALSO GET CONCERNED IF SOMETHING UNTOWARD HAPPENS DURING A, AN ARREST AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROGRAM, UM, MITIGATION FACTORS COULD BE USED WHEN WE, UM, COME TO, UH, ARGUING, UM, LIABILITY ISSUES. 
          SO I THINK JUST FROM A LEGAL LIABILITY STANDPOINT, IT MAKES SENSE TO ALSO HAVE, UH, A ANOTHER OPTION WITH MENTAL HEALTH. 
          UM, AND THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND, AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT MAGISTRATE HAS NOW COME WITH A FEE THAT MAKES IT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AND MAKING A BUSINESS CASE FOR THIS PROGRAM, I THINK EVEN STRONGER. 
          SO AGAIN, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE MR. GRADY ON A TWO MINUTE, AND THEN MR. ENOCH ON A TWO MINUTE AS WELL. 
          CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, ADD A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. 
          AND I WILL, UM, PREFACE THAT BY SAYING THAT I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION, AND I'M ALSO ON THE, UH, TEXAS 600 CONTINUUM OF CARE. 
          SO I'M WORKING WITH HOMELESS HOMELESSNESS ISSUES ALL OF THE TIME. 
          UM, I CAN SAY THAT WHEN TALKING WITH THE SHERIFFS, AND EVEN IN THE CURRENT, UM, INTERIM SESSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE DOWN IN AUSTIN, THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS BY SHERIFFS ACROSS THIS, UH, ACROSS THIS STATE THAT HAVE SAID THAT DIVERSION PROGRAMS ARE THE BEST WAY TO GO, UM, IN DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THE COST OF JAIL TIME. 
          AND BECAUSE WE'RE TEACHING THE INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY ARE INCARCERATED INTO A JAIL, NEW SKILLS THAT THEY DON'T NEED. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THAT, UH, BY, UH, DIVERTING THEM INTO OTHER AREAS, UH, SIMPLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. 
          JAIL TIME IS VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOTELS AROUND, AND, AND THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED TYPICALLY FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WHICH IS THE REASON WE HAVE PARKLAND HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY. 
          THE REASON THAT THE NEW WING WAS BUILT IN COLLIN COUNTY FOR MENTAL, FOR MENTAL HEALTH WORK. 
          AND THE REASON THAT UT SOUTHWESTERN JUST ADDED A 270 BAD MENTAL HEALTH IS, UH, UH, POSSIBILITY. 
          NOW, THE REASON THAT I BRING THAT ALL UP IS BECAUSE LEGISLATIVELY, BACK IN 2023, A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WAS PASSED THAT BASICALLY MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR CAMPING, UM, AND ENCAMPMENTS. 
          AND WE BEGAN TO CITYWIDE BREAK ENCAMPMENTS UP. 
          THE INDIVIDUALS HAD NO PLACE TO GO, SO THEY BEGAN TO SCATTER AND MOVE AROUND. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE MAKE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT CHANGES THE DYNAMICS, UM, WE HAVEN'T IMPROVED ANYTHING. 
          WE'VE SIMPLY MOVED IT FROM POINT A TO POINT B. 
          WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, HOWEVER, IS THAT BY DI, BY DIVERSION, BY ANY AGENCY, WHETHER THAT IS DART OR WHETHER THAT IS THE CITY OF PLANO OR THE CITY OF DALLAS RECIDIVISM ON, ON THOSE THAT RECEIVED DIVERSION AND SOCIAL WORK AND CASEWORK CARE IS 7%. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS A, A, A INDIVIDUAL, MAYBE 35 ARREST WORTH, UM, THAT, UH, JUST CAN'T DEAL WITH THE 
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SYSTEM IN ANY FASHION MANNER OR, OR MEANS. 
          AND WHEN A SOCIAL WORKER COMES TO THEM IN CIVILIAN, THEY, UH, CIVILIAN CLOTHES, THEY ACT DIFFERENTLY THAN WHEN THEY SEE A UNIFORM. 
          UNIFORM HAS A TENDENCY TO SET THEM OFF. 
          UM, SO, UM, DIVERSION AND THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE, UM, REALLY DO WORK. 
          UM, AND MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN USING THE SAME MEANS TO DO THAT. 
          AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT RECIDIVISM IS VERY LOW. 
          FOR THOSE THAT RECEIVE HELP. 
          FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT RECEIVE HELP, RECIDIVISM IS VERY HIGH. 
          I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY TWO MINUTES? YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, I'M GETTING CONFUSED BY THE DISCUSSIONS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE ANTHONY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE $600 THIS WAY AND SIX, NOBODY'S LOOKING AT THE FIGURES. 
          I MEAN, THE GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF ARRESTS DURING THIS TIME IS 4%. 
          IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, CHIEF, THAT WAS IN 2025 WHEN WE HAD 99 89 PEOPLE ARRESTED EITHER THROUGH EMERGENCY OR ARREST, 89 OUT OF 2,192. 
          AM I READING THAT CORRECT? I NEED TO, THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ARRESTED. 
          TOTAL ARREST? NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MDRT PROGRAM. 
          89 PEOPLE. 
          NO, SIR. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET THE PRESENTATION. 
          SURE. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S ON PAGE FOUR. 
          I I DON'T HAVE THAT PRESENTATION UP. 
          UH, THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          ON PAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2025, THAT'S THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE. 
          YOU HAVE 66 EMERGENCY AND 23 ARRESTS. 
          THAT'S 89. 
          YES, SIR. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST FOR THE EMERGENCY DETENTION TEAM, NOT, NOT THE AGENCY AS A WHOLE. 
          I, I'M, I'M TALKING APPLES TO APPLES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE GOT 89 ARRESTS THAT THIS MDRT DID, AND THE REST OF 'EM WERE NOT ARRESTS. 
          THEY EITHER RESOLVED AT THE SCENE OR 306 OF 'EM LEFT. 
          WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 
          THEY GOT NO SERVICES FROM US. 
          SO INSTEAD OF 900, INSTEAD OF TAKING 1,000,005 DIVIDING BY 920, YOU DIVIDE BY 606 AND YOU GET TO $2,500 PER CONTACT. 
          THAT DART PAID SO FAR THIS YEAR IN 20 26, 20 $500 PER PERSON THAT WE CONTACTED. 
          AND OF THE, AND OF THOSE, WE, WE CONTACTED 25 HAVE BEEN ARRESTED 25 TIMES, 500 VERSUS $2,500 A PIECE. 
          THE, THE NUMBERS DO NOT EQUATE TO THE SAME NUMBER OF ARRESTS. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT ARRESTING MOST OF THESE PEOPLE. 
          MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WE'RE GIVING PAMPHLETS TO, OR WE'RE TALKING 'EM DOWN AND WE'RE ASKING TO LEAVE THE PLANE TO TRAIN. 
          NOBODY HERE IS SAYING EVERY HOMELESS PERSON ON THAT TRAIN NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. 
          WHAT WE'RE ABOUT IS PROVIDING SAFE, CLEAN TRANSPORTATION. 
          WE HAVE A DIFFERENT JOB THAN THE CITIES DO. 
          WE DON'T HAVE SOUP KITCHENS, WE DON'T HAVE SALVATION ARMY. 
          WE ARE HERE TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE ON TRAINS AND BUSES. 
          AND IF WE WANT THEM ON THE TRAINS AND BUSES, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO BE OFF THE TRAINS AND BUSES. 
          SO MY METRO IS NOT WHAT THE CITIES DO. 
          MY METRIC IS, ARE WE MAKING OUR TRAINS SAFER AND MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY ON? AND AT $2,500 A PERSON, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO ALL SORTS OF AVERAGES. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS TO GET SOME PEOPLE TO NOT DO IT. 
          WHEN I'D JUST RATHER HAVE THE OFFICER GET ON THERE FOR T TRESPASS. 
          SORRY, SIR, YOU HAVE TO LEAVE. 
          I KNOW. 
          HE MIGHT GET ON ANOTHER TRAIN TWO TRAINS LATER. 
          I REALIZE THAT WE NEED MORE OFFICERS, MORE F FES, WE NEED TO DISCOURAGE THEM FROM RIDING AS OPPOSED, IN MY JUDGMENT, WE CAN DO IT A LOT CHEAPER THAN $2,500 THE, UH, UH, UH, DECLINED SERVICES. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, NO, I'M, I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S IT. 
          THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST IT. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. BASS? THANK YOU. 
          TWO MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT DART HAS TAKEN A, TAKEN A RISK AND, YOU KNOW, TAKEN ON THIS PROGRAM OVER THE PAST THREE OR SO YEARS, UM, AS AN EXPERIMENT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT SHOWS THAT THIS EXPERIMENT WASN'T REALLY FRUITFUL. 
          UM, WHETHER NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM SAFETY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE MONETARY, UM, I THINK NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, IT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS EXPERIMENT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXPERIMENT. 
          SO IT WAS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENED, BUT I DON'T THINK IT, UH, PROVIDED THE OUTCOME THAT WE WERE HOPING. 
          UM, SO I, I, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE CONTINUATION OF THIS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANKS, CHAIR. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. LOPEZ, TWO MINUTES. 
          UH, CHIEF, DO THE RESPONSE OFFICERS, UH, CAN THEY ISSUE FINES AS WELL? THEY, THEY MAY, THEY MAY WRITE CITATIONS? YES. 
          THEY'RE, THE, THE OFFICERS 
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INSIDE HIS TEAM ARE FULL POLICE OFFICERS, FULLY, UH, AUTHORIZED POLICE OFFICERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MY CONCERN WITH, WITH THIS, UH, APPROACH IS SIMILAR TO, UM, JEFF'S, WHICH IS THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR THE LAST, WHAT, THREE AND A HALF YEARS? YES, SIR. 
          ROUGHLY. 
          OKAY. 
          ABOUT THREE YEARS. 
          WE STARTED ABOUT NOVEMBER, 2023, COMING UP ON THREE YEARS IN NOVEMBER. 
          AND WITH REGARD TO, UM, IF, IF THERE'S A VIOLATION ON A TRAIN OR ON A BUS, UM, I THINK WE'RE CONFLATING THE, THE ARREST NUMBERS, UH, A LITTLE BIT IN THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ARREST, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DOES SOMETHING LIKE AN INVASION OR MARIJUANA ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE TRAIN. 
          RIGHT? I MEAN, HOW MUCH DISCRETION DO THE OFFICERS HAVE? THE, UM, POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, USE OF MARIJUANA IS STILL ILLEGAL IN TEXAS. 
          SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO ENFORCE THAT, BUT ON THE TRAINS, WE ARREST PEOPLE WHO ARE IN POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, A USABLE QUANTITY OF MARIJUANA ON OUR TRAINS. 
          AND SO, UM, AS CITIES DO NOT, SOME CITIES CHOOSE NOT TO ENFORCE THAT. 
          UM, IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR US BECAUSE THEY THINK I'M IN THAT CITY. 
          I CAN GET ON THE TRAIN AND DO WHATEVER I WANT TO. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. 
          BUT YES, WE, WE MAKE LOTS OF ARRESTS FOR, USUALLY FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS. 
          'CAUSE THE AVERAGE PERSON, SOMEBODY LIKE THIS CATEGORY HERE, YOU ASK 'EM TO LEAVE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE. 
          YOU'RE GONNA END UP ARRESTING THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S, SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S PRETTY STRICT LIABILITY. 
          I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE IN POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, YOU'RE TAKING THEM IN. 
          IF IT'S A USABLE QUANTITY, IF THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT IN A PIPE OR SOMETHING, THEIR FINISHER A SMALL, UM, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A ROACH? A SMALL AMOUNT, UH, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE WORTH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'S GONNA COST US TO TEST IT AND SEND IT TO THE LAB. 
          WE'LL WRITE 'EM A DRUG PARAPHERNALIA TICKET. 
          WE SEIZE IT, WE DESTROY IT. 
          BUT IF THEY HAVE A USABLE QUANTITY, IF THEY HAVE A BAGGIE MARIJUANA, THEY'RE GONNA GO TO JAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          I I JUST THINK THAT THE, THE ARREST NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SKEWED HERE IN THAT, UM, THE OFFICERS DO HAVE SOME DISCRETION HERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          THIS IS JUST FOR THE MULTI, WE, WE ARREST OVER 4,000 PEOPLE, UH, LAST YEAR. 
          SO THIS IS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT, SMALL, THE WHOLE GOAL OF THIS IS NOT TO GET TO THAT POINT. 
          THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FAILED TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING WE HAD TO SAY. 
          THEY WOULDN'T LEAVE, THEY WOULDN'T DO ANY, OR THEY WERE SO MENTALLY ILL THAT, THAT THEY SAID THEY HAVE TO GO. 
          WE CAN'T CONNECT THEM TO SOME OTHER SERVICE. 
          THEY HAVE TO GO RIGHT NOW TO MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THE CLINICIAN DETERMINED THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. ELLI, TWO MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          SO CHIEF, JUST TO, TO, UH, GO THROUGH VICE CHAIR ENOCH POINTS. 
          'CAUSE I THOUGHT THOSE WERE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT, UH, VICE CHAIR ENOCH ASKED HOW MANY OF THESE WOULD'VE BEEN ARREST, BUT FOR THE MDRT PROGRAM? UM, IT, IT, IT'S HARD TO TELL ABOUT THE, I MEAN, UH, THE CON THERE, THERE ARE CONNECTIONS THERE TO SERVICES, THE WARM HANDOFF, THAT 1300 AND, UH, 19 OR THE, ALSO THE 1369, ANY OF THOSE 20, WHAT, 2,700? ANY OF THOSE COULD HAVE BEEN ARREST, THOSE TWO CATEGORIES PUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, UH, BUT BECAUSE THEY ACCEPTED SOMETHING OR BECAUSE THEY, OR THEY WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE WHATEVER ISSUE THEY WERE HAVING, OR THEY REFERRED 'EM TO THE WARM HANDOFF, THEN THEY DIDN'T, AND WE, IT DIDN'T RESULT IN AN ARREST. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD HAVE, I, I CAN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR FOR ME TO STAND HERE AND SAY WHICH ONE OF THOSE, WHAT PERCENTAGE THOSE WOULD'VE ENDED UP IN AN ARREST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. 
          'CAUSE I, I THINK THAT IS, UH, A VERY CRITICAL POINT BECAUSE TO VICE CHAIR ENOCH'S POINT, YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF ASSUMING THAT A NUMBER OF THESE CATEGORIES WOULD'VE BEEN ARRESTS, UM, IN THE ABSENCE OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          I'D LOVE TO, TO MAYBE GET MORE NUMBERS ON THAT. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THE BASE PERIOD PRICE IS 1.5 MILLION, CORRECT? FOR TWO YEARS? YES, SIR. 
          SO THAT'S ABOUT 750,000 A YEAR. 
          UM, NO, SORRY, WHAT WAS IT? I THOUGHT IT'S 1,000,530 EACH YEAR. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          IT'S SEVEN 50 A YEAR. 
          THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF 1.5, ANOTHER 1.5 FOR THE FINAL. 
          I SAID CORRECT. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEN, THEN THAT EVEN CHANGES THE MATH MORE BECAUSE IF WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SAY 24 AND 25, THE LAST TWO COMPLETED YEARS, WE AVERAGED ABOUT 2,500 CONTACT FOR ABOUT 750,000. 
          SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT, AS I DID THAT MATH, THAT'S ABOUT 300, UH, PER CONTACT THEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ARREST, BUT SOME WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS COME BACK TO US MAYBE WITH MORE ANALYSIS ABOUT HOW MANY ARRESTS WE'RE PREVENTING AND WHAT THE REAL DIFFERENCES IN OUTCOMES ARE. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, VICE CHAIR ENOCH MADE SOME GOOD POINTS. 
          SUBJECT PROVIDED, RESOURCE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, GONE ON ARRIVAL. 
          THOSE AREN'T GONNA BE ARRESTS. 
          SOME OF THESE MIGHT HAVE BEEN, I THINK, IN, 
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IN REALLY EVALUATING THE BANG FOR THE BUCK AND HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE WE'RE MAKING. 
          IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION. 
          SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE TABLING THIS OR, OR COMING BACK FOR A SHORTER PERIOD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'LL, I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK? WANT? UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY QUESTION, COMMENTS? ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I GOT A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          I, AND I'M GONNA HAVE COMMENTS, SO BEFORE WE GET TO THE MOTION, OKAY. 
          I SEE MR. BIC FIRST ON A THREE MINUTE. 
          WELL, I HAD A MOTION, BUT, OKAY. 
          UH, ANYONE ELSE ON QUESTION OR COMMENTS? MS. JUAN KRAUSE? ONE MINUTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THIS IF WE DON'T, UH, TAKE ACTION TODAY TO, I BELIEVE IT EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          IT WILL EXPIRE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYWAY, SO NOT MOTIONS. 
          UM, SO IF NOT, THEN YOU CAN PUT ME ON FOR THREE. 
          SO IF, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T NOTICED FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, TODAY IS SAFETY AND SECURITY. 
          TODAY IT'S, IT'S THIS ITEM IN PARTICULAR. 
          IT'S OUR, UM, RIDERSHIP NUMBERS. 
          IT'S, UM, THE SAFETY AND SECURITY BRIEFING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, UM, AS WELL. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FRAME THE COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY TO THIS AND NOT SPOIL SOME OF THE THINGS IN, IN, IN, FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. 
          SO WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ALSO THE DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT WE, THAT WE DO HAVE WITH AUSTIN STREET WITH A HUNDRED BEDS, UM, THAT WE PRETTY MUCH ARE AT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UH, WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE 10 BEDS SET ASIDE FOR US THERE. 
          I'M SORRY, 10. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          10 BEDS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, THE FACILITY HAS A HUNDRED, WE HAVE 10. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT OF C AND THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER, UM, NO DIFFERENT THAN IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, NO DIFFERENT. 
          IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT NO DIFFERENT. 
          IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT DART 2.0 AND ALL THE NEW, NEW COOL THINGS, RIGHT? THE SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE AND HOW WE PRIORITIZE OUR FUNDS HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT TO ADDRESS WHERE WE ARE AS, AS AN AGENCY. 
          UM, I REMEMBER AS A KID, 12 YEARS OLD, RIDING FROM AT THE TIME THAT THE, THE RED LINE STOPPED AT PARK LANE STATION GOING ALL THE WAY TO OAK CLIFF AS A 12-YEAR-OLD BY MYSELF. 
          I HAVE, MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER IS 14. 
          I WOULDN'T LET HER WALK DOWN THE STREET AND AROUND A CORNER TODAY ONLY BECAUSE THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED. 
          UM, AND SO, WHAT, BETWEEN F JUST FPOS, TSOS AND DART POLICE, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU ESTIMATE WE'RE SPENDING WITH SALARIES, UM, BENEFITS, UNIFORMS? WHAT WOULD YOU ESTIMATE WE'RE SPENDING ON ON ON THOSE THREE ALONG? UM, OUR TOTAL BUDGET THIS YEAR, ABSORBING THE TSO CONTRACTS ABOUT $70 MILLION, UH, PROJECTED FOR 2027. 
          AND I WOULD SAY 80, 85% OF THAT IS SALARIES. 
          SO JUST NO, IN TOTAL, YES, SIR. 
          F FESS TSOS, SIR, ARE POLICE, WHAT, HOW MUCH YOU, HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING BETWEEN FOR ALL THREE? PROBABLY ABOUT 50, 55 MILLION, I WOULD THINK. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MS. CEO, 'CAUSE YOU DID A STINT THERE THAT'S CLOSE TO, IF NOT LARGER THAN THE BUDGET AT DCTA 50 MILLION? ABOUT THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT  WHAT WE'RE SPENDING HERE JUST TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE NEARLY IS THE ENTIRE BUDGET OF DCTA. 
          AND THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST DCT, BUT THIS IS MY POINT, IS WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DIVERT AWAY FROM SERVICES TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE. 
          AND, AND, AND THIS IS A, ONE OF THE, AND I'M GLAD YOU POINTED OUT, THIS IS ONE STRATEGY. 
          WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OTHER STRATEGIES, UM, UH, HERE IN, IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, THERE IS NO ONE THING SOLVES THE PROBLEM. 
          THE PROBLEM IS VERY COMPLEX. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE, THE NEGATIVITY AROUND IT. 
          IT'S, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE PICKING IT OUT ONE, YOU KNOW, UH, STRATEGY AT A TIME, JUST LIKE CLOSING THE SYSTEM WON'T SOLVE ALL THINGS. 
          JUST LIKE POLICE OFFICERS ON EVERY PLATFORM OR STATION WON'T SOLVE EVERYTHING. 
          THIS IS ONE OF A MULTIFACETED SOLUTION THAT THIS SYSTEM NEEDS. 
          THAT UNFORTUNATELY, AT THE TIME AND POINT AND PLACE THAT WE'RE IN, IN OUR SOCIETY AND THIS CITY AND OUR MULTIPLE CITIES, UM, AND, AND, AND WHERE WE ARE JUST, UH, JUST AS A PEOPLE, WE'RE SPENDING NEARLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT OUR PEER AGENCIES ARE PROVIDING THEIR FULL SERVICE. 
          'CAUSE DCTA DOES NOT HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? NO, THEY DO NOT. 
          TRINA METRO DOES NOT HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, UM, CRIMINAL TRESPASS YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL, DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM TO BOARD A TRAIN OR CAN THAT BE IMPOSED ON THE PLATFORMS TOO? IF, IF THEY'RE ON THE 
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PLATFORM, UH, HE'S ON ANY DARK PROPERTY, WE CAN ARREST HIM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE NEW CAMERAS, RIGHT? AND, AND I THINK PHASE TWO WAS FACIAL RECOGNITION, YOU KNOW? UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE PROGRESS THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE TO STOP THIS? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT HAS TO BE STOPPED. 
          AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, TO BE HOMELESS IS NOT A CRIME. 
          TO BE POOR IS NOT A CRIME. 
          UM, BUT TO IMPOSE OTHER PEOPLE IS, AND, UM, I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE WRITERS. 
          AND, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE DATA. 
          YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE LOSING OR THE DATA AND WHATNOT. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE DECLINING IN RIDERSHIP ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE, UH, IMPOSED ON BY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS? RIGHT. 
          THAT'S A METRIC THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE A RIDERSHIP REPORT. 
          AND WE JUST HAD AN ARTICLE TODAY ABOUT LOSING THOSE NUMBERS. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS ADDRESSING THE ISSUE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE DOING IT TO THE 10, TO THE TUNE OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH. 
          UM, BUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, I THINK, UM, IS, IS A BETTER PLACE THAN WHERE WE WERE. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, BEFORE WE STARTED, THERE WASN'T A NEED FOR IT DIRECT TO BASS. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A DATA SET PRIOR TO, BECAUSE COVID CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR US. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IF, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I BELIEVE SOMEONE HAD A MOTION. 
          I HAD A, I WAS GONNA MOVE TO, I, I THINK I CAN READ THE TEA LEAVES, BUT MY MOTION IS TO TABLE IT, GET MORE INFORMATION. 
          IS THERE A DATE CERTAIN ON THE, ON THE TABLE, SIR? YEAH, I, I CHIEF, I, I WOULD THINK 30 DAYS THAT THE, THE SECOND MEETING FROM THAT, THE NEXT COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE MEETING WOULD BE MY MOTION. 
          WHAT'S THE DATE ON THE, THE NEXT 22ND SEP OF OCTOBER. 
          OH, SEPTEMBER 27TH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SEPTEMBER 22ND. 
          AND I, I DON'T NEED TO PUT IT OFF. 
          TWO MEETINGS. 
          WE CAN DO IT, UH, WHENEVER THE CHAIR, I, I JUST WANT A PERIOD OF TIME TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM THE CHIEF. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA DO ON THE 22ND, THAT'S FINE, SIR. 
          WELL, I DON'T WANNA DO IT AFTER THE 30TH. 
          'CAUSE THE CONTRACT LAPS, I UNDERSTAND THE IOAP, SORRY, LAPS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE 22ND. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I, I, I'M WILLING TO MAKE A SECOND, BUT, UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I GET THE SECOND ON FIRST AND THEN THE COMMENT? WELL, I'M, I'M GONNA AMEND SOMETHING HERE. 
          UM, YEAH, THIS IS A, HOLD ON. 
          WAIT, SIR, I CAN'T HAVE DEBATE ON THE MOTION WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGH. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. MR. HERBA. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          UM, THIS IS A, UM, ONGOING ISSUE. 
          UH, IT WASN'T THAT MANY YEARS AGO THAT IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT, UH, THERE WAS NO COORDINATION ON THIS AND IT JUST REALLY WASN'T A FOCUS. 
          SO I APPRECIATE, UM, THE MEMBER CITIES WORKING TOGETHER AND AT LEAST GETTING SOME FOCUS ON THIS. 
          I THINK WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS IS, UM, NOBODY CAN SOLVE THIS BY THEMSELVES. 
          AND, UH, WE NEED TO POOL AS MANY RESOURCES WE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          UH, I, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE, UM, WE NEED TO ENGAGE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, FOLKS IN THE REGION THAT CAN HELP US WITH THIS. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN EFFORTS IN THE PAST, BUT IT IS A VERY, VERY, UH, COMPLICATED ISSUE. 
          AND, UM, UH, ONE THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, NOT CHEAP HAS, HAS BEEN POINTED OUT. 
          BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THE MOTION OR THE, THE ITEM IN FRONT OF US IS FOR A, A, A BASE TWO YEAR CONTRACT. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO WHAT, UH, MR. ENOCH HAS SUGGESTED BRINGING IT BACK, UH, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU BRING IT BACK WITH AN OPTION FOR A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT. 
          WE HAVE SOME NEW FOLKS ON THE BOARD THAT HAVE FRESH PERSPECTIVES ON THAT. 
          I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. 
          BUT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, UM, IS TO BRING THIS BACK AS A, WITH AN OPTION FOR A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON A MOTION TO, TO TABLE IT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22ND? SAY AN NONE, PLEASE VOTE ON YOUR MACHINE. 
          WHAT WAS THE DATE? 22ND OF SEPTEMBER. 
          OF SEPTEMBER. 
          SEPTEMBER. 
          TWO WEEKS, NOT IN FAVOR OF THREE IN OPPOSITION. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          NEXT 
          [11. Approval of an Amendment to the Interlocal Agreement between Dallas Area Rapid  Transit and the City of Dallas for On-Demand Transportation Service for the Joppa  Neighborhood (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Trenise Winters)]
ITEM IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          FOR ON-DEMAND TRANSPORTATION SERVICE FOR THE JOPPA NEIGHBORHOOD, A WE WELCOME HANS MICHAEL, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          MR. INTERIM, CEO. 
          MY NAME IS HANS MICHAEL RUDO. 
          I'LL BE PRESENTING, COULD YOU LIFT THE MICROPHONE UP JUST A BIT, SIR? SURE. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYBE 
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THAT'S BETTER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO I'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU AN EXTENSION OF AN ACTIVE AGREEMENT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS TO HELP, UH, RESTORE SOME SEVERED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS IN THE, UH, HISTORIC AND RESILIENT COMMUNITY OF JO IN SOUTHEASTERN DALLAS. 
          UH, THE CURRENT AGREEMENT ENDS, UH, IN, IN MARCH, 2027. 
          THIS EXTENSION WOULD TAKE IT TO MARCH, 2020. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE. 
          THAT'S THE NATURE OF THIS, UH, PROGRAM IS A VERY SPECIAL PROGRAM. 
          IT'S NOT DARTS, BREAD AND BUTTER. 
          IT IS, UH, DUE TO THE CONVERSION OF A ROADWAY THAT USED TO ALLOW PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO A FACILITY THAT DOES NOT ALLOW PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. 
          THIS IS LINFIELD ROAD, AND IT ALLOWED, UH, CHOPPY RESIDENTS IN THE NORTH OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO CROSS OVER THE SIX FREIGHT RAIL TRACKS THAT SEPARATED THEM FROM THE REST OF DALLAS TO THE WEST. 
          HOWEVER, LINFIELD, WHEN IT WAS RECONSTRUCTED AS AN ABOVE GRADE FACILITY, WHICH WAS TO DEAL WITH, UM, EASE OF TRAVEL AND ALSO WITH SOME SAFETY CONCERNS. 
          THERE WERE NO PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES INCLUDED IN THAT ABOVE GRADE REPLACEMENT FACILITY. 
          SO THERE'S A, THERE WAS A SEVERANCE OF A PREVIOUS CONNECTION THAT ALLOWED PEDESTRIANS TO MAKE THE SAME TRAVEL AS THE CARS ARE NOW, UH, ALLOWED TO, UH, IN RESPONSE, WELL, AROUND THE SAME TIME, I SHOULD SAY, UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD OFFERED THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, A FUND TO HELP TAKE CARE OF JAPE RESIDENTS MOBILITY DURING THE COURSE OF A, UH, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THIS PROGRAM CAME FROM. 
          JAPE, LIKE I MENTIONED, A VERY SPECIAL PLACE. 
          IT'S ABOUT SIX MILES SOUTHEAST OF DOWNTOWN. 
          THERE'S ABOUT A THOUSAND RESIDENTS. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LOWER, UM, IMAGE THERE. 
          THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH. 
          UH, YOU SEE SOME OF THE, THE PAVEMENT ON THE SIDEWALKS AND THE DRIVEWAYS IS RELATIVELY NEW. 
          UH, SO THEY'VE, THE COMMUNITIES RECEIVED SOME LONG OVERDUE INVESTMENT RECENTLY FROM THE PUBLIC, SO THAT HAS HELPED. 
          UH, BUT IT WAS, UH, IT'S A FREEDMAN'S TOWN, SO IT WAS AN AREA, ONE OF THE FEW AREAS WHERE, UH, FREED SLAVES WERE ALLOWED TO LIVE IN ITS, UH, ORIGIN. 
          SO IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE REST OF THE CITY, AND WE WANT TO KEEP PROVIDING THE CONNECTION THAT WE'VE OFFERED TO, TO THIS POINT. 
          SO HOW DOES IT WORK? THE PROGRAM IS FREE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. 
          THEY HAVE TO REGISTER AND PROVE THAT THEY LIVE THERE. 
          BUT IF THEY DO, THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCESS ANY ONE OF THE NUMBER OF DESTINATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED, UH, UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH THEM, UH, INVOLVED. 
          AT THE SAME TIME, THEY CAN DO IT WITH THEIR LYFT APP, THEY CAN DO IT WITH THEIR UBER APP. 
          THEY CAN CALL IN, AND IF THEY DON'T NEED, IF THEY'RE NOT IN A WHEELCHAIR, THEN THEY CAN JUST USE A REGULAR VEHICLE. 
          BUT IF THEY ARE IN A WHEELCHAIR, WE STILL LIKE TO SERVE THEM. 
          AND SO THEY CAN CALL IN AND THEY CAN GET, GET A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR TRIP FROM JAPE TO THE DESTINATION AND BACK. 
          SO THESE, THE DESTINATIONS, UH, THEY WERE SELECTED UNDER, UNDER THE CITY OF DALLAS DIRECTION, BUT IN COORDINATION WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, OUTREACH EVENTS THAT WE HELD AND TALK, AND PEOPLE THAT WE TALKED TO. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY, CONNECTIONS TO THE DART SYSTEM. 
          THE ONLY OTHER CAVEAT BESIDES THE LIMITATION OF THE DESTINATION IS THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT EACH, UH, REGISTERED PARTICIPANT IS ALLOWED TO MAKE A TRIP DURING A DAY. 
          SO WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE MOVE IN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE MOVE OUT. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE, UH, GET CARS AND SELL CARS AND GO TO COLLEGE DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO THE RIDERSHIP HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT UP AND DOWN, WHICH YOU SEE HERE. 
          UH, THE, UH, THE MAGNITUDE OR THE, UH, LEVEL OF ACTIVITY IN THE PROGRAM IS LOW ENOUGH SUCH THAT, UH, JUST A FEW HOUSEHOLDS MAKING MORE USE OF THE PROGRAM CAN, UH, IMPACT THE NUMBERS. 
          OOPS, I THINK I PRESSED THE WRONG THING. 
          SO, UH, BASED ON THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS RECEIVED TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF ROOM FOR THIS PROGRAM TO BE USEFUL TO THE RESIDENTS, AND WE HOPE IT IS MORE AND MORE USEFUL TO THEM. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY CAME TO US TO ASK PERMISSION FOR THE CURRENT AGREEMENT TO BE EXTENDED THREE MORE YEARS, TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE TO BE CONSTRUCTED, WHICH HAS NOT, UH, HAPPENED YET, BUT ALSO A CHANCE FOR MORE OF THE RESIDENTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY THAT, UH, DART IS PROVIDING THEM. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WILL PAUSE TO ADDRESS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR ANY OTHER ELABORATION YOU'D LIKE ON, ON THE COMMUNITY IN QUESTION OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          MEMBERS QUESTIONS. 
          MR. YOU THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR, HANS. 
          MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, 100% OF THE COSTS ARE BEING PAID FOR BY UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2030. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
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IS THERE SECOND? SECOND. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. BAUCH, SECOND BY, UH, MS. JUAN KRAUS. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M GONNA DO A QUICK ONE JUST BECAUSE, UM, AND I'M GLAD THAT DIRECTOR HERBA POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS A FULLY REIMBURSABLE, UM, GRANT. 
          BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE, THE COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR FOR THOSE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF WHY THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS IMPORTANT, WHY THESE RIDES OVER THE BRIDGE, UM, IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND, UM, THE VEHICULAR BRIDGE, UH, PREVIOUS TO IT, IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE FOUR IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU WILL NOTICE, UM, A LOT OF RAIL, A RAIL YARD AND RAIL ACTIVITIES. 
          UM, PREVIOUS TO THE INCOMING PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND PREVIOUS TO THE VEHICULAR BRIDGE, THERE WAS NO BRIDGE TO THIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IN FACT, HISTORICALLY, IF YOU SEE IN THE FAR DISTANCE DOWNTOWN, UH, DALLAS IS, IS THE SKYLINE IS THERE. 
          UM, WHERE THIS RAIL YARD SITUATED SPECIFICALLY IS, UM, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN RINGLAND BROTHERS WOULD COME TO TOWN AND THEY WOULD TRANSPORT THEIR ANIMALS THROUGH THIS RAIL YARD, UM, OR THROUGH, UH, THE CITIES, UH, THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THIS TRAVELING CIRCUS THROUGH. 
          THIS IS WHERE THOSE, UM, FES DRIVEN ANIMALS WOULD SLEEP EVERY NIGHT AND STINK THE WHOLE COMMUNITY UP. 
          UH, THERE IS MULTIPLE, UM, INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE HARMFUL TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT COMPLETE IT SURROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE DUMP IS DOWN THERE. 
          UM, BUT WHEN TRAINS WOULD BACK UP AS THEY, UH, SEE A FIX RIGHT HERE, UM, EVEN AMBULATORY, AMBULATORY SERVICES COULD NOT GET INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THESE TRAINS BEING BACKED UP. 
          AND PEOPLE HAVE EVEN DIED WAITING ON AMBULANCE SERVICES IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, BEYOND JUST THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR REIMBURSING IT, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF IF THEY WERE NOT REIMBURSING BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL EFFECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON PLACED ON THIS CITY. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY STILL CAN'T GET THIS DAMN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE BUILT FOR THEM. 
          SO IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DITTO. 
          SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE 12 IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO. 
          AND OPPOSITION. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UM, ITEM 13, 14, AND 15 WILL WILL TAKE AS A GROUP ON THE PRESENTATION, BUT THEY WILL HAVE INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          RIGHT? 12. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          OH, HOW COULD I FORGET? 12. 
          THE NEXT ITEM, 
          [12. Approval to Execute Amendments to the Interlocal Agreements between DART  and the Cities of Cockrell Hill, Glenn Heights, and University Park for  Implementation of the Transit Related Improvement Program   (Presenters: Gary Slagel/Kay Shelton)]
, WE COULD HAVE WENT OUT OF ORDER. 
          YOU KNOW, THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE TO APPROVE, UH, APPROVAL TO EXECUTE AMENDMENTS TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN DART AND THE CITY OF ROE HILL, GLEN HEIGHTS AND UNIVERSITY PARK FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF TRANSIT RELATED AND PROVEN PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          KATE SHELTON, CHIEF OF STAFF. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM TODAY TO, UM, ALLOW OUR INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE AMENDMENTS TO THE TRIP ILAS WITH ROE HILL, GLEN HEIGHTS, AND UNIVERSITY PARK SUBJECT TO LEGAL REVIEW. 
          AND THIS WILL BE TO DO TWO THINGS TO MODIFY THE CONTRACT PERIOD, TO ALLOW REIMBURSEMENT TO BE SUBMITTED THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029, AND TO MODIFY SECTION THREE TO AUTHORIZE DART STAFF TO REVIEW AND APPROVE ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IF THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 4 52. 
          AND THIS DATE, THIS NEW DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029 WOULD SUPERSEDE, UM, A NEW DATE THAT WAS ADDED IN THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT ILA RECENTLY OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027 UPON EXECUTION OF THE AMENDED ILA BY THE CITY. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. 
          UM, THE TRIP ILA WAS AUTHORIZED BACK IN 2017 FOR FOUR CITIES. 
          UM, HIGHLAND PARKS ILA WAS TERMINATED WHEN THEY WITHDREW EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          UM, EACH ILA INCLUDES A LIST OF PROJECTS, UM, AND DART BOARD IS, UH, APPROVAL IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THROUGH THAT. 
          ILA, UM, BOTH THE P-T-I-I-L-A AND THE G-M-P-I-L-A THAT WERE RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD ALLOWS DELEGATE THAT TO STAFF TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE PROJECTS AS LONG AS THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH 4 52. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, UM, THE TRIP ILA INITIALLY STATED THAT THE ILA WOULD TERMINATE UPON DART'S FINAL REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PROJECTS. 
          AND IN 2022, WHEN THE BOARD APPROVED THE P-T-I-I-L-A, THERE WAS A SECTION ADDED IN SECTION 8.3 THAT ADDED A TERMINATION DATE FOR THE TRIP PROGRAM. 
          AND, AND STATED THAT CITIES WILL SUBMIT ALL REQUESTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, WHICH IS ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW. 
          UM, AS OF JULY OF 26, UM, UNIVERSITY PARK HAS SPENT MOST OF THEIR MONEY, THERE'RE OVER 99% SPENT, BUT BOTH ROE HILL AND GLEN HEIGHTS DO HAVE REMAINING FUNDS. 
          AND I'LL HAVE A TABLE TO SHOW YOU IN JUST A SECOND. 
          AND AS DAVID LEININGER AND I WERE OUT MEETING WITH CITY MANAGERS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, BOTH GLEN HEIGHTS AND ROE HILL, UM, RECOMMENDED SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BE 
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ABLE TO USE THESE FUNDS AS THEIR SMALLER CITIES, AND THEY DO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADVANCE THEIR PROJECTS. 
          UM, SO AS A RESULT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO, TO DO TWO AMENDMENTS. 
          ONE TO STREAMLINE THE PROJECT APPROVAL PROCESS TO DELEGATE THAT APPROVAL TO STAFF CONSISTENT WITH OUR MORE RECENT AGREEMENTS, AND THEN TO ALLOW THESE SMALLER CITIES SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO COMPLETE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS UNDER THE TRIP. 
          ILA. 
          THERE'S NO NEW FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. 
          ALL OF THAT FUNDING IS CURRENTLY BEING HELD FOR THE CITIES AND THE TRIP ILA PROGRAM ACTUALLY, UH, ENDED IN FY 25. 
          UM, AS BACKGROUND, THESE ARE THE REMAINING FUNDS. 
          YOU CAN SEE COCKRELL HILL IS ABOUT 74% SPENT. 
          SO THEY HAVE ABOUT 440,000 LEFT, AND THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE THAT WITH SOME OF THE NEW GMP FUNDS THAT THEY'RE GETTING. 
          GLEN HEIGHTS IS ONLY 41% SPENT, SO THEY HAVE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION LEFT. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, UNIVERSITY PARK IS OVER 99% SPENT. 
          AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS RTC FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED TO HELP THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. 
          SO THAT FUNDING IS STILL BEING HELD AS WELL FOR THE CITIES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT OF THE TROOP ILA FOR TWO THINGS, TO MODIFY THE CONTRACT PERIOD THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 29, AND THEN, UM, ALLOW STAFF TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE ADDITION OF PROJECTS AND THAT THIS NEW DATE WOULD SUPERSEDE THE P-T-I-I-L-A SECTION, UM, UPON EXECUTION BY THE CITY. 
          AND THAT'S ALL. 
          HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? CHAIR SCHLEGEL FOR A MOTION I WOULD MOVE, BE APPROVED. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CHAIR SCHLEGEL SECOND BY MR. WEST. 
          IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. 
          TWO VOTES. 
          LISTEN, TWO 12 IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOW 
          [Items 13 - 15]
ITEMS 13, 14, AND 15 WILL BE TAKEN AS A GROUP, BUT THE MOTIONS WILL BE INDIVIDUAL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMIE ALMAN, EVP AND CFO. 
          I AM GOING TO TURN OVER TO DR. JULIA SMITH TO WALK US THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. 
          HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          JULIA SMITH, VICE PRESIDENT, CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER TIRA OF APPROVAL OF CONTRACT FOR MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE CONTRACTS. 
          TODAY'S CONSIDERATION, THREE ITEMS 13, 14, AND 15. 
          MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $11.9 MILLION. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS A MICROSOFT AZURE CLOUD SERVICES CONTRACT FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, $1.3 MILLION. 
          AND THE THIRD IS MICROSOFT SQL SERVER DATABASE LICENSES FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $765,157. 
          THE ENTERPRISE, UH, ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE AT DART, IT IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT ACROSS ALL THREE LICENSES. 
          THE, UH, CONTRACTS THAT I MENTIONED, DART'S, MICROSOFT ECOSYSTEM. 
          IT SUPPORTS THE ENTIRE, UH, DART, UH, ENVIRONMENT, THE, UH, DART USERS AS WELL AS, UH, OUR CLOUD SERVICES. 
          SO THESE PRODUCTS UNDERPIN OUR EMPLOYEE PRODUCTIVITY AND COLLABORATION ENVIRONMENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTERPRISE. 
          OUR ENTERPRISE APPLICATIONS, DATA PLATFORMS, AND CORE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT, ALONG WITH SECURITIES, VERY, UH, COMPREHENSIVE. 
          OUR SQL SERVER ENVIRONMENT, UH, AN AZURE ENVIRONMENT SUPPORTS, UH, DART, UH, IN A CLOUD-BASED ENVIRONMENT. 
          AS WELL AS, UH, OUR, UH, DATABASE ENVIRONMENT. 
          VERY POWERFUL BOTH ENVIRONMENTS. 
          THE, PARTICULARLY THE SQL SERVER ENVIRONMENT ALLOWS US TO SCALE, UH, UP. 
          WE'VE DONE, UH, AN EXTENSIVE ASSESSMENT, UH, ACROSS, UH, THESE ENVIRONMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE UTILIZING AND SCALING, UH, UH, APPROPRIATELY WITHOUT OVER, OVER, UH, OVER SCALING. 
          SO WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF USAGE HERE, AND IT'S USED IN THE AGENCY ACROSS APPLICATIONS SUCH AS LAWSON, UH, OUR FAIR BOXES, OUR REAL TIME, UH, FEEDS, AS WELL AS, UH, TRANSIT MASTER AND, UH, OUR INFO STATION, WHICH IS OUR INTRANET. 
          SO OUR COLLECTIVE SAVINGS, UH, OVER THE THREE YEARS, THE, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE INCREASES, UH, FOR OUR LAST CONTRACT TO THIS CURRENT TRACK, CURRENT CONTRACT, UH, REQUESTS, MICROSOFT HAS INCREASED AT 1.7, UH, MILLION DOLLARS, ALMOST, UH, $1.8 MILLION, UH, ACROSS THE TERM. 
          AND SO COMPARABLE TO THE, UH, COMPETITIVE MARKET VERSUS THE TEXAS DIAR, WE'RE SAVING NEARLY $900,000 ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS TO AUTHORIZE OUR INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE, UH, UH, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, EXCUSE ME, TO AWARD THREE, THREE YEAR CONTRACTS TO SHI INTERNATIONAL LLC. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS THE MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT FOR 11.9 MILLION. 
          THE SECOND IS THE MICROSOFT AZURE CLOUD SERVICES CONTRACT FOR 
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1.3 MILLION. 
          AND THE THE THIRD IS THE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT SQL SERVER DATABASE ENVIRONMENT CONTRACT FOR $765,157. 
          UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MEMBERS QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY, I'M GONNA TAKE A MOTION FOR MR. ELLI ON ITEM 13. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY, JUST MAKE THE COMPUTER FROZE UP. 
          WELL, MR. RICKARD, IF I COULD JUST ASK, JUST MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT. 
          DON'T MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. 
          JUST MAKE THE, OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL DO, MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT. 
          WILL DO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          SO, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM, UH, ADDING THE WORD SUBJECT TO LEGAL REVIEW INTO THE ITEM SO THAT, UH, THE POINTS THAT MR. GOMEZ HAS, UH, ARTICULATED IN HIS EMAIL TO US THIS MORNING CAN BE ADDED AFTER BOARD APPROVAL. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          AND SECOND, YOU MIGHT NEED TO CLARIFY 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          MR. GOMEZ, COULD YOU READ JUST INTO THE RECORD OR ADD WHATEVER CONTEXT YOU WANT TO THIS PLEASE? UH, YES. 
          THANK YES, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I'LL READ IT. 
          THE RESOLUTION'S. 
          GONNA READ THE, UH, THE DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, AT THE INTERIM OF PRESIDENT, CHIEF EXHIBITOR OFFICERS, THE DESIGNEE IS AUTHORIZED TO AWARD A THREE YEAR CONTRACT FOR A MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT TO SHI INTERNATIONAL LLC. 
          SUBJECT TO LEGAL REVIEW FOR A TOTAL AUTHORIZED AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED 11.9 MILLION. 
          OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. RICKARD DAILY, SECONDED BY CHAIR SLAGEL. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NINE, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MISSING ONE. 
          VOTE. 
          MISSING ONE. 
          YOU GOT MORE GONE? OKAY, LET'S CALL IT 11 IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO. 
          AND OPPOSITION OF MOTIONS PASSES. 
          UH, CAN I GET A MOTION ON 14, PLEASE? APPROVAL OF CONTRACT FOR MICROSOFT AZURE CLOUD SERVICES. 
          SO MOVED. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED THERE. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. WEST. 
          SECOND BY MR. GRADY. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE 12 IN FAVORS HERE IN OPPOSITION. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES AND TOOK A MOTION ON 15 APPROVAL OF CONTRACT FOR MICROSOFT SQL SERVER DATABASE LICENSE. 
          SO MOVED. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. ELLI. 
          SECOND AND SECOND BY MR. WEST. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE WITH, UM, 11. 
          WITH THE 11 IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION. 
          AND MOTION PASSES. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS, UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION, UM, AND DISCUSSION, I'M SURE. 
          SO WE'LL RECESS TILL 3 45. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S NOW 4:02 PM AND WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. 
          WELL, UH, CAMERA'S ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IT IS NOW 4:03 PM AND WE ARE BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. 
          WE'LL PICK, OH, I'M SORRY, WE'RE BACK FROM RECESS. 
          WE'LL PICK UP 
          [16. Approval of Fiscal Year 2027 Annual Budget  ]
ON ITEM 16, THE APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 2027, ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          WE'LL, WELCOME BACK. 
          JAMIE DELMAN. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, I'M GONNA TURN 
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THIS PRESENTATION OVER TO SANO EDO AND HE WILL WALK US THROUGH IT AND THEN WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THE END. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR STUDENT NOVO, A VP OF FINANCIAL PLANNING AND ANALYSIS. 
          UH, SO HERE WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL PLANNING CALENDAR, UH, WHERE TODAY WE'LL BE SEEKING APPROVAL, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CONSIDERATION OF THE FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET IN 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          AND OUR SEPTEMBER 22ND, WE'LL BE SEEKING THE BOARD CONSIDERATION OF THE FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET AND 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          TODAY'S ITEM IS AN ACTION ITEM, UH, WHERE STAFF IS SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,842,570,010. 
          UH, THAT BREAKS DOWN AS OPERATING $797,735,106 CAPITAL, AND ON OPERATING $817,457,084 AND DEBT SERVICE, 227,000,002 $77,820. 
          ALSO, STAFF IS SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FY 20 27 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          SO DURING THIS YEAR'S, UH, BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, UH, STAFF HAS RECEIVED MULTIPLE REQUESTS FROM THE BOARD. 
          UH, WE HAVE CAPTURED THOSE REQUESTS IN THE FOLLOWING FOUR SLIDES, INCLUDING THE BOARD REQUESTS, STAFF'S RESPONSE, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          THE FIRST ITEM LISTED IS THE REQUEST TO MOVE CUSTOMER SERVICE TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, STAFF'S RESPONSE IS THAT THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND HIERARCHY ARE THE PURVIEW OF THE CEO. 
          UH, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT STAFF CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COST CENTER DETAIL, UH, TO CLARIFY THE, THE ROLE CUSTOMER SERVICE PLAYS WITHIN THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT. 
          WE CAN ADD THAT INFORMATION TO THE BUSINESS PLAN. 
          UH, THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          THE NEXT LINE ITEM, UH, ELIMINATE THE $1.988 MILLION MANAGEMENT RESERVE. 
          UH, STAFF'S RESPONSE IS THAT THE CEO HAS HISTORICALLY HAD A RESERVE RANGE FROM 500 K TO A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          INCREASINGLY, RESERVE GIVES THE INCOMING CEO DISCRETION TO EVALUATE THE AGENCY'S PRIORITIES AND EXECUTE INNOVATIVE IDEAS. 
          UH, THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE CEO CONTINGENCY FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT WAS MADE BY THE INTERIM CEO BEFORE A CANDIDATE WAS APPROVED. 
          AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS NO ACTION REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. 
          THE NEXT, UH, REQUEST WAS THE, TO FUND THE ENTIRE COST OF THE LEGACY AREA CIRCULATOR SHUTTLE IN PLANO. 
          STAFF'S RESPONSE IS THAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET MAINTAINS THE SERVICE LEVELS APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND FY 2026, SO NO ADDITIONS AND NO REDUCTIONS. 
          UH, WE EXPECT TO DISCUSS SERVICE ADJUSTMENTS IN ANTICIPATION OF FY 2028. 
          SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS NO ACTION RECOMMENDED THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, THE NEXT, UH, REQUEST REALLOCATE SERVICES TO FUND A SINGLE CITYWIDE GOAL ZONE IN PLANO. 
          AGAIN, STAFF'S RESPONSE IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET MAINTAINS THE SERVICE LEVELS APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN FR 2026. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS NO ACTION RECOMMENDED, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          NEXT, UH, WE HAVE THE REQUEST, UH, FOR THE BOARD REQUIRE THE BOARD APPROVAL FOR MID-YEAR HIRING OF POSITIONS FUNDED AT 50%. 
          STAFF'S RESPONSE IS HIRING DECISIONS WITHIN THE BOARD APPROVED BUDGET APPROPRIATION OR ATHLETE DISCRETION OF THE CEO PER CHAPTER 4 52. 
          UH, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS NO ACTION REQUIRED. 
          UH, NEXT, UH, THE REQUEST IS TO IMPLEMENT HISPANIC AND LATINO TARGETED MARKETING IN FY 2027. 
          UH, THERE IS FUNDING FOR THIS INITIATIVE THAT CAN BE, BE ACHIEVED THE REALLOCATION OF EXISTING MARKETING RESOURCES IN FY 2027. 
          SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS USE THE EXISTING RESOURCES AND NO CHANGE REQUIRED. 
          NEXT, THE FUNDING, UH, REQUEST FOR A RESEARCH COORDINATOR, UH, STAFF RESPONSES, UH, IS THAT THE FY 2027 BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT MANAGER. 
          THIS RESOURCE WILL EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW REVENUE STREAMS THROUGH TOD VALUE CAPTURE IN OTHER AREAS. 
          UH, THIS POSITION, ALONG WITH RESEARCH ANALYSTS AND FINANCE AND SERVICE PLANNING, CAN BE LEVERAGED TO GENERALLY SATISFY THIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          UH, SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION, NO ACTION REQUIRED. 
          THE FINAL TWO REQUESTS, UH, IS TO, ONE REQUEST IS TO PURCHASE THE UP AN UPDATED AUDIT SOFTWARE AND ADD STAFF RESOURCES. 
          UH, SO STAFF'S RESPONSE IS THAT THE FUNDING FOR THIS INITIATIVE CAN BE ACHIEVED THROUGH REALLOCATION OF EXISTING RESOURCES IN FR 2027. 
          AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS USED, THE EXISTING RESOURCES AND NO CHANGES REQUIRED. 
          AND THE FINAL REQUEST IS ELABORATE. 
          A LOBBY IMPROVEMENTS AT HEADQUARTERS, UH, STAFF'S RESPONSES THAT THIS CAN BE ACHIEVED USING THE 18.6 MILLION FOR HEADQUARTER RENOVATIONS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO USE EXISTING RESOURCES AND NO CHANGES REQUIRED ON AUGUST 27TH, 
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EXCUSE ME, STAFF, UH, PRESENTED TO THE SERVICE AREA CITIES, THE PROPOSED FR 2027 BUDGET AND A FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          AND ALSO STAFF, UH, PRESENTED, UH, AND GET A DEMONSTRATION OF THE NEW RIDERSHIP DASHBOARD, WHICH WENT LIVE ON AUGUST 31ST. 
          UH, SO FOR THE DASHBOARD STAFF RECEIVED OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE RESPONSES FROM THE SERVICE AREA. 
          CITIES REGARDING THE DASHBOARD AND STAFF ALSO RECEIVED, UH, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERED SATISFACTORILY. 
          UH, DURING THE BRIEFING. 
          UH, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE LISTED HERE. 
          I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM, BUT THE QUESTIONS, UH, DID NOT CALL FOR ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET OR THE FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          HERE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED FY 2027 BUDGET, AND YOU CAN SEE THE THREE BUDGET LINE ITEMS THAT ARE ANNUALLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD. 
          UH, GOING DOWN THE LIST, WE HAVE THE OPERATING AT 7 9, 7 0.7 MILLION, WHICH IS A 5.3% INCREASE, UH, CAPITAL AND NON-OPERATING 8 1 7 0.5 MILLION, WHICH IS A 1.6%, UH, DECREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          UH, JUST ONE, ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING IS THE LINE ITEM THAT, UH, THE GMP IS FULLY FUNDED, UH, IN BOTH THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          UH, DEBT SERVICE AT 2 27 0.4 MILLION, WHICH IS A 1.8% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF 1.8 BILLION, WHICH IS A 1.7% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          OUR COVERAGE RATIOS ARE, ARE REALLY GOOD. 
          LOOKING AT OUR EXTERNAL COVERAGE RATIO, UH, WHICH IS, UH, FOR OUR EXTERNAL MARKETS, UH, THAT IS A TWO TIMES REQUIREMENT. 
          THAT MATH IS THE TOTAL ANNUAL SALES TAX DIVIDED BY THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE. 
          UH, AND WITH US BEING AT 4.29, THAT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY BUILT INTO THE FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          UH, THE INTERNAL COVERAGE RATIO, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE AT ONE TIMES, UH, THAT JUST MEASURES OUR RECURRING REVENUES AGAINST OUR RECURRING EXPENSES AND US BEING AT 1.53, A REALLY HEALTHY INTERNAL COVERAGE RATIO. 
          A FEW THINGS TO NOTE, UH, THE FINANCIAL PLAN IS STRUCTURALLY BALANCED, MEANING THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH SOURCES IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, TO COVER THE USES AND ALSO THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCIAL PLAN COMPLY WITH ALL THE BOARD APPROVED FINANCIAL STANDARDS. 
          HERE WE HAVE THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR FY 2027, UH, JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST. 
          SALES TAX REVENUES. 
          UH, SO THAT IS, THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT 70% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE BUDGET, AND THAT'S THE LION'S SHARE OF THE REVENUE BUDGET. 
          UH, SO LAST YEAR WE ASSUMED A 0% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          AND WE DO RECEIVE UPDATES FROM OUR ECONOMIST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          AND THAT ECONOMISTS PROJECTED A FOUR TO 5% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          WE LANDED AT 3%. 
          AND WE TYPICALLY ARE MORE MODEST THAN OUR ECONOMISTS. 
          OPERATING REVENUES, WHICH IS PRIMARILY FAIR REVENUES, UH, THAT'S DECLINING BY 3.3 MILLION OVER YEAR, AND THAT'S DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY DECLINING RIDERSHIP. 
          UH, JUST ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT FY 2027 IS THE FIRST FULL YEAR OF THE, UH, SERVICE REDUCTIONS THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED IN FY 2026. 
          INTEREST INCOME, THAT IS JUST A REFLECTION OF OUR CASH BALANCES AND THE FORMULA FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          UH, THOSE, THAT'S OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, OUR 5 3 0 7 5 3 3 7. 
          UH, SO WE DO RECEIVE AN ALLOTMENT FROM THE FT FROM THE FTA OF 120 MILLION PER YEAR. 
          UH, SO WHAT YOU SEE IS REALLY A RESULT OF TIMING, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE THINK WE WILL DRAW DOWN THOSE FUNDS. 
          THE SAME THING FOR DISCRETIONARY FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY MORE OF A RESULT OF TIMING. 
          AND THE PROJECTS THAT REFLECT HERE ARE THE BUS PROCUREMENT AND, UH, THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, UH, THE OTHER OPERATING AND OTHER CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          THIS IS A RESULT OF OUR PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH TRINITY METRO FOR THAT PORTION OF THE TRE, UH, WITH DALLAS FOR THEIR FUNDING OF THE STREETCAR AND THE, THE, UH, FOR THE CITIES, UH, THEIR COMMITMENT, UH, TO THE BETTERMENTS FOR THESE, FOR THE CIVIL LINE. 
          SO OUR INCREASE OF 4.1% YEAR OVER YEAR, THAT'S DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY SALES TAX REVENUES AND THE TIMING ON THE FORMULA. 
          FEDERAL FUNDING HERE, WE DO HAVE SOME INCREASES IN OUR HEADCOUNT YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          UH, YOU SEE THE BUST AND LIGHT RAIL OPERATORS INCREASE SLIGHTLY. 
          AND THEN NON OPERATOR HOURLY, UH, THAT REPRESENTS A INCREMENTAL EIGHT LIGHT RAIL MECHANICS AND 12 WORKERS IN CHARGE. 
          AND THOSE WORKERS IN CHARGE PROVIDE FLAGGING AND PROTECTION SERVICES, UH, FOR OUR RIGHT OF WAY WORKERS. 
          UH, LOOKING AT ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE SIX CONTINGENT POSITIONS IN AGENCY AND SAFETY. 
          AND ALSO WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS IN POLICE. 
          UH, ONE FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICER LEAD, ONE FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SUPERVISOR, ONE CASE FILER, AND ALSO ONE CONTINGENCY POSITION. 
          UH, ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, YOU WILL SEE TWO ADDITIONAL HEADCOUNTS, AND THAT IS TO SATISFY THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, UH, FOR AUDIT. 
          WE DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT FOR FY 2027, WE'RE PROPOSING NO SERVICE CHANGES, UH, FOR THE FISCAL 
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YEAR. 
          AND, AND AS YOU KNOW, IN FY 2026, WE DID HAVE SOME, A REDUCTION, SOME ROUTE REDUCTIONS IN BUS AND ALSO SOME FREQUENCY ADJUSTMENTS IN BUS AND LIGHT RAIL. 
          AND WE PLAN TO MAINTAIN THOSE SURFACE LEVELS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR OF FFR 2027 LAST YEAR DURING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT CYCLE. 
          UH, WE DID HAVE SOME PLANNED OPERATING GROWTH AREAS FOR FFR 2027, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PLANNED GROWTH COLUMN. 
          UH, SO GOING DOWN THE LIST, WE DID HAVE SOME PLANNED WAGE GROWTH. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS, UH, PARATRANSIT, UH, AND GOLINK. 
          UH, WE HAD SOME CONTRACT INCREASES THERE AND ALSO SOME CONTRACT INCREASES IN SILVER LINE AND TRE, SOME ADDITIONAL CONTRACT INCREASES FOR TECHNOLOGY AND SOME OTHER SMALL INCREASES, WHICH WAS A $23.5 MILLION INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          UH, DURING THIS YEAR'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT S CYCLE, WE IDENTIFIED SOME ADDITIONAL INCREASES. 
          UH, LOOKING AT PERRAS GOAL LINK THAT'S DRIVEN BY ADDITIONAL RIDERSHIP, THAT'S ALSO DRIVEN BY THE INCREASED USAGE OF TNCS. 
          AND THE ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL GOAL LINK ZONES FOR PLANO, UH, FOR POLICE. 
          UH, THAT REPRESENTS THE MOVEMENT OF THE TSL CONTRACT COMING FROM KAPLAN NINE OPERATING OVER TO OPERATING. 
          UH, SO THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED IN THE RIDERSHIP IMPROVEMENT FUNDS IN NON-OPERATING WITH THE SUCCESS OF THAT PILOT PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS MOVING OVER TO OPERATING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS THE RECURRING, UH, RESOURCES THAT IT NEEDS. 
          UH, THEN OF COURSE, UH, WITH THE RISING COSTS OF SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE CONTRACTS, THAT WAS FACTORED INTO THE FA INTO THE PLAN AS WELL. 
          UH, WHICH LEADS TO A TOTAL INCREASE OF 39.8 MILLION FOR A TOTAL PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET OF 7 9 7 0.7 MILLION. 
          HERE WE HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, PLAN, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF THE FINANCIAL PLAN OF THE KAPLAN AND OPERATING LINE. 
          AND THIS IS BROKEN DOWN BY MODE. 
          LOOKING AT AGENCY WIDE. 
          UH, THIS INCLUDES, UH, PROJECTS LIKE, UH, TECHNOLOGY, UH, AGENCY WIDE TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS, UH, ROOF REPLACEMENT FOR HEADQUARTERS AND OTHER NON MODAL SPECIFIC, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR BUS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT STARTS TO DECLINE AS WE COMPLETE OUR BUS PROCUREMENT, UH, LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT THAT PICKS UP AS WE START TO BEGIN TO TRANSFORM OUR SYSTEM MODERNIZATION SPECIFICALLY, UH, PLATFORM LEVEL BOARDING, ADDITIONAL LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES AT THE UNIFIED SIGNAL SYSTEM, UH, FOR COMMUTER RAIL AS WE START TO COMPLETE, UH, THE HIGH AND BACK TRAIL IN SILVER LINE AT AROUND 98 BILLION. 
          AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME TRE PROJECTS IN HERE AS WELL. 
          UH, THE DOUBLE TRACKING FOR NOBLE BRANCH, UH, THAT'S ABOUT 48 MILLION, AND THEN ALSO 32 MILLION FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES. 
          UH, WE, WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED AT THE GMP. 
          SO OVER THE FIVE YEAR, UH, VIEW HERE, UH, WE ESTIMATE TO SPEND ABOUT 379 MILLION AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES 75 MILLION FROM N-C-T-C-O-G. 
          AND THAT IS ALSO REPRESENTED ON THE REVENUE SIDE AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, TONIGHT, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FY 2027 ANNUAL BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,842,570,010, OPERATING $797,735,106 KAPLAN, AND OPERATING AT $817,457,084. 
          AND DEBT SERVICE $227,377,820. 
          AND ALSO THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FY 20 27 20 A FINANCIAL PLAN AS WELL. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO PAUSE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          MEMBERS QUESTIONS, MAYOR STOW FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          UM, ON THE TRE AND THE SILVER LINE INCREASES, DO WE HAVE THAT BROKE OUT? HOW MUCH IS FOR THE TRE AND HOW MUCH IS FOR THE SILVER LINE? WE DO HAVE THAT. 
          WE COULD PROVIDE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST, UH, WANT TO KIND OF KEEP SOME OF THIS STUFF AS SEPARATED AS WE, AS WE COMPARE RIDERSHIP AND DOLLARS SPENT ON THE TWO FOR, FOR WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          UM, THE OTHER, WELL, MOST OF THIS STUFF I'LL TALK ABOUT LATER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE, MR. GRADY? THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          I'M THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK. 
          SO READING THROUGH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT. 
          NONE OF IT IS CRITICISM, JUST TRYING TO FEEL MY WAY THROUGH THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE SEE THAT THERE'S A, A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF $1.8 BILLION THAT'S GOING TO BE SPENT ABOUT 1.4, LITTLE BIT NORTH OF $1.4 BILLION. 
          THAT IS REVENUE ON THE SYSTEM. 
          THAT LEAVES A DELTA OF ABOUT 400 MILLION. 
          I'M GUESSING THAT DELTA IS MADE UP BY ISSUANCE OF A, OF A BOND OF SOME SORT. 
          UM, SO THAT WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET AS THE, UH, AS THE DOCUMENT STIPULATES. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT IF 
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I GOT THAT RIGHT, I, I THINK WE'RE OKAY. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR, IT KIND OF STROLLS OVER IN THE NEXT SUBJECT, BUT IT NOT, IT DOESN'T, UM, ARE WE PLANNING ON DOING A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE OF OUR ROLLING STOCK IN 2027? 'CAUSE IT APPEARED THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPENT, UM, IS, UH, PROCUREMENT OF ALMOST 84% OF OUR ROLLING STOCK. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO, UH, IN TWO FRONTS REALLY. 
          SO WE ARE CURRENTLY REPLACING OUR BUS ROLLING STOCK, OUR 40 FOOT AND 30, UH, 30 FOOT BUSES. 
          AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SOLICITATION ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW FOR THE PURCHASE OF 53 WITH SOME OPTIONS, LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES. 
          SO THAT IS A LARGE CHUNK OF THE CAPITAL ACTIVITY PLAN FOR FY 27, ALONG WITH WHAT WE CALL DART TRANSFORM. 
          IT'S REALLY, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS KIND OF THAT MOVE TOGETHER OR MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. 
          SO LRB UH, REPLACEMENT, IT'S LEVEL BOARDING AT OUR STATION. 
          SO RAISING THE PLATFORMS AT OUR STATIONS FOR LEVEL BOARDING. 
          IT'S A UNIFIED SIGNALING SYSTEM FOR ALL OF OUR LIGHT RAIL LINES. 
          ONE OF OUR, A COUPLE OF OUR LINES HAVE A SIGNALING SYSTEM THAT'S 30 YEARS OLD. 
          UH, THE OTHER LINES HAVE A SIGNALING SYSTEM THAT'S 15 YEARS OLD. 
          SO BRINGING THAT ALL TOGETHER. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UH, MAINTENANCE FACILITY MODIFICATIONS TO PREPARE FOR NEW VEHICLES. 
          SO YES. 
          AND YOU WERE CORRECT IN YOUR FIRST QUESTION AS WELL. 
          THE DIFFERENCE IS, UH, DEBT ISSUANCE BASED ON TIMING AND CASH FLOW WHEN NEEDED FOR PROJECTS. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IT'S PROBABLY A DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON HERE, BUT, UM, IT APPEARS THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS WE'RE ISSUING DEBT AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE'RE NOT ISSUING ANY DEBT. 
          AND I FOUND THAT ODD. 
          YEAH, IT REALLY COINCIDES WITH THE TIMING. 
          WE TRY TO ISSUE DEBT WHEN WE HAVE LONG LIFE ASSETS THAT, THAT WE'RE ACQUIRING OR THAT WE ARE CONSTRUCTING. 
          SO THE TIMING OF THE DEBT ISSUANCE IS GONNA CORRESPOND TO THE LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES THAT HAVE A 30 YEAR LIFE, THE UNIFIED SIGNALING SYSTEM, THE STATION MODIFICATIONS THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY A LONG-TERM PROJECT. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OVERNIGHT. 
          AND I'M SURE TREY WALKER CAN GO OVER IN MUCH MORE DETAIL WITH YOU WHAT THAT PROGRAM REALLY LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE BACK WAY OFF OF ANY KIND OF DEBT ISSUANCE UNTIL WE GET BACK INTO THEN VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AGAIN FOR THE BUSES IN LIKE A 12 TO 15 YEAR TIMEFRAME FROM NOW. 
          WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE BUSES THAT WE REPLACE? SO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE DO ACTUALLY, RIGHT. 
          NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE AUCTION THEM OFF MM-HMM . 
          AND THE FTA TELLS US THAT WE MUST AUCTION THEM OFF. 
          WE GET TO KEEP THE FIRST $5,000 AND THEN ANYTHING AFTER THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE BACK TO THE FTA. 
          UM, WE'RE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE OLYMPICS COMING IN TWO YEARS. 
          SO WE ARE DISCUSSING WITH LA AND OKLAHOMA, UM, DONATING SOME OF OUR OLDER BUSES TO THEM. 
          THEY STILL NEED TO BE IN LIKE, SOMEWHAT LIKE DECENT WORKING CONDITION BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM FOR THE OLYMPICS. 
          UH, BUT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY COORDINATING ALL OF THAT WITH THE FT A TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RUN AFOUL OF ANY FTA RULES. 
          UM, BUT GENERALLY WE AUCTION THEM OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT. 
          UM, I DON'T SEEING ONE, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS NOT CYBER MOTION, RIGHT? THIS IS YOUR QUESTION? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM ME THEN. 
          SO, AND THIS IS, I MEAN, WE HAVE A FEW BOARD MEMBER, NEW BOARD MEMBERS, AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THIS FIRST PART OF IT, SO, UH, CHAPTER 4 52 REQUIRES THAT DART APPROVES AND RELEASES OUR BUDGET FOR A 30 DAY PERIOD. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S FOR ANYONE TO VIEW, BUT SPECIFICALLY IT'S FOR OUR CITY SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW OUR CITY LEADERSHIP. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO JUST RELEASING THE BUDGET TO THE CITIES, UM, OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM HAS MET EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP WITH THE CITIES OR OFFERED AN INVITATION TO DO THAT, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HAVE WE RECEIVED AS AN AGENCY ANY SPECIFIC REQUESTS FOR CHANGES TO THE BUDGET FROM ANY OF OUR CITIES DIRECTLY FROM THE CITIES? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OVER AND ARE WE, HAVE WE CONCLUDED THE THIRD DAY PERIOD OR ARE WE STILL WITHIN THE WINDOW? WE'RE STILL WITHIN THE WINDOW. 
          WE OFFICIALLY RELEASE ON AUGUST 11TH, SO WE ARE STILL TECHNICALLY DAY WITHIN THE WINDOW UNTIL ABOUT MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT IN THE MEETING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITIES, THERE WERE NO, THERE WERE NO, THERE WERE NO REQUESTS FROM THE CITIES TO AMEND THE BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS, UM, THE, THE GMP IS FULLY FUNDED. 
          YES. 
          KUDOS TO YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, THERE ARE NO SERVICE 
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REDUCTIONS NEW, NO NEW SERVICE REDUCTIONS IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, IN FISCAL 27? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THERE IS NO EITHER RECOUPING OF REVENUES IN ANY NEW FAIR INCREASES. 
          I KNOW WE HAD THE PARATRANSIT, YOU KNOW, 50 CENT ISSUE, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY NEW FA INCREASES OR AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL RECOMMENDATION, THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO FAIR INCREASES, NO NEW FAIR INCREASES IN FISCAL 27? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO E ENCOURAGE OUR, MY COLLEAGUES TO, TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET AS IS. 
          I THINK WHEN WE START THIS CONVERSATION. 
          THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN PARTICULAR THAT, UM, HAD, I HAD HAD, I HAVE MORE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT, THAT I WOULD BE PROBABLY IN SUPPORT OF. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE NEXT BRIEFINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH, SPECIFICALLY ON SAFETY AND SECURITY, UM, WHICH IN MY VIEW IS GONNA BE THE ACTUAL PERSONNEL THAT'S THEMSELVES AS WELL AS CLOSING THE SYSTEM. 
          I JUST DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'VE ALL BEEN DISCUSSING IT AND, AND I LOOK FORWARD IN 20 YEAR, UH, FINANCIAL PLAN, NEXT BUDGET SEASON TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO BRING BACK. 
          UM, BUT THOSE WILL BE MY CONTINUAL PRIORITIES, UH, AS A BOARD MEMBER AND AS CONTINUING AS THE BOARD CHAIR, UM, THAT IN, IN, IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE LOOK TO. 
          UM, AND, AND GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER, UM, UH, ANALYZE THE DATA OF THE PROGRAMS AND, AND THAT WE, THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE AND THE POLICIES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE AND HOPEFULLY, UM, IMPROVE UPON THEM WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS TOWARDS SAFETY AND SECURITY ON THE SYSTEM. 
          BUT THEN ULTIMATELY ON, ON A VERY LARGE A HUNDRED MILLION, MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLAR POSSIBLE PROGRAM FOR, UM, GATING THE SYSTEM, WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS, UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN OUR NEXT, IN OUR OCTOBER BRIEFING. 
          AND SO, UM, COULD, COULD YOU REAL QUICKLY GO TO PAGE 11, UM, AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE MY TIME. 
          UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I'M SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT COULD YOU JUST GET TO ME, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ROUTES THAT ARE PEAK MIDDAY AND OFF PEAK? AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHERE, WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I GET MESSAGES THAT ALL, ALL YOUR ROUTES ARE 30 MINUTES OR 40 MINUTES. 
          I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW MANY ROUTES WE SEND OUT EACH DAY. 
          OR YOU CAN DO, YOU KNOW, WEEKDAYS SATURDAY, SUNDAY IS FINE, BUT, AND THEN WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN OF IF IT'S 10 ROUTES THAT GO OUT EACH DAY? FIVE OF THEM ARE IN PEAK, FIVE OF THEM BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S EASY TO SEE IT HERE, BUT IT'S MORE EFFECTIVE IF I CAN SEE WHAT THE, HOW MANY OF THOSE ROUTES FALL INTO THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          SURE. 
          WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MS. SWAN KRAUSS? THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          SO I, AS I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, INCREASE IN THE, UM, OPERATING BUDGET, SO THE TOP THREE OH, SALARY AND BENEFITS PARATRANSIT SLASH GOLINK POLICE. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU, UM, GO DOWN TO THE BREAKDOWN, UM, THE PARATRANSIT AND GOLINK IS FOR THE EXPANDED GOLINK AND PLANO, UM, BUT WE EXPECT THE RIDERSHIP INCREASE FOR PARATRANSIT AND THAT EXPANDED GOLINK. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. 
          THERE'S, UM, THERE'S EXPECTATIONS FOR CONTINUED GROWTH IN BOTH SERVICE LINES AND THE INCREASE FOR THE PARATRANSIT IS BAKED IN FOR TRANSIT DEV ANNUAL CONTRACTUAL INCREASES, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          AND THEN TO ME, I THINK, UM, THE POLICE, WHICH IS A VERY, UM, PRIORITIZED, UM, GOAL FOR THIS, UM, UH, AGENCY IS THAT WE'RE LOOK, IS THAT, WHAT IS IT, 19 20% OF THE GROWTH OF THAT? YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU OPERATING, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ABOUT 20% OF OUR GROWTH IS EITHER LIKE NEW SERVICE OR IMPROVED SAFETY SECURITY FOR THE AGENCY. 
          UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A, THE CHANGE FROM FISCAL 26 TO 27 IN THE BUDGET, AND THEN IF WE WANT TO DO ANY CHANGES IN OUR POLICIES, UM, REGARDING MAYBE LIKE OUR, WHAT IS IT? OR SHUTTLE OR ANYTHING THAT'S A SERVICE STANDARD, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          THERE IS A SPECIFIC BOARD POLICY FOR THE SITE SPECIFIC SHUTTLE, UM, THAT THE, THE BOARD DETERMINES FUNDING LEVEL SPLITS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE A, A BOARD DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN FOR CHANGES IN SERVICE STANDARDS, I THINK THAT'S A TWO THIRDS VOTE, I BELIEVE. 
          YES. 
          SO BEFORE WE COULD DO ANYTHING DO THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR SERVICE STANDARDS, WOULD WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN HAVE A VOTE ON THAT AND THEN CHANGE THE POLICY STANDARD? I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE CART AND THE HORSE GO. 
          Y YES. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT SITE SPECIFIC SHUTTLE POLICY AND OR SERVICE STANDARDS. 
          UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, MAKE 
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A DECISION ON, UH, A CHANGE TO SERVICE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR SERVICE LEVELS THE SAME, UM, FY 2027 AS WE DID FOR FY 2026. 
          'CAUSE WE, WE REALLY HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ON THAT IN WHAT, UM, CIRCUMSTANCE WOULD PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS BE NEEDED IF WE MAKE ANY CHANGES. 
          SO WHENEVER WE MAKE A MAJOR CHANGE PER OUR SERVICE OF OUR SERVICE, AND THAT IS A MAJOR CHANGE IS DEFINED IN THOSE SERVICE STANDARDS, UM, YOU'RE THEN IT THEN TRIGGERS THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESS TITLE SIX ANALYSIS AND THOSE STEPS THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. 
          MAYOR STO FOR TWO MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M JUST GONNA MAKE SOME GENERAL STATEMENTS BECAUSE I THINK WE GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE SOMETIMES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME IS THE PAY PLAN AND THE BONUSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          I'M NOT OPPOSED, I'M, I'M PRETTY INCLINED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE BUDGETS AS THEY'RE SUBMITTED, BUT I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE FOR US TO TAKE UP THREE OR FOUR OF THE THINGS THAT WE KICK AROUND EVERY YEAR AND WE NEVER ADDRESS. 
          'CAUSE IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE WE START TALKING ABOUT BONUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HOW YOU UNDERSTAND IT AND HOW IT WORKS IN EACH DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO, TO, TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TRY TO COME TO A SOLUTION. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT I THINK JUST UNDERSTANDING WHO, WHO OVERSEES WHICH PART OF THIS, OF THE SALARIES. 
          AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO 'EM AND OR, BUT, UH, BONUSES. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE TO REALLY HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT RIDERSHIP BECAUSE WE'VE JUST BASICALLY DOING THE SAME THING WE'VE ALWAYS DONE. 
          IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT THERE AND REALLY LOOK AT, WE CAN SIT THERE AND TALK TO OUR CITIES, OUR AND IRVING'S GONNA SAY, WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS. 
          AND PLAINTIFF'S GONNA SAY, I, BUT WE HAVE NO MORE CLUE. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT BOTH OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES DID, THEY BLEW UP THEIR SYSTEM AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOUBLE OR TRIPLE RIDERSHIP FROM WHAT THEY USED TO HAVE. 
          SO IF WE CONTINUE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT THIS MUCH MONEY IN, WE'RE GONNA DO IT THE SAME WAY. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT. 
          WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM. 
          WE'RE NOT, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT LOWER RIDERSHIP. 
          SO IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE PAY, WE DON'T ADDRESS THE RIDERSHIP AND THAT BY RIDERSHIP. 
          I, I FEEL LIKE BUSES AND I'M, I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT BUYING, CONTINUING TO BUY MORE BUSES. 
          WE MAY BE ABLE TO, WE'RE SEEING BETTER RIDERSHIP WITH THE SMALLER VEHICLES THAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR TWO, UH, ROUTES. 
          THAT, THAT, UH, THEN NOT HAVING THE BIG BUSES. 
          NOW WE CAN'T CHANGE ALL THIS THIS YEAR. 
          WE'RE PRETTY MUCH STUCK, BUT AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT IT REALISTICALLY. 
          AND THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT'S THE VALUE OF DART? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT 2.0, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PIECES GOING TO DIFFERENT AREAS AND IF WE DON'T SET UP WHAT WE OWN AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT ITS VALUE IS, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE IN THE GAME. 
          SAME WAY WITH PERCENTAGES OF MONEY COMING FROM, FROM THE, FROM COG. 
          IF THE TRE'S WORTH X AND THE DART OR DART'S WORTH XD CTAS WORTH X, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US A PERCENTAGES BASED UPON WHAT THAT X IS. 
          SO I THINK AS WE GET EVEN DEEPER INTO THE 2.0 AND WHEN WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND START TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE REALLY HAVE THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE TO GET MORE DOLLARS TO FOR THE SYSTEMS. BUT, SO THOSE ARE GENERAL STATEMENTS. 
          UH, I, WE CAN AT THIS POINT GO BACK AND CHANGE WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT I JUST SEE US HEADED DOWN THE SAME PATH WE GO DOWN EVERY YEAR. 
          WE'VE NOT ADDRESSED THE BUS SITUATION. 
          UH, I WAS JUST ASKED DAVID BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL THE OTHER DAY THAT WE'RE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF TRAINS ON THE ORANGE LINE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT USING AS MANY, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT WEARING 'EM OUT BY USING THEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID ON THE TRE. 
          WE TOOK SOME OF 'EM OFF BECAUSE WE WEREN'T UTILIZING 'EM. 
          SO THAT WAY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUY REPLACE 'EM, WE COULD USE 'EM IN OTHER PLACES. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO REALLY, RATHER THAN JUST SAY, OH, THIS IS WONDERFUL AND, AND A BUDGET'S OUT ADDRESS RIDERSHIP THE VEHICLES WE'RE UTILIZING AND HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE CITIES BECAUSE THE CITIES ARE NOT GONNA, I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO DO SOMETHING, BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE THAT, THAT WE HAVE HERE AT DART, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HIT THE THE MAX. 
          BUT, SO THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          FOUR MOTIONS. 
          'CAUSE I'M HAVE A ROUND TWO. 
          UM, MICHELLE, DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? NO. 
          FOR WHAT? FOR A COMMENT? RAISE YOUR HAND FOR COMMENT. 
          NO, NO. 
          I ALREADY MADE MY COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MR. ENETT FOR ROUND ONE, THANK YOU, UH, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          THERE IS MONEY IN THE HARVESTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE GET FROM GOLINK, THE, THE GPS DATA THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SOME PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. 
          I ASSUME THAT THAT'S BUDGETED IN HERE ALONG WITH THE GOLINK. 
          I 
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WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE IT AND THE, THE SOFTWARE TO HARVEST THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE ESTABLISHING PERHAPS DIFFERENT KINDS OF TRANSPORTATION IN THOSE AREAS. 
          YES SIR. 
          AND, AND WE HAVE, WE PROVIDED SOME DASHBOARDS TO CITIES SO THAT THEY CAN SEE, UM, THE ACTIVITY OF THE GOLINK WITHIN THEIR CITY SPECIFICALLY. 
          I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. 
          EXCUSE ME JAMIE. 
          SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE SOFTWARE AVAILABLE SO WE CAN TELL HOW MANY TIMES THAT GO LINK HAS BEEN AT A PARTICULAR PLACE FOR THREE PEOPLE OR TWO PEOPLE, OR EIGHT TIMES A DAY. 
          SO WE CAN ESTABLISH HOTSPOTS. 
          IT'S, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAMES OF THE SOFTWARE THAT, AND YOU CAN TRACK CELL PHONES. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, GOLINK IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO PROVIDE AND ONE OF THE THINGS I EXPECT TO GLEAN FROM IT IS THESE DATA THAT SHOW WHERE WE MIGHT DO A 30 FOOT BUS OR A SHUTTLE. 
          DO WE HAVE THAT KIND OF SOFTWARE AND THAT KIND OF DATA CATCH CAPABILITY BUILT IN THIS BUDGET? YES. 
          THE DISPATCHING SOFTWARE THAT WE USE CAPTURES THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF GOLINK AND PARATRANSIT, YOU HAVE THE ORIGIN AND DESTINATION OF EVERY SINGLE TRIP. 
          SO WE CAN SEE EXACTLY THE HOTSPOTS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING PICKED UP FOR EVERY TRIP THAT IS PROVIDED ON THE GOLINK SERVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU, YOU'RE DESCRIBING DISPATCH. 
          I KNOW THAT GOLINK WENT TO 3 38 MAIN STREET FOUR TIMES 'CAUSE I CALLED IT THAT. 
          YES, THERE IS DATA THAT USES GPS THAT'S MUCH MORE ACCURATE AND MUCH LESS THAN LABOR INTENSIVE. 
          DO WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY IN THIS BUDGET? YES, IT HAS THE LOT LONG. 
          GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. 
          WELL, ALRIGHT, I, I'LL GET SEPARATELY THEN ON BONUSES IN THIS BUDGET WITH RESPECT TO PERSONNEL, DO WE HAVE THE 3%, WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR BONUSES IN HERE FOR DISCRETIONARY BONUSES TO BE PAID OUT TO PEOPLE DURING THE YEAR? THE NON SALARIED NON-SALARY, THE HOURLY ONLY THE HOURLY EMPLOYEES. 
          WE HAVE THE, UM, IT'S A ATTENDANCE PROGRAM, FORGETTING THE EXACT ACRONYM OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, THE OPERATORS MECHANICS EVERYONE ON AN HOURLY BASIS, UM, CAN GET PAID OUT UP TO $750 EVERY FOUR MONTHS. 
          WHAT'S THE TOTAL ON WHAT THE TOTAL THE BUDGET, DO YOU KNOW THAT? UM, IT'S ABOUT 1.5 MILLION. 
          AND THEN, THEN NON THEN SALARIED EMPLOYEE BONUSES. 
          WHAT'S THE AMOUNT IN THIS BUDGET? UM, IT'S ABOUT 3 MILLION. 
          THAT'S BROKEN INTO TWO COMPONENTS. 
          THERE'S THE RPM, WHICH IS FOR STAFF UP TO SENIOR MANAGERS. 
          THEY GET UP TO $1,400 A YEAR TIMES GOAL ATTAINMENT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE. 
          AND THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 1.5 MILLION. 
          ALSO. 
          THEY ALL KIND OF BREAK DOWN INTO THOSE INCREMENTS. 
          AND THEN IT'S THE DIRECTORS END UP THAT GET A PERCENT OF SALARY TIMES GOAL ATTAINMENT, UM, ANNUALLY. 
          AND HOW DO THOSE NUMBERS STACK UP AGAINST LAST YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THOSE BUDGETS? IT, IT BASICALLY THE, THE SAME OKAY. 
          THE SAME AMOUNT. 
          AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS YEAR? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR A CEO BONUS AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST? UH, NO. 
          NO, WE DO NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          BASED ON, UH, THE CONTRACT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO IN THE PAST. 
          SO YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY THOSE BONUSES OUT YET? 'CAUSE THE BOARD HASN'T DECIDED HOW THOSE BONUSES SHOULD FLOW. 
          THEY USED TO BE FLOWN OR THEY FLOW. 
          THEY WENT THROUGH THE CEO'S, UH, EVALUATION. 
          SO THE BOARD NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THAT FOR THE REST OF THE AGENCY. 
          FOR THE AGENCY GOALS. 
          ARE YOU LOOKING FOR OUR, WE'RE WITH THE CEO, RIGHT? THE ALL OF COMPENSATION FOR STAFF IS, IS CEO DISCRETION PER CHAPTER 4 52 PER BOARD POLICY. 
          Y'ALL KNOW THIS. 
          SO IT'LL BE, I THINK A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, MR. FORD AND Y'ALL AND HOW THAT WILL WORK GOING FORWARD. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? NOT PROMOTIONS? I, UH, ONE QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, FIRST ONE QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK Y'ALL. 
          SO JUST AT A, AT A HIGH LEVEL, OBVIOUSLY THE OPERATING BUDGET IS INCREASING, UH, 5.3% FROM ABOUT 757 MILLION TO 797 MILLION. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS. 
          THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT FOR ADDITIONAL GO LINK, UH, IN THE CITY OF PLANO. 
          UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER SMALL ADDITIONS, BUT, UH, PRIMARILY THIS IS A STATUS QUO BUDGET, YOU KNOW, NO, UM, NO HUGE INCREASES IN SERVICE. 
          SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW WE, HOW THE 5.3% INCREASE MATERIALIZED, ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT'S MORE THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STAFF IS GETTING IN RAISES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN THE COMBINATION OF INFLATION AND POPULATION GROWTH. 
          HOW DO WE GET TO 5.3% FOR A MOSTLY STATUS QUO BUDGET? SO THE LARGEST INCREASE OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE HAD PLANNED, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE HAD PLANNED GROWTH IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN OF THE 23.5 MILLION, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 16.3 OF THAT 16.3, 8.3 OF THAT. 
          SO HALF OF THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE TSO PROGRAM. 
          WE HAD BEEN FUNDING THE TSO PROGRAM THROUGH THE NON-OPERATING LINE ITEM WITH, UM, RIDERSHIP IMPROVEMENT DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND WE ACTUALLY WANT TO INCREASE AND EXPAND THAT PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE NOW MOVED IT OUT OF NON-OPERATING 
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AND MOVED IT TO THE OPERATING BUDGET. 
          SO THAT'S THAT $8.3 MILLION INCREASE THAT YOU SEE THERE, THAT EATS UP 50% OF THAT ADDITIONAL GROWTH. 
          UM, THE PARATRANSIT AND GOLINK WE'RE STILL EXPERIENCING INCREASES IN RIDERSHIP ON BOTH OF THOSE. 
          SO WHILE WE DID INCREASE SERVICE IN, IN PLANO FOR GOLINK, REGARDLESS OF THE SERVICE LEVELS, PEOPLE ARE CONTINUING TO RIDE AND CONTINUING TO UTILIZE THOSE SERVICE AT HIGHER LEVELS THAN WE'D ANTICIPATED. 
          AND BOTH OF THOSE SERVICE LINES, WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME BAKED IN TRANSAC OR, UH, CONTRACTUAL COST THAT WE HAVE TO PAY NO MATTER WHAT. 
          BUT THE NATURE OF THOSE RIDES, THE DEMAND RESPONSE IS THERE'S AN REALLY, THERE'S AN INCREMENTAL COST FOR EVERY SINGLE TRIP THAT WE PROVIDE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO INCREASED TRIPS EQUALS INCREASED COST TO THE AGENCY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALSO PICKING UP HERE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST PIECE IS TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS, RIGHT? UM, WE DO OUR VERY BEST TO GET THE BEST PRICE THAT WE CAN ON TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS. 
          WE UTILIZE THE DIR WHERE WE CAN, OR COOPERATIVES WHERE WE HAVE MORE PURCHASING POWER. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THE COST OF TECHNOLOGY AND SOFTWARE IS, HAS NOT DECREASED. 
          AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE INCREASES IN TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS. 
          AND SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FULLY UTILIZING EVERY SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO ITS MAX POTENTIAL RATHER THAN HAVING SMALLER DISPARATE SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE, THE AGENCY. 
          UM, BUT SOME OF OUR BIG CORE SYSTEMS WERE AT THE MICROSOFT CONTRACT OR TRAPEZE, OR SOME OF JUST OUR BIG CORE OPERATING SYSTEMS. THE COSTS ARE GOING UP ON US EVERY YEAR. 
          AWESOME. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          OKAY, MR. LOPEZ, THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, JAMIE, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UH, UH, OUR TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS. 
          AND ON SLIDE 22, IT'S SHOWING THAT WE HAVE A 75% INCREASE IN TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS, SOFTWARE AND LICENSING. 
          UM, HOW DO WE AMORTIZE THAT? IS IT OVER THE FLOOR? IS IT OVER THE COURSE OF THE, THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE PACKAGE OR OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONTRACT? UH, OR IS IT PAID ALL AT UPFRONT AND ON ON A LUMP SUM? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PLACE THAT INTO THE BUDGET? SURE. 
          FOR, I MEAN, FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES, WE LOOK AT A SINGLE YEAR. 
          SO WHAT WE THINK OUR ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION, AND MOST, MOST SOFTWARES NOW ARE SUBSCRIPTION BASED, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE SAAS SYSTEMS. SO WE BUDGET BASED FOR LIKE A SINGLE YEAR, UM, ACTIVITY ON THAT CONTRACT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE MICROSOFT CONTRACT THAT CAME BEFORE EACH NIGHT WAS 11.9 MILLION. 
          WE'LL TAKE ONE THIRD OF THAT, AND THAT WILL BE FY 20 SEVEN'S BUDGET, ONE THIRD FOR FY 28 AND 29, UH, MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND THEN IF WE ARE REQUIRED TO LIKE, PAY UPFRONT FOR LIKE A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD, THEN WE WOULD HIT LIKE DEBIT, PREPAID, UH, CREDIT THE PAYMENT. 
          AND THEN EACH YEAR WE WOULD THEN EXPENSE, UH, A PORTION OF IT EQUAL TO THE YEAR THAT WE'RE IN. 
          AND, AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY, UH, ASK THAT, UH, WE, BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLY HIGH COST OF, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASES IN TECHNOLOGY, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY BRIEFING ON KIND OF THE MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT WE HOLD, OFTEN WE'RE ASKED TO VOTE ON LARGE CONTRACTS, UH, RELATED TO IT SERVICES. 
          AND, UH, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, I, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THESE SYSTEMS DO. 
          UM, AND WE RELY CREDIBLY, UM, HIGH ON THE STAFF TO PROVIDE US THIS INFORMATION, BUT I, I, I WANT TO KIND OF GET A, A, A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHERE THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE BEING USED, HOW THEY'RE BEING USED, HOW THEY INCORPORATE AI, AND THEN THE WHOLE SECURITY COMPONENT AS WELL. 
          WE EVER GET HACKED. 
          UH, WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS INSURANCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US? I'D LOVE A TECHNOLOGY BRIEFING. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTIME SOON. 
          I'M JUST SAYING I'D LOVE A TECHNOLOGY BRIEFING MAYBE FROM OUR CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER ABOUT WHERE THESE COSTS ARE OCCURRING BECAUSE THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY PROJECTED GROWTH AREA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FUTURE PROJECTIONS AS WELL RELATED TO TECHNOLOGY NEEDS OF, OF THIS AGENCY. 
          SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, MR. CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 
          LET YOU CAN PUT ME ON FOR TWO. 
          UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE BONUSES AND I SWEAR EVERY TIME I TALK ABOUT IT, I GET MORE CONFUSED. 
           AND THE CONFUSION'S GOING TO END TODAY. 
          SO THIS DECEMBER, OKAY. 
          WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE SOMETHING BASED UPON LAST YEAR'S APPROVED BUDGET THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN RIGHT NOW. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S A, AND HISTORICALLY THIS COMING DECEMBER, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BASED ON A CEO EVALUATION. 
          AND THAT EVALUATION IS KIND OF ALL ENCOMPASSING OF, UH, GOALS THAT THE CEO HAS 
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DIRECTLY AND AS WELL AS AGENCY'S GOALS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE DO SOMETHING IN DECEMBER, THE MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH IT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY THIS CURRENT BUDGET? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          HOWEVER, OR, AND, AND IN, IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET RIGHT NOW, THERE'S, THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR A BONUS PROGRAM FOR S AND NON SALARIED EMPLOYEES. 
          CORRECT? FOR FY 27. 
          YES. 
          S AND THIS IS, AND THIS IS WHERE I KEEP GETTING CONFUSED. 
          LET, LET ME STEP IN HERE. 
          THERE'S A PROVISION IF THERE'S AN ALLOCATION OF FUNDING, BUT THERE IS NO COMMITMENT TO THE CURRENT PLAN. 
          SO THE CURRENT PLAN IS, UH, THERE'S TWO PARTS REALLY. 
          UH, ONE IS ADJUSTED BASED ESSENTIALLY ON OVERALL, UH, PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF, OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES. 
          THE EXECUTIVE PLAN IS THE ONE THAT HAS, IS NOT UP, UH, FOR DETERMINATION YET BECAUSE, UH, MR. FORD WILL HAVE THAT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY, THIS IS THE PLAN I WANT TO ADVANCE. 
          OR HE, HE WANTS TO DISCONTINUE THE PLAN. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE STAFF CAN ASSUME ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC EXECUTIVE PLAN OVER AND ABOVE, UH, THE NORMAL PERFORMANCE REVIEWS THAT ARE BASED ON INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE, NOT AGENCY-WIDE PERFORMANCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE, THE OH, OKAY. 
          THE, OKAY. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN IS BEYOND APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET, THERE IS A PLACEHOLDER FOR SOME FUNDS THAT NEED TO BE DETERMINED HOW TO BE ALLOCATED. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEW CEO WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND OUTLINE WHAT HIS PROPOSAL IS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS A CHANGE FROM WHAT'S, UH, OCCURRED IN THE PAST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO EVEN IF WE DID SOMETHING IN DECEMBER AT FULL VALUE, LET'S JUST CALL IT FOR WHAT'S BEEN HISTORIC, THAT'S BASED ONE LAST YEAR'S ALREADY APPROVED BUDGET, RIGHT? THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN. 
          NOW, THE NEW CEO MR. FORD WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE METRICS, UH, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA DECIDE HOW MUCH WAS ACHIEVED, HOW MUCH AGENCY WISE IT WAS ACHIEVED. 
          BUT THAT DOES NOT BECOME A PRECEDENT FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK I'M 75% THERE, . 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY, MR. RICKARD, I KNOW YOU GOT SOME THINGS TEED UP AND, AND I'M GONNA ASK FOR MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL TAKE YOUR AMENDMENT. 
          SAID, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          MOVE, APPROVE. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. ENOCH AND SECOND BY MR. CHAIR. 
          SLAGEL DISCUSSION. 
          MR. MR. ELLI. 
          AND FOR, FOR THIS, I'LL START THE THREE, TWO ONES OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          SO I HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF QUICK HITTERS, THREE QUICK HITTERS ACTUALLY. 
          AND THEN ONE MORE INVOLVED MOTION. 
          SO THE FIRST, UH, IS TO MOVE CUSTOMER SERVICE TO AN OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENT WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS IT WOULD FIT. 
          I KNOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT IN MARKETING. 
          I, I REALLY PERSONALLY FEEL THAT, UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE IS NOT A MARKETING FUNCTION. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S DEALING WITH, UH, INCOMING COMPLAINTS AND OPERATIONAL ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE HOUSED ELSEWHERE WHERE IT WOULD, WHERE IT WOULD FIT BETTER. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE CUSTOMER SERVICE TO AN OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIM CEO'S CHOOSING, I'M GONNA TAKE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT. 
          I, I WILL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET TO DO THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AS AN AMENDMENT. 
          IS THERE SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL TAKE HAND VOTES ON ALL OF THESE, ALL OF SECOND. 
          OH, UH, MAURICE WEST. 
          SECOND ON THAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, THE MOTION IS TO, UM, I DON'T HAVE MY SHEET ANYMORE. 
          S YEAH. 
          TO MOVE CUSTOMER SERVICE TO A D TO WHICH DEPARTMENT? UH, TO AN OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIM, CHOOSING OPERATIONAL. 
          OKAY. 
          IS IT MOVED IN SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. 
          SECOND, THE MOTION. 
          THANKS FOR SECONDING. 
          THAT . 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          MAURICE. 
          GOTTA KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD. 
          YES. 
          , APPRECIATE YOU, MY FRIEND WITH FOUR IN FAVOR AID AND NO, WITH FOUR IN FAVOR, AID AND OPPOSITION. 
          THAT MOTION, THAT AMENDMENT FAILS MR. ELLI. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY, MY SECOND MOTION. 
          THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A $1.988 MILLION MANAGEMENT RESERVE. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHY THE INTERIM CEO ASKED FOR IT TO BE INCLUDED. 
          UM, AND I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF PRESERVING FLEXIBILITY FOR THE NEW 
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CEO, BUT I THINK IT'S THE BOARD'S JOB TO PROVIDE POLICY GUIDANCE TO THE CEO AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 
          I ALSO THINK THAT APPROPRIATING MONEY IS THE BOARD'S FUNCTION AND WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROPRIATING IT FOR AND NOT JUST HAVE $2 MILLION THAT'S THERE FOR WHATEVER INITIATIVES THE CEO. 
          BUT THE NEW CEO MIGHT IDENTIFY WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL. 
          THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO, BY THE WAY, WITH WHO THE NEW CEO IS OR, YOU KNOW, THE VOTE ON THAT ISSUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT'S A, A BOARD GOVERNANCE THING. 
          UH, I, I THINK WE ALSO ALREADY KNOW WHERE WE CAN TAKE STEPS TO IMPROVE SERVICES IN UNDERSERVED CITIES STARTING NOW. 
          UH, SO I WOULD REPURPOSE IT FOR THOSE PRIORITIES AND REMOVE THE, UH, NEARLY $2 MILLION MANAGEMENT RESERVE FROM THE BUDGET. 
          SO I MOVED TO AMEND THE BUDGET IN THAT MANNER. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? AMEN. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          AND SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? UM, JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING WITH THE CEO. 
          UM, DID, UH, THEY DID THE INCOMING CEO REQUEST, UH, THIS LINE ITEM? OR WAS THIS BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION? NO, THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          UH, MR. FORD HAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND YOU'VE SERVED THIS AGENCY TWICE NOW AS AN INTERIM? I'VE BEEN PRACTICING, YES. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE MOTION IS TO ELIMINATE THE $1.988 MILLION MANAGEMENT RESERVE. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          AND SECOND IT IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          I HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          OH, I'M, OH, I'M, FORGIVE ME. 
          UH, MS. LOPEZ, UH, THE DISCRETION, WHAT, CAN, CAN YOU JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY DESCRIBE WHAT THAT'S USED FOR? LIKE E EXAMPLES OF HOW THAT'S BEEN USED IN THE PAST? YEAH, THAT, UH, THE COMMON USE FOR THAT WOULD BE TO COVER MAJOR, UH, CONSULTING, UH, PROJECTS LIKE AN ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW, A MAJOR EQUATION, COMP, SALARY ADJUSTMENT. 
          UH, THAT'S GONNA IMPACT THE OVERALL ORGANIZATION, UH, IN DEPTH, UH, ASSESSMENT OF, OF ALL THE EXECUTIVES. 
          AS ANOTHER CASE IN POINT, UH, USUALLY THOUGH IT WOULD, IT'S SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THE CEO HAS DETERMINED. 
          UH, HE THINKS IT, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, HE'D ALWAYS CONSULTS WITH THE BOARD ON THIS, UH, AS, AS INITIATIVES THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO START IN ADVANCE OF WAITING FOR ANOTHER ANNUAL CYCLE. 
          SO, UH, THE ONES I MENTIONED EARLIER ON WERE REALLY ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSESSMENT RELATED, INDIVIDUAL COMPS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          THE OTHERS, UH, A GOOD CASE CASE IN POINT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, GO PASS BACK IN 2013 WHERE, UH, 2012, UH, WE NEEDED TO BRING IN, UH, SOMEONE WHO KNEW A LOT ABOUT PAYMENT METHOD TECHNOLOGY. 
          UH, AND WE WANTED TO GET IT MOVING, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY. 
          SO THAT WAS A CASE IN POINT WHERE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS APPLIED SO WE COULD GET THAT DESIGN WORK DONE AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH A, A FULL ANNUAL CYCLE. 
          BUT IT'S INITIATIVES. 
          BUT MOST, MOST OFTEN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S REALLY BEEN RELATED TO, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL ASSESSMENTS THAT, UH, SOME OF 'EM ARE OPERATIONAL AUDITS, UM, EFFICIENCY ORIENTED. 
          SOME OF 'EM ARE STUDIES OF PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOKED ONE IN PARTICULAR, YOU'D SAY, WELL, POLICE IS AN AWFULLY BIG SHOP. 
          UH, THE BUS OPERATIONS IS AN AWFULLY BIG SHOP. 
          WHAT ARE THE METRICS? IT, IT IS GONNA BE THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SURE. 
          IS IS THERE A PROCESS DOCUMENT, UH, THAT OUTLINES THESE? NO. 
          NO. 
          THERE IS NO PROCESS. 
          THERE'S NO, IT'S, IT'S, HE HAS TO, HE HAS THE, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE, SOME GUIDE RAILS AT ALL. 
          HE, HE HAS TO BRING IT FORWARD AND SAY, THIS WAS  TO THE BOARD. 
          YEAH, BUT IT, BUT HE ONLY HAS TO BRIEF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S, BUT THAT'S HIS OBLIGATION IS TO ADVISE YOU OF WHAT HE'S DOING. 
          BUT HE HAS THE, THE LATITUDE TO THEN ENTER INTO THE CONTRACTS. 
          COULD WE INCLUDE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CREATE A PROCESS DOCUMENT? UH, AS LONG AS YOU'RE EXPLICIT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IF, IF YOU WANT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CEO COME TO YOU BACK TO THE BOARD, GIMME JUST ONE SECOND. 
          THAT AMENDMENT WOULD BE, UM, OUT OF LINE WITH WHAT THE MOTION IS, BECAUSE THE MOTION IS ACTUALLY TO ELIMINATE IT. 
          THE MOTION IS TO ELIMINATE IT. 
          THE MOTION IS TO ELIMINATE THE ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL, I WILL WITHDRAW. 
          WELL, YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT, WELL, I DIDN'T MAKE IT YOUR THOUGHT. 
          I WILL WITHDRAW MY IDEA. 
          YEAH, . 
          OKAY. 
          OR YOU CONCLUDED WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR TALK. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. BASS, THREE MINUTES. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I THOUGHT YOU BOTH BOTH RAISED YOUR HAND AT THE SAME TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANYONE ELSE ON THE AMENDMENT TO ELIMINATE THE $1.988 MILLION 
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FOR MANAGEMENT RESERVE? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND OPPOSED SAME SIGN WITH THREE IN FAVOR. 
          NINE IN OPPOSITION. 
          THAT AMENDMENT FAILS. 
          MR. ELLI, THANK YOU. 
          UH, GIVEN THAT THAT FAILED, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE DIRECTOR LOPEZ'S MOTION. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, AT LEAST PUT GUARDRAILS AROUND THE USE OF THAT FUNDS, CREATE SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENT CREATING GUARDRAILS. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND THOSE GUARDRAILS WOULD REQUIRE BOARD APPROVAL. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? MOTION? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, WHEN I ACTUALLY CONFERRED MR. ARDELL, YOU MIGHT WANT, YOU MIGHT WANNA HEAR THIS. 
          WHEN I ACTUALLY CONFERRED WITH THE GENERAL COUNSEL FIRST, THE QUESTION THAT I ACTUALLY ASKED HIM FIRST WAS, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT THOSE GUARDRAILS ON? OKAY. 
          UM, TO, TO ALIGN 'EM IN, IN THE BUDGET? AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. 
          AND THEN WHAT THEN CLICKED ACTUALLY IN MY HEAD WAS THAT, THAT THAT AMENDMENT WAS NOT GERMANE. 
          SO I NEVER GOT THAT ANSWER FROM, OKAY. 
          FROM THE GENERAL COUNSEL. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT GUARDRAILS ON LINE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET? LET, LET ME START. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          LET, LET ME START JUST WITH WHAT 4 52 GIVES THE AUTHORITY FOR THIS. 
          THE CEO, THE CO SHOULD PRESCRIBE THE DUTIES, TENURE AND COMPENSATION OF EACH PERSON. 
          IF, IF IT'S AN ORG, IF IT'S AN OPERATIONAL ASSESSMENT THAT'S WITHIN THEIR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AND, AND WHAT, WHAT THIS IS DOING AND WHAT, WHAT, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR MOTION IS YOU'RE SAYING THE BOARD, THAT THE BOARD SHOULD COME AND APPROVE IT. 
          THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY ASK FOR A BRIEFING ON IT. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS GETTING INTO THEIR DAY TO DAY. 
          THEY CAN CERTAINLY ASK FOR AN UPDATE ON IT AND A BRIEFING ON, ON, ON THE 1.9. 
          UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVAL OF IT THAT IT SEEMS TO SLOW DOWN THE, THE PROCESS, ONCE IT GETS STARTED IMMEDIATELY, AND IT GOES INTO HIS DAY-TO-DAY FUNCTION THAT THE PRESIDENT THAT THIS BOARD HIRED THAT CO TO DO, OKAY, I JUST NEED A STRAIGHT YES OR NO. 
          DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, IS, IS, IS, IS THIS AMENDMENT EVEN ACCEPTABLE? YES OR NO? DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT GUARDRAILS ON THE CEO'S ABILITY TO EXPEND THIS 1.988 THROUGH BOARD APPROVAL, NOT BRIEFING. 
          WE UNDERSTAND IT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT OUT THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE CEO WOULD COME BACK FOR A BRIEFING. 
          I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE APPROVAL OF HOW THIS 1.988 IS EXPENDED? DO WE HAVE AS BOARD HAVE THAT AUTHORITY? THE APPROVAL? NO, BECAUSE THE APPROVAL GETS INTO HIS DAY-TODAY. 
          UH, UH, UH, DECISION MAKING OF THE CE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THEN I'M GONNA RULE THE AMENDMENT OUT OF ORDER. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          I WILL, I WILL MOVE ALONG. 
          I'LL MOVE ALONG. 
          SO I, I HAD ONE. 
          THERE ARE SOME, UH, POSITIONS TO BE POTENTIALLY HIRED AT MIDYEAR. 
          OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, ORDINARILY BUDGETING, UH, FUNDING BUDGETED POSITIONS IS A BOARD FUNCTION THROUGH THE BUDGET. 
          BUT I'M, AND I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT, UM, RATHER THAN APPROVING THESE RIGHT NOW, THAT THESE COME BACK TO THE BOARD AT MIDYEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POSITIONS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET BUT NOT TO BE HIRED RIGHT NOW, NOT TO BE HIRED UNTIL MID-YEAR, THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE THOSE AT MID-YEAR. 
          IS THAT BASED ON THE SAME ISSUES? IS, IS THAT, UH, LEGALLY FEASIBLE OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CANNOT DO ALSO, MR. COUNSEL, AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO THE EMPLOYMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE, THE EMPLOYMENT IF, UH, IF I REMEMBER THE CHART, THERE WAS CERTAIN, UM, NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WERE GONNA BE, UH, CONSIDERED. 
          AGAIN, 4 52 SAYS THAT, THAT THE CO SHALL PRESCRIBE THE, UH, THE, THE TENURE AND THE, UM, AND THE HIRING OF, OF THE STAFF. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY JUMPING INTO HER. 
          OKAY. 
          HIS OR HER AREA UNDER 4 52. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT GUIDANCE. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, WITH THAT I WILL JUMP INTO, UH, MY LAST AND, YOU KNOW, MOST SIGNIFICANT MOTION, UH, FOR THOSE WHO WERE ON THE BOARD A YEAR AGO. 
          IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME MOTION I MADE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEAR, UM, TO REALLOCATE SERVICES, UM, TO FUND TRUE SINGLE ZONE CITYWIDE GO LINK IN THE CITY OF PLANO, UH, AND FUND THE ENTIRE COST OF A LEGACY CIRCULATOR AND TAKE OVER THE COST OF THE PLANO RIDES PROGRAM. 
          UM, NOT TO REHASH THINGS, BUT JUST FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE, WHO ARE NEW, OR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING, WHO ARE NEW, UM, THE EY STUDY, UH, FOR 2023 FOUND THAT PLANO PAID IN 109 MILLION, GOT 44 MILLION IN SERVICES. 
          THAT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT GAP. 
          OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERING OPINIONS ON THE EXISTENCE OF THAT GAP, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE GAP, HOW IT OCCURRED, HOW IT CAN BE FIXED. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY THE SILVER LINE HAS HELPED THE, THE OPENING 
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OF THE SILVER LINE. 
          I'M SURE THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE DIFFERENT, BUT I'M ALSO SURE THAT THE ENTIRE GAP WOULD NOT BE CLOSED BY THAT OR, OR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT. 
          I THINK ALSO THERE ARE AT LEAST SOME OF US ON THE BOARD, UH, WHO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A, A FAIRLY UNIQUE GAP FOR A MEMBER CITY IN TERMS OF THE DISPARITY BETWEEN, UH, CONTRIBUTION TO DART AND, UH, EXPENDITURES BY DART IN, IN THAT MEMBER CITY. 
          SO I DO THINK, UH, PERSONALLY THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP MAKING PROGRESS ON, UH, DECREASING THAT DISPARITY AND INCREASING SERVICES IN THE CITY OF PLANO AND OTHER UNDERSERVED SUBURBAN CITIES. 
          UM, SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE A MOTION THAT WOULD HAVE SERVICE REALLOCATION THAT FIRST OF ALL WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON PARATRANSIT WHATSOEVER. 
          UH, THE SAVINGS, UH, BECAUSE CHAIR BRYANT REQUESTED A BALANCED, UH, MOTION, THE SAVINGS, UH, THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE, TO FUND THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES WOULD BE ACHIEVED BY DECREASING THE FREQUENCY ON, UH, ROUTES THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD, UH, EITHER LOW RIDERSHIP, HIGH SUBSIDY PER RIDER, OR BOTH. 
          AND IT WOULD NOT ELIMINATE ANY ROUTES, JUST DECREASED FREQUENCY ON THOSE ROUTES. 
          SO COVERAGE, UH, WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. 
          UH, IT JUST WOULD, WOULD NOT BE AS FREQUENT IN PLACES WHERE THERE'S A HIGHER SUBSIDY PER RIDER OR LOWER RIDERSHIP, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES IN THE CITY OF PLANO, UM, AND GET CLOSER TO EXPENDING IN PLANO, WHAT PLANO IS CONTRIBUTING. 
          UM, SO TO, UM, WELL, I'LL, I'LL JUST, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE ROUTES BRIEFLY BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION. 
          SO A LOT OF THESE ARE FROM A REPORT THAT THE STAFF PREPARED A YEAR AGO DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS. 
          UM, THE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY APPROXIMATELY THE SAME BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY HEAVY LIFT FOR THE STAFF. 
          UH, I THINK THEY WOULD GO BACK IN AND GET US EXACT NUMBERS. 
          IF THIS PASSES AS AN IDEA, UH, IS SOMETHING WE WOULD WANNA DO FOR THE 22ND. 
          BUT, UH, FOR TONIGHT, I'M JUST GONNA USE, UH, ON THE INTERIM CEO'S RECOMMENDATION, THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR. 
          UM, AND, UH, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, CHANGING SERVICES WOULD REQUIRE HEARINGS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M PROPOSING THAT THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED MID-YEAR, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HEARING PROCESS FIRST. 
          UH, UNLIKE LAST YEAR, WE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE HEARINGS. 
          SO, UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          BUT AGAIN, I'M USING LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS AS A PLACEHOLDER. 
          THE STAFF COULD WORK ON THIS. 
          I, I'D PROPOSE DECREASING FREQUENCY ON ROUTES 1 0 2, 1 0 3, 1 0 6, 1 0 9, 1 14, 2 0 2, 2 0 4, 2 0 7 2 14, 2 15, 2 17, 2 27, 2 45, 2 47, 2 50, AND 3 0 6. 
          UM, THE NUMBERS THAT THE, UH, STAFF PROVIDED ON THAT LAST YEAR, UH, SHOW THAT THAT WOULD, UH, PROVIDE SAVINGS OF, UH, UH, BETWEEN SIX AND $7 MILLION, UH, TO, UH, TO DECREASE FREQUENCY. 
          AGAIN, NOT DISCONTINUE ANY OF THOSE ROUTES. 
          UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LOOK AT SHOULD ADDITIONAL FUNDS BE NEEDED, DECREASING FREQUENCY ON 1 28, 1 45, 2 0 3, 2 12, 2 16, 2 19, 2 21, AND 2 23. 
          UH, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE I DO NOT YET HAVE, UH, STAFF NUMBERS ON THE SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE ACHIEVED THERE, BUT THAT WOULD GET US SOLIDLY INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, SIX TO $13 MILLION RANGE THAT THE STAFF, UH, ARTICULATED AS THE COST OF, UH, THIS PROPOSAL. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF THE EXACT NUMBERS, IF THIS WERE TO PASS, THE STAFF WOULD COME BACK ON THE 22ND WITH EXACT NUMBERS AND HOW MUCH OF THIS WE CAN DO WITH THOSE ROUTES AND AND WHATNOT. 
          BUT, SO ANYWAY, THE, UH, THE IDEA AGAIN IS, IS JUST TO, UH, NOT DISCONTINUE ANY ROUTE, BUT DECREASE FREQUENCY ON CERTAIN ROUTES IDENTIFIED BY LOW RIDERSHIP OR HIGH SUBSIDY PER RIDER IN ORDER TO, UH, UH, DECREASE THE DISPARITY BETWEEN CONTRIBUTION, UH, AND INVESTMENT BACK IN PLANO THROUGH SERVICES THAT, UH, I KNOW THE CITY DID NOT SUBMIT A FORMAL REQUEST IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE, BUT THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN REQUESTING FOR, UH, SOME TIME NOW. 
          AND SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO DECREASE FREQUENCY ON ROUTES 1 0 2, 1 0 3, 1 0 6, 1 0 9, 1 14, 1 28, 1 45, 2 0 2, 2 0 3, 2 0 4, 2 0 7 2 12 2 14, 2 15, 2 16, 2 17 2 19, 2 21, 2 23, 2 27, 2 4 5 2 4 7 2 50, AND 3 0 6. 
          AND, UH, USE THE SAVINGS ACHIEVED BY THAT TO IMPLEMENT, UH, MIDYEAR TRUE SINGLE ZONE, UH, CITYWIDE GO LINK IN THE CITY OF PLANO, ALONG WITH THE FULL COST OF A LEGACY CIRCULATOR. 
          AND, UH, ALSO PICKING UP THE COST OF THE PLANO RIDES PROGRAM THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED BY THE CITY OF PLANO. 
          ALRIGHT, SO IT MOVES THERE. 
          SECOND, I'LL 
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SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          I ACTUALLY FOLLOWED IT. 
           . 
          THANK YOU, RICK , GLAD YOU FOLLOWED IT. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, IT HAS BEEN MOVED. 
          AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? MAYOR STOFER. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          COULD WE, COULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT'S DONE PRETTY MUCH IN ANY CITY IF THEY WANTED TO? THE STAFF WANTED TO BASICALLY CHANGE THE, THE ROUTES AND THE TIMES AND THINGS AROUND. 
          UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD CONCERN ME IS THAT, UH, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT YOU HAD SOME TYPE OF A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, FROM THE COUNCIL ITSELF. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE TO, AT SOME POINT, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL THE STANDARDS WHEN WE CHANGE A ROUTE. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST, MY BIGGEST CONCERN. 
          BUT I, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE I THINK THAT ALL OF US COULD LOOK AT OUR ROUTES IN OUR CITY AND SEE THAT MAYBE THERE'S THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE TIMEFRAMES IN ONE ROUTE SO THAT WE COULD PUT 'EM INTO ANOTHER ROUTE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, UH, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD, 'CAUSE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD, BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES HAVE MERIT IN A LOT OF AREAS WHERE YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT RIDES 'EM IN THE MORNING IN THE EVENING, BUT THEY'RE NOT THAT MUCH DURING THE DAY, AND THEN UTILIZE THOSE DOLLARS TO PUT SOMETHING BACK IN PLACE. 
          JUST CURIOUS, UH, FROM THE MAYBE JEAN'S PERSPECTIVE OR PERSPECTIVE CHAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS IF WE HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS OR SOMETHING TO GET IT IN COMMON. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, OF COURSE WE DO. 
          AND, AND THIS TIME WON'T GO AGAINST THE MAYOR. 
          UM, I THINK NUMBER ONE, AND, AND, AND I APPRECIATE, AND I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST GONNA ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT WHAT I ASKED ALL MEMBERS TO DO WITH WAS TO BRING BACK, UH, A BALANCED AMENDMENT. 
          AND THAT IS HIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          WHAT I WOULD THEN TAKE THAT, THAT AS IS, IF IT WERE TO PASS THAT THE STAFF WOULD HAVE TO INCORPORATE THOSE CONCERNS, WHICH ARE VERY VALID ONES OF OUR, I BELIEVE IT'S TITLE VI, UM, UH, RIDERSHIP REQUIREMENTS. 
          IF THIS AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS AND THE BOARD SAID, YES, FUND THE ONE SINGLE RIDE, ONE SINGLE GOAL ZONE WITH THE REDUCTION OF THE ROUTES WITH THAT STIPULATION, THAT WOULD'VE TO BE COVERED. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION WE'VE TO STAFF. 
          UM, BUT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE, YOUR QUESTION YOU RAISED IS, IS, IS A TRUE AND ACCURATE ONE? AND, AND IF I MAY JUST QUICKLY, YOU'RE DONE. 
          IT, IT, OH, I'M, I'M SO SORRY, CHAIR. 
          I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE. 
          I DIDN'T TO INTERRUPT. 
          YEAH, NO, NO, NO. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT RESPONDING TO ME. 
          BUT IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE, I'LL GIVE YOU A ROUND TWO. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          SO ROUND A, ROUND A, A ROUND TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY CORRECT ANY MISCONCEPTION REAL QUICK, BECAUSE, UM, I THINK MAYOR STOW FOR THE PREMISE OF YOUR, UM, OF YOUR, UH, COMMENTS THERE WAS THAT THESE ARE PLANO ROUTES. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY YOU WERE SAYING YOU WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING FROM THE COUNCIL. 
          THESE ARE ACTUALLY, SOME OF THESE ROUTES GO THROUGH PLANO, BUT MOSTLY THESE ARE NOT PLANO ROUTES. 
          AND IN FACT, THERE ARE NOT NEARLY THAT MANY BUS ROUTES, UH, THAT TOUCH PLANO. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK THIS IS THE, THE, THE GOAL OF THIS WAS TO DECREASE FREQUENCY, UH, ON SOME ROUTES THAT EITHER HAVE HIGH SUBSIDY PER RIDER OR LOW RIDERSHIP IN AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY RECEIVING, UM, MORE DART SERVICES THAN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN AND REALLOCATE SOME OF THAT TOWARD PLANO, WHICH IS RECEIVING LESS THAN IT'S PAYING IN. 
          SO I JUST, SINCE THE PREMISE OF YOUR QUESTION WAS THAT THIS WAS, UM, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SPENDING DOLLARS THAT WERE ALREADY BEING SPENT IN PLANO IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE DOLLARS ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING SPENT IN PLANO, AND THIS WOULD BE WHAT YOU MEAN TAKING FROM OTHER AREAS TO, TO, TO SPEND IT IN PLANO. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAIR SLAGEL. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE HAD A DISCUSSION A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT RIDERSHIP HAS DECREASED AND WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP IN SOME WAY. 
          UH, AND OUR, YOU KNOW, DCTA AND TRINITY METRO HAVE, AS WAS BROUGHT OUT EARLIER, HAVE FOUND WAYS TO, UH, INCREASE RIDERSHIP BY CHANGING THE SYSTEM. 
          BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE A, A DISASTER IN TERMS OF JUST IF THIS BOARD, WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THOSE ROUTES WERE AND LOOKING AT THEM IN A LOT OF DETAIL, I THINK WE WOULD BE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE AND WE WOULD CREATE A, A, A NEGATIVE ACROSS THE REGION BECAUSE WE'VE JUST ARBITRARILY BASED ON, AND, AND WE DID THIS TO RICK IN IRVING, WE TOOK TRUE ROUTES AWAY, AND WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T EVEN FOLLOW THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAD. 
          WE DID IT WITHOUT THAT 
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ROUTE BEING IN PLACE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS GONNA BE A SUCCESSFUL ROUTE. 
          IT, THOSE WERE TWO NEW ROUTES, AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO ROUTES THAT WENT TO A RAIL STATION. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO I, I CANNOT SUPPORT ANY CHANGES OF THAT NATURE. 
          NOW, IF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT HOW WE GET GOLDLINK SERVICE ACROSS THE CITIES, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT ACROSS THE SYSTEM. 
          AND I, I JUST, WE, WE CAN'T DO A HUGE OVERHAUL OF THE SYSTEM FOR ONE CITY. 
          I KNOW YOU SAID IT COULD APPLY TO OTHERS, BUT IT PROBABLY MEANS THERE WOULD BE MORE ROUTES THAT WOULD HAVE TO DROP, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA EAT UP MOST OF THE MONEY. 
          SO I GREAT IDEA. 
          IF I'M A PLANO GUY, I SAY, YEAH, I WANNA DO THAT, BUT I'M NOT, AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE MY ROLE AS A REGIONAL BOARD MEMBER, UH, TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEST FOR DART ACROSS THE WHOLE REGION. 
          AND I JUST THINK THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD. 
          I COULDN'T SUPPORT IT, BUT, NICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? CHAIR, UM, MARY NICK? THREE MINUTES. 
          YEAH. 
          AS, AS WE WORK THROUGH, UH, THE, UH, REQUESTS OF OUR CITY AS THE CITY OF PLANO HAD, THAT HAD BEEN ONE OF PLANOS REQUESTS, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WE LOOKED AT THAT MONTHS AGO AND FOUND THAT THAT WAS A $6 MILLION ADD-ON. 
          UH, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF CHANGING THE ROUTES. 
          REMEMBER, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE DWELL TIME, WE HAVE TRAVEL TIME, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, THE NUMBER OF RIDERS, THE NUMBER OF DELAYS THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE IF THE, IF THE RIDE GOES LONGER THAN WHAT IT WOULD OTHERWISE DO. 
          FOR THE SAME REASON WE DON'T OFFER DIRECT, UH, TRIPS TO DFW OR LOVE FIELD. 
          'CAUSE THAT TAKES VEHICLES AND MANPOWER AWAY. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE BUDGET, I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO LOOK AT IT. 
          I THINK THE TENOR OF THIS WAS WE WERE GONNA COMPROMISE WITH THE CITY OF AND GOT, GOT PLANO A BUNCH OF WHAT IT WANTED THIS TIME WITHOUT THAT. 
          SO I, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT AND I'LL VOTE IN AS IT IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. RON KRAS, THREE MINUTES AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. 
          THIS IS, UM, HOWEVER, THERE ARE GMP FUNDS THAT ARE PERFECTLY SITUATED TO HELP OFFSET THAT COST FOR THE SHUTTLE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR, IS SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUR, THE CITY'S EACH MEMBER CITY'S PRIORITY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PERHAPS AVENUE TO, TO LOOK AT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. RICKARD? ELLIOT? TWO MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR J JUST A, YOU KNOW, QUICK, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF REBUTTALS QUITE THE RIGHT WORD. 
          I'M A LAWYER, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S WHAT I'M USED TO. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT EVERYONE HAS SHARED. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY, HEY, I, I KNOW HOW THE DYNAMICS COME ACROSS, YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT PLANO. 
          I'M ASKING TO REALLOCATE FUNDS TO PLANO. 
          I KNOW IT COMES ACROSS AS PAROCHIAL, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S INTENDED. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE ANY CITY, I, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS. 
          THAT'S JUST MY, MY PERSONAL BENT. 
          I, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANY CITY SHOULD BE THIS OUT OF WHACK IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE DISPARITY BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN AND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF DART. 
          IF THIS WERE ANY OF THE 12 MEMBER CITIES, I WOULD SAY THAT'S WRONG. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, WE SHOULD NOT BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS HUGE DISPARITY BETWEEN WHAT ANY CITY IS PAYING IN AND WHAT IT'S GETTING IN RETURN. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, YES, THIS, THIS MOTION IS ABOUT THE CITY OF PLANO, BUT TO YOUR POINT, UH, PIERCE LALE, I, I WOULD SUPPORT ANY CITY SAYING I WANT TO GET CLOSER TO WHAT I, I PAID IN. 
          I, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT'S BASIC FAIRNESS. 
          I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE EXISTING NEEDS IN THE CITY OF PLANO AND IN OTHER CITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING UNMET, AND THERE'S ENOUGH SALES TAX BEING GENERATED IN PLANO TO MEET THOSE NEEDS, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST BEING SPENT ELSEWHERE. 
          AND SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE I'M COMING ON THIS, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I, I, I DO HOPE THAT IF THE VOTE GOES THE WAY THAT IT'S SOUNDING LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO, THAT THIS DIALOGUE CONTINUES, BECAUSE I DO THINK THESE SERVICES ARE IMPORTANT AND I, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ACROSS THE REGION, UH, EACH CITY SEE A GOOD RETURN ON ITS INVESTMENT IN DART. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YOU CAN PUT ME ON FOR A QUICK ONE. 
          UM, UM, DID WE RECEIVE THIS REQUEST FROM PLANO LAST YEAR? WE DID. 
          AND, AND, AND THROUGH THE HARD WORK OF THIS BODY AND OUR MEMBER CITIES AND THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THE GRAND COMPROMISE, UM, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THE DYNAMICS OF THIS AGENCY AND, AND THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE REQUESTS FROM OUR CITIES ARE NOW DIFFERENT, UM, AS REFLECTED IN THE GMP. 
          AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY EVEN ADVOCATING THAT THE GMP FUNDS BE UTILIZED TO RECOMPENSATED FOR THIS. 
          MY POINT IS, THERE WERE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED, UM, 
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TO COMPROMISE WITH OUR CITIES. 
          WE FULFILLED AS MANY OF THEM, SOME OF THESE REQUESTS, I DO NOT, NO LONGER SEE, UH, CARRYING ON KIND OF THE BANNER OF IT. 
          I, I, I UNDERSTAND IT AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE SPIRIT AS WELL AS A, A, A BALANCED APPROACH TO IT. 
          BUT HERE'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. 
          WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGES? WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF GOLINK RIDES IN PLANO? BECAUSE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE ENTIRE CITY OF PLANO IS NOW COVERED THROUGH MULTIPLE GO ZONES. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S SIX SEVEN, CORRECT? YES. 
          AND THERE'S A ZONE TO ZONE THAT CONNECTS THREE ZONES ACROSS LIKE THE NORTHEAST, UH, YEAH. 
          NORTHEAST SIDE OF PLANO, BUT, OKAY. 
          BUT THE ENTIRE CITY IS NOW COVERED. 
          IT'S, IT IS COVERED THROUGH MULTIPLE ZONES, RIGHT? EFFECTIVE IN OCTOBER. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          EFFECTIVELY IN OCTOBER. 
          SO WE DID, WE HAVE MADE THAT CHANGE TO, TO COMPLETELY COVER THE ENTIRE CITY THROUGH MULTIPLE ZONES. 
          HE ONCE HAD ABOUT 70% COVERAGE RATIO, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT, THROUGH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THUS FAR, UM, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE FULL, BUT OF THE 70% THAT WE DID HAVE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE SEEING AS FAR AS MULTIPLE ZONES? BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA DO THIS TO JUST SOFTWARE AND IN SOME INEQUITY, AND I, I THINK IT WOULD REALLY JUST THROW THE NUMBERS COMPLETELY OUTTA WHACK THAT A $12 SUBSIDY PER RIDER WOULD NOW BECOME A 24 OR A 30 BECAUSE YOU'RE CONNECTING ONE SIDE OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER. 
          AND WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT SUBSEA PROVIDER AND EFFICIENCIES OF DOING THINGS HERE, BUT WHAT'S THE DEMAND FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WANNA TRAVEL THROUGH PLANO THROUGH MICRO TRANSIT FROM ONE SIDE OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER? IT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING WITH THIS. 
          IT IS, UM, I WOULD NEED THE SERVICE PLANNING TEAM TO, TO HELP PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ONE THING I CAN SPEAK TO IS THE ROUTE 2 34 THAT CONNECTS THE PARKER ROAD LIGHT RAIL STATION ALL THE WAY OVER, UH, TO LEGACY WEST. 
          ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE AVERAGE DAILY RIDERSHIP, UH, AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP ON THAT ROUTE, I WANT TO SAY AROUND, IS J STILL HERE? ABOUT 700 A DAY? RALPH'S HERE. 
          YEP. 
          HE'S GONNA PULL THE NUMBER FOR ME ABOUT 700 A DAY. 
          SO THEN THAT TURNS INTO 700 INCREMENTAL VEHICLE TRIPS VERSUS THE ROUTE THAT IS RUNNING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF THE, KIND OF THE POINT OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. 
          I DON'T WANT, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING ANY OF OUR SERVICE CHANGES THAT CHASES SOME END GOAL THAT IS NOT EVEN PROBABLY RELATIVELY ACCURATE THAT THIS WOULD BE SOLVING IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOLVING THE DISPARITY OF SERVICES IN THE CITY. 
          IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ENTIRE CITY COVERED, I DON'T, I MEAN, UNLESS WE'RE THINKING DART SHOULD PAY MORE MONEY, UM, BECAUSE THE COST OF A TRIP FROM ONE CITY, ONE SIDE OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER WOULD COST US MORE TO DECREASE THIS DELTA BETWEEN DOLLAR AND A DOLLAR OUT, THEN, THEN THE ISSUE STILL PREVAILS OF WHAT THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ARE. 
          UM, IF WE ARE INCREASING RIDERSHIP, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT THE SLIDE WE'RE STILL ON RIGHT NOW OF HOW WE'RE INCREASING THIS 5.3% THAT YOU JUST CALLED OUT, IT'S, IT'S THROUGH THE INCREASE OF RIDERSHIP. 
          IT'S NOT THROUGH THE, A MASSIVE ZONE THAT CREATES SOME ASTRONOMICAL COST TO DRIVE DOWN THE DELTA. 
          UM, AND SO THAT IS HOW I THINK WE, WE SAW FOR THE ISSUES OF, OF PLANO IS NOT CREATING AB AB, YOU KNOW, WELL ABOVE COST TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHAT MAY BE A FEW. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, I, I WILL NOT BE IN, IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? CHAIR SCHLEGEL? YEAH, JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO WORK ON, THIS IS NOT FOR THIS BUDGET. 
          IT'S IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, ARE OUR RATES CORRECT FOR GOLINK? AS AN EXAMPLE, SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE CYBER TAXI, WHICH, WHICH IS A DOLLAR A MILE. 
          PEOPLE GO, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU PAY FOR THAT BY ELIMINATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW TO, TO RUN GOLDLINK, IT'S A DIFFERENT MODEL. 
          SO AS TECHNOLOGY ENVI, UH, MOVES, WE NEED TO MOVE WITH IT AND TRY TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO PUT PEOPLE WHERE THEY WANNA GO, WHEN THEY WANNA GO WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO. 
          THEY PAY FOR IT IN SOME WAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S GREAT AS A USER WHEN I CAN RIDE FOR MY HOME, TAKE THE BUS, TAKE THE TRAIN, TAKE GOLDLINK AND GET TO WHERE I WANNA GO WITHIN DARK AND IT'S ONLY THREE BUCKS, BUT THAT IS TOO CHEAP AND WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO RETHINK HOW WE ARE REALLY RUNNING THIS OPERATION. 
          AND I THINK, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEW CEO COMING ON BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S 
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THE KIND OF THOUGHT THOUGHT PRESS HE HAS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE SPEAK FOR AGAINST SEEING NONE? THE MOTION IS TO AMEND TO CREATE ONE, UH, Z LINK. 
          ONE GO LINK ZONE FOR THE CITY OF PLANO, UH, WITH THE REDUCTION OF THE ROUTES CALLED INTO THE RECORD. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          ALL OPPOSED. 
          SAME SIGN, CAN'T BE BUT 10 IN FA WITH THREE IN FAVOR, TENANT OPPOSITION. 
          THE MOTION FAILS. 
          ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. 
          NO, THANK YOU FOR ASKING CHAIR. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE ARE BACK ON THE MAIN MOTION. 
          16, WHICH IS, UH, BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, HAS BEEN MOVED TO APPROVE BY, UH, UH, MR. ENOCH AND SECOND BY CHAIR SLAGEL. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MAIN MOTION TO APPROVE SAYING NONE, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTES ON YOUR MACHINE. 
          LIEUTENANT IN FAVOR TO AN OPPOSITION. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          PASSES. 
          WE WILL MOVE 
          [17. Approval of Fiscal Year 2027 20-Year Financial Plan  ]
ON TO ITEM 17, APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 20 27, 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION FOR THIS, SIR. 
          OKAY, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          NO, NO APPROVAL. 
          IT'S BEING MOVED BY CHAIR SCHLEGEL. 
          SECOND BY, UH, MR. ENOCH. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE WITH 10 IN FAVOR. 
          THREE IN OPPOSITION. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          WOW. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          THERE WILL BE NO OUTBURSTS. 
          SORRY, WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE? WHEN WAS THE LAST WE PASSED? WE PASSED LAST YEAR. 
          WE GOT ONE LAST YEAR. 
          WE PASSED LAST YEAR. 
          WE DIDN'T PASS IT YEAR BEFORE. 
          AND TECHNICALLY, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND TECHNICALLY THIS IS ONLY THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, SIR. 
          STILL HAVE ANOTHER SIR? WE'LL TAKE IT. 
          KNOCK ON WOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE 
          [18. Approval of DART Legislative Priorities for the 90th Session of the Texas  Legislature (Presenters: Gary Slagel/Kay Shelton)]
ON TO, UM, ITEM 18 APPROVAL OF DART LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 90TH SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLA TEXAS LEGISLATURE. 
          AND WE'LL, WELCOME BACK MS. SHELTON. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          KAY SHELTON, CHIEF OF STAFF. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION CONVENES IN JANUARY, JANUARY 12TH, 2027. 
          AND SO TODAY WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO, UM, ADOPT LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE AGENCY THAT WILL PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF, UM, AND OUR CONTRACTORS DURING THE NEXT SESSION. 
          AND THEN, AS USUAL, UM, AS THINGS COME UP DURING THE SESSION, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE BOARD, UM, TO AMEND THESE AND DISCUSS, UM, OTHER ISSUES ARE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, SO TODAY I'M GONNA JUST DO A QUICK RECAP OF THE 89TH SESSION, UM, REVIEW THE LEGISLATIVE, UM, ACTIVITIES LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE GMP AGREEMENT THAT WAS JUST APPROVED. 
          UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE GOVERNANCE LANGUAGE FROM THE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION WORKING GROUP, AND WE DO, THAT WAS PROVIDED IN A MEMO TO THE BOARD, AND I DON'T, I THINK DONNA HAS HANDOUTS. 
          YOU MIGHT ALREADY HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, WE'LL REVIEW THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. 
          SO I THINK MOST OF YOU, UM, REMEMBER THERE WERE SEVERAL BILLS FILED IN THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          UM, SOME THAT HAD TO DO WITH GOVERNANCE, WHICH IS OUR PRIORITY FOR THIS NEXT SESSION. 
          AND SOME THAT HAD TO DO WITH FUNDING OR CREATION OF A GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO REACH SOME COMPROMISE ON THAT AND DO A SIX YEAR GMP AGREEMENT, UM, WITH ALL OF OUR CITIES OR MOST OF THE CITIES, UM, FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS. 
          UM, AND IN THAT GMP, UM, PART OF THAT OUTCOME OF ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP LAST SESSION, UM, WE DO HAVE THE GMP AGREEMENT FOR, UM, MOST OF OUR CITIES. 
          UM, AND THEN IN SECTION SEVEN OF THE ILA, UM, THERE WAS LANGUAGE ADDED HERE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THE PARTIES AGREE TO ABSTAIN FROM LEGISLATIVE ACTION SEEKING TO AMEND 4 52 OF THE, UM, TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE TO REDUCE OR IMPAIR THE ONE SENT SALES TAX LEVY. 
          AND THAT THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE, UM, LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT WE WORK ON TOGETHER. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE FOCUSES, UM, THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE GMP WAS CREATED WAS GOVERNANCE. 
          AND SO SINCE MAY, THE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION, UM, HAS HOSTED A LEGISLATIVE WORKING GROUP WITH THE CITIES AND WITH DART STAFF, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AS A GROUP TO DEVELOP LANGUAGE, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          UM, SO WE DID MEET 
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MONTHLY, UM, AND IT HAS CHANGED OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIME, BUT WE JUST HAD OUR FINAL MEETING ON, I THINK AUGUST 26TH WAS THE FINAL MEETING OF THE GROUP. 
          AND WE ALL WERE IN AGREEMENT, UM, ON THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS PROVIDED IN A MEMO TO YOU. 
          UM, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE BOARD RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, I THINK IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH BY THE BOARD. 
          AND THE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION HAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT ALL CITIES CONSIDER ACTION ON THE GOVERNANCE ITEM AS PART OF THEIR, UH, LEGISLATIVE PROGRAMS, UM, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          UM, DALLAS AND CARROLLTON BOTH TOOK ACTION ON THE GENERAL FRAMEWORK EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE KEY, UM, KEY POINTS OF AN AGREEMENT FOR GOVERNANCE. 
          UM, IRVING AND FARMERS BRANCH HAVE BOTH RECENTLY, UM, TAKEN ACTION TO NOTE SUPPORT FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          UM, UNIVERSITY PARK ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK. 
          I BELIEVE THEY DID NOT PASS A RESOLUTION RELATED TO GOVERNANCE. 
          UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO OPPOSE IT. 
          THEY'LL PROBABLY STAY NEUTRAL ON IT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO TRACK. 
          SO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, GIVES YOU, UM, KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HOW THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE SET UP. 
          UM, YOU CAN READ THE LANGUAGE AND THE LANGUAGE BASICALLY PUTS THE FRAMEWORK AROUND IT. 
          UM, AND IT IDENTIFIES THESE FOUR POPULATION BRACKETS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS NEW STRUCTURE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, IF YOUR POPULATION IS, UM, 500,000 OR MORE THAN YOU WOULD BE ALLOCATED SEVEN MEMBERS, AND THEY WOULD SHARE A VOTING ALLOCATION OF 45%. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE CITY OF DALLAS LANDS, UM, IN THE POPULATION BRACKET TWO, THAT'S FOR BETWEEN A POPULATION OF BETWEEN 250 AND 499,000. 
          YOU CAN SEE THREE OF THE DART CITIES FALL WITHIN THAT BRACKET. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO MEMBERS, UM, ON THE BOARD, AND THEY WOULD SHARE A 9.5% VOTE AMONGST THE, THE, UH, TWO MEMBERS. 
          UM, THERE ARE TWO CITIES THAT FALL WITHIN THE THIRD BRACKET, WHICH IS 100 TO 249,000, AND THOSE CITIES WOULD GET ONE, UM, AND THEN THE REMAINING CITIES WOULD FALL IN THAT FOURTH BRACKET, AND THEY WOULD ALSO GET ONE SEAT, BUT WITH A, WITH A SMALLER SHARE, UM, BASED ON THE POPULATION. 
          AND IN THE LANGUAGE IT SETS OUT THE GENERAL FRAMEWORK. 
          AND THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS. 
          IT'S ON THE BACK OF THE FIRST PAGE OF THE HANDOUT. 
          BUT, UM, BASICALLY THIS FRAMEWORK CAN, CAN, UH, BASICALLY BE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR ANY CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, BECAUSE THE WAY THIS, UM, LANGUAGE IS SET UP IS THAT THIS WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST SIX YEARS, AND IT COULD CHANGE IF A CITY WERE TO WITHDRAW OR IF A IF CITY WERE TO BE ADDED OR IF THE POPULATION WERE TO CHANGE AND CITIES WOULD MOVE IN AND OUT OF THESE BRACKETS. 
          BUT THAT FRAMEWORK THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE TOP OF THE BACK OF THE FIRST PAGE IS REALLY THAT. 
          UM, AND THESE ARE AGAIN, THE KIND OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT EACH MUNICIPALITY IS ENTITLED TO APPOINT AT LEAST ONE MEMBER TO THE BOARD. 
          UM, A MUNICIPALITY MAY NOT SHARE A MEMBER WITH ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY, AND THIS WAS IMPORTANT FOR SEVERAL CITIES THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SEAT ON THE BOARD AND THAT A MUNICIPALITY MAY NOT CONTROL MORE THAN 50%. 
          AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER IN THE YEAR, UM, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY, UM, AGREED TO BETWEEN 40 AND 50. 
          AND WE LANDED ON 45 FOR THIS FIRST, UM, FIRST RESTRUCTURING OF THE BOARD. 
          UM, SO THAT'S AN OVERVIEW, UM, OF THE GOVERNANCE, UM, LANGUAGE. 
          IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE, UM, STAGGERED TERMS, UM, UM, JUST LIKE WE DO NOW. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING A CHANGEOVER OF THE BOARD ALL AT ONCE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE TIMELINE, UM, ASSUMING WE APPROVE OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THIS MONTH, UM, BY THE BOARD ON THE 22ND, THAT'LL GIVE US THE GREEN LIGHT TO START PUTTING TOGETHER OUR INFORMATION, UM, AND OUR LEGISLATIVE PACKETS THAT WE CAN START ADVOCATING AND EDUCATING AND BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. 
          UM, THE BILL FI PRE-FILING BEGINS NOVEMBER 9TH. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS, UM, THE, THE ACTUAL GOVERNANCE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO SENATOR TAM PARKER, UM, TO HIS OFFICE. 
          UM, HE HAS AGREED TO SPONSOR THIS ON THE HOUSE SIDE. 
          THERE'S STILL DISCUSSIONS UNDERWAY WITH, UM, SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES, BUT WE'RE MAKING GOOD MOVEMENT THERE ON THE SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          UM, SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE WHAT IS IN EXHIBIT ONE TO THE RESOLUTION. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE ITEMS ON HERE THAT WE WANNA SUPPORT, UM, THAT WE WANNA OPPOSE AND THAT WE WANNA MONITOR. 
          AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH, WITH HOW WE'VE SET UP OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES IN THE PAST. 
          SO ON THE SUPPORT SIDE, THERE ARE THREE BULLETS LISTED. 
          UM, THESE ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE, UM, DONE IN THE PAST. 
          UM, BUT WHAT WE DID ADD WAS, UM, LEGISLATION AMENDING OUR STATUTE FOR THE NEW BOARD GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. 
          SO THAT'S FRONT AND CENTER AS OUR MAIN PRIORITY FOR THE NEXT SESSION. 
          UM, LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET TO THE REGION AND TO OUR CITIES. 
          THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR, OUR LAST 
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SESSIONS PRIORITIES AS WELL. 
          AND WE DECIDED TO KEEP THAT HERE AS WELL AS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA CONTINUE TO, UM, TO SUPPORT IF THERE'S THINGS LIKE NEW FUNDING, NEW BUSINESS PROCESSES, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT MAKE US BE, UM, MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT WE PROVIDE OUR SERVICES. 
          UM, AND THEN ENHANCED CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR OFFENSES COMMITTED IN A VEHICLE OPERATED BY A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME TO THE LEGISLATURE IN THE PAST. 
          IT HASN'T HAD MUCH MOVEMENT, BUT IF IT DOES COME BACK, WE DO WANNA BE THERE TO SUPPORT IT AS THIS IS SAFETY IS IMPORTANT ALSO FOR THE OPERATORS, UM, IN OUR SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR WRITERS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WANNA OPPOSE AGAIN, LEGISLATION THAT COULD SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACT OUR VOTER APPROVED 1 CENT SALES TAX, OUR DEBT OBLIGATIONS, BONDS, UM, AND OR THAT WOULD INVOLVE EXPANSION OF ALLOWABLE USES UNDER 4 52. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST SESSION, AND THIS GETS BACK TO THE, UM, CREATION OF DART AND THE VOTER APPROVAL TO CREATE DART TO SUPPORT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO WE DO WANNA KEEP THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, VOTER APPROVAL TO CREATE DART BACK IN 1983. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS LISTED HERE TO CLOSELY MONITOR. 
          UM, AGAIN, JUST IN GENERAL LEGISLATION AMENDING, UM, CHAPTER 4 52, UM, DART'S ENABLING STATUTE IN PARTICULAR, UM, LEGISLATION AMENDING THE TAX CODE RELATED TO TRANSIT SALES AND USE TAX, UM, LEGISLATION THAT MIGHT PURSUE THE DIFFERENT GOALS OF TRANSIT 2.0 THAT THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UM, RECENTLY ADOPTED, UM, LEGISLATION AMENDING CHAPTER 5 51, 5 52, UM, RELATED TO OPEN MEETINGS AND OPEN RECORDS. 
          AND THERE WERE SOME CHANGES LAST SESSION I THINK THAT CAME IN TERMS OF POSTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO WE'LL KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT. 
          UM, CHAPTER 1 0 1, UM, CIVIL PRACTICE AND REMEDIES CODE AND TORT CLAIMS. AGAIN, THESE THINGS ARE OF INTEREST TO BOARD SUPPORT AND TO OUR GENERAL COUNSEL. 
          AND THEN WE DID ADD, UM, THE BOTTOM TWO THAT YOU SEE THERE, LEGISLATION PROVIDING GUIDANCE ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BECAUSE THAT IS, UM, BECOMING MORE PREVALENT AND WE JUST APPROVED A, A DIRECTIVE TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR AGENCY AND THEN REGULATION RELATED TO, UM, AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING, UM, THAT WILL BECOME, IT'S OBVIOUS THEY'RE OUT THERE NOW. 
          UM, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PART OF OUR SERVICE OFFERING AGAIN, AS WE START LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR, OUR GOLINK UM, PROGRAM. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, APPROVE THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT ONE, AND I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE WE GO INTO DISCUSSION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE AND WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN, UM, AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE RESOLUTION. 
          UM, THIS THREE OR FOUR PAGE DOCUMENT HERE REPRESENTS THE BILL LANGUAGE THAT WAS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN PRIMARILY MYSELF, DART STAFF, UM, AND THE MEMBER CITIES IN COORDINATION WITH NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION. 
          THIS HAS BEEN SENT TO, UM, AS KAY POINTED OUT TO, UH, WHO HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH SENATOR TAN PARKER'S OFFICE AND HAS BEEN SENT TO HIS OFFICE. 
          AND IT'S NOW IN REVIEW AT ALLEGED COUNSEL FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES. 
          THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE OR DISCUSSION. 
          THIS PART HERE, MORE THAN LIKELY IT WILL CHANGE COMING OUT OF LEDGE COUNSEL ANYWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S UP FOR THIS DISCUSSION AND DEBATE, IF WE GO BACK A SLIDE OR TWO ARE THE, UM, MORE GENERAL GENERALIZATION OF LEGISLATION AMENDING DARCY NALIN STATUTE. 
          SO THESE ARE THE PARTS UP FOR DEBATE. 
          THIS IS FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE A RECORD OF WHAT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED AND AGREED UPON BY ALL CITIES EXCEPT UNIVERSITY PARK UP UNTIL THIS POINT. 
          SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY MOTIONS ON THIS LANGUAGE HERE. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY DISCUSS YOU CAN DISCUSS THIS, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY MOTIONS TO BE MADE ON THIS. 
          OKAY? ALRIGHT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. 
          MAYOR SOFFER. 
          SO THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WITH 2.0 AND THE TALK OF NEW MEMBERS AND DART BEING CONNECTED TO OTHER CITIES, HOW WILL THAT, IN THIS, IT REALLY DOESN'T TALK ABOUT DO THEY GET A SEAT? DO THEY HAVE TO PAY A PENNY IF THEY PAY LESS THAN A PENNY, DO THEY GET PARTIAL SEATS? UH, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU REALLY, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT MICHAEL'S REALLY PUSHING AND THAT'S WHY I MADE THE STATEMENT I MADE EARLIER. 
          AND ALSO, UH, IN THIS LEGISLATION, DOES IT ALLOW US TO GIVE AWAY PART OF THE REAL ESTATE WE HAVE? FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT IS THE SILVER LINE AND THE TRE BEING MORE OF A REGIONAL AND BEING PAID FOR DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO DOES THIS LEGISLATION ADDRESS THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS OR IS THIS, CAN WE REALLY EVEN MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THAT DURING THE NEXT SIX YEARS WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING IN THIS LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS US 
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TO DO THAT? THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU WANNA TAKE IT? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, SO I THINK RELATIVE TO CHANGING, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THE GOVERNANCE, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT, IT ASSUMES THE FULL PENNY RIGHT? FROM THE CITIES AS IS. 
          I THINK IF THERE WAS SOMETHING TO CHANGE REGIONALLY THAT HAD NEW, A NEW STRUCTURE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD REPLACE THIS, RIGHT? THERE COULD BE SOMETHING SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE. 
          THERE ALSO IS THE CLOSELY MONITOR, RIGHT, THE GOALS OF THE 2.0 STUDY. 
          AND SO THERE IS A TRANSIT SUBCOMMITTEE THAT MEETS REGULARLY FOR THAT, AND THEY DO LOOK AT ITEMS AROUND GOVERNANCE AND NEW FUNDING SOURCES. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW, IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THERE'S A MEETING COMING UP THIS WEEK, UH, YES, THIS WEEK ON THURSDAY, THERE'S A MEETING OF THAT TRANSIT SUBCOMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT GOVERNANCE AND STRUCTURES, RIGHT? FOR REGIONAL RAIL IN PARTICULAR AND WHAT SOME NEW FUNDING SOURCES COULD BE POTENTIALLY FOR THAT. 
          BUT, UH, FOR, WE JUST WANNA CLOSELY MONITOR THAT. 
          IT'S, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE READY TO PUSH AT THIS SESSION, UH, BEYOND GOVERNANCE RESPOND. 
          SORRY, I'M JUST GONNA RESPOND TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UNDER SECTION 4 52 5 7 7, IT'S LIKE THE SECOND TO LAST PAGE, UH, SECTION B, IT SAYS THE BOARD OF A SUB-REGIONAL AUTHORITY MAY BE RESTRUCTURED UNDER SECTION A ONE NO SOONER THAN SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2031. 
          THIS SUBSECTION EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2031. 
          SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE DURING THIS PERIOD, IT WAS AGREED UPON THAT WE, UNTIL WE HAD A, UH, THE NEXT CENSUS, THAT WE WOULD NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS. 
          NOW, WHAT IT ALSO DOES THEN IS WHEN THE, EITHER THE CENSUS COMES IN IN 20 30, 20 30 FOR THE A 2031, UM, REAPPROPRIATION AND OR ANY CHANGES TO, UM, THE BOARD COMPOSITION BASED UPON EITHER WITHDRAWAL ELECTIONS, LET'S JUST BE HONEST, RIGHT, THAT THE ENTIRE COMPOSITION EXPIRES AND THEN THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO THEN MAKE THOSE CHANGES. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT LANGUAGE MEANS. 
          I JUST WANNA BE, BE CLEAR WITH EVERYONE THAT WE WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE BOARD. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, CLEARLY THERE CANNOT BE ANY WITHDRAWAL ELECTIONS. 
          SO THE ONLY THOUGHT WOULD BE, WOULD ANY CITY, UH, VOTE INTO DART IN, IN THIS GMP PERIOD AND THIS, UH, TWO LEGISLATIVE OR THREE LEGISLATIVE PERIOD, UM, AND THE GMP AGREEMENT PERIOD. 
          SO DURING THE PERIOD, THE CONTEMPLATION IS NO CHANGES TO THE BOARD AFTER THE GMP EXPIRES, RIGHT? LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT THAT PART TOO. 
          AND IF THERE ISN'T A CONTINUANCE OF THAT, UM, A, A CENSUS AND A REAPPROPRIATION OF THE BOARD AND OR CITIES THAT WITHDREW OR STAYED IN OR GOT ADDED, THAT THE BOARD THEN HAS THE, THE AUTHORITY TO, UM, PUT IN PLACE WHAT IN A ANY CHANGES WOULD BE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT SECTION MEANS. 
          SO, PARDON MY IGNORANCE. 
          SO BASICALLY WE CAN'T, AM I ON? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          CAN WE, SO WE REALLY CAN'T, UH, CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF DART TILL 2031. 
          WE CAN, WE NEVER COULD. 
          THE STATE ALWAYS HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT WITHOUT THE LEGISLATION BEING CHANGED. 
          YEAH. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION AGAIN. 
          SO ALL THE DISCUSSIONS AT 2.0 ARE SUBJECT TO NOT REALLY BE ENACTED TILL 31. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, THIS IS, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YEAH. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN THE BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE 5 CENTS NOW, BUT I'M GOING TO 10. 
          BUT EVENTUALLY, IF WE SOLD OFF OR CREATED IT BY SELLING OFF CREATING ANOTHER ENTITY THAT WAS A REGIONAL ENTITY, THEN THEY WOULD SET UP A SEPARATE FUNDING. 
          OR IF WE HAD PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING WITH TWO OR THREE CITIES NOW THAT WANT DART TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THEM MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          AND SO HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? DOES DART JUST TO KEEP THE MONEY OR DO THEY GIVE PART OF, WITH A NEW INCREASE IN SERVICES, DOES PART OF THAT COME BACK TO THE CITIES? I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, LOT OF QUESTIONS ON HOW THAT ALL IN INTEGRATES AND I'M JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LEGISLATION TO PREVENT US FROM HAVING THAT KIND OF SURE. 
          DISCUSSION OR, OR TALKING ABOUT THOSE TYPE OF DOLLARS AND HOW THEY'D BE UTILIZED. 
          SO, AND WE GOT TIME TO WORK ON IT. 
          AND I MAY BE WAY OUT IN RIGHT FIELD, BUT I JUST HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH MICHAEL LAST WEEK AND HE TALKED TO, HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE THINGS AND SO I, I THINK WE'LL SEE SOMETHING COMING BEFORE 31. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'LL, AND, AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WILL RESPOND TO THAT IS THIS GOVERNANCE ONLY CONTEMPLATES THE CURRENT SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, THAT WE'RE IN. 
          UM, I'M ALL FOR THE 2.0 IN NEW CITIES AND REDUCTION AND ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          WHAT MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE WAS WOULD THAT IS THAT THE LEGISLATION WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE TO MAKE THAT WORK ANYWAYS. 
          SO IF WE'RE CHANGING IT AT THAT POINT, THEN THIS WOULD CHANGE BY DEFAULT. 
          YEAH. 
          GMPS WOULD WITHOUT 
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BE OUT THE DOOR, ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD BE OUT THE DOOR. 
          IF SOMETHING MORE HOLISTICALLY CHANGED, THIS WOULD BE A MATERIAL CHANGE OF THAT GREATER CHANGE. 
          YOU JUST REMINDED ME THAT WE CAN CHANGE IT EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THIS, THIS TWO YEARS, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE . 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE, UH, ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOT OVER HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON? Y'ALL NEED TO GET LIKE THEM OVER HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUST GONNA GO IN ORDER. 
          MS. JUAN KRAUS. 
          MR. ELLI, THEN MR. GRADING NOT MISSING ANYONE. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. JUAN KRAUS. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND BETTER, UM, THE, UH, COMPOSITION OF THE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION. 
          COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR ME? THE, IT'S AN ADVOCACY GROUP, UM, THAT HAS, IT HAS SEVERAL PEOPLE ON, ON THE BOARD,  FROM DIFFERENT AGENCIES, FROM CITIES, FROM PRIVATE BUSINESSES. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE VERY SET UP SIMILAR TO LIKE THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER. 
          SO THEY ARE KIND OF A REGIONAL ADVOCACY GROUP. 
          AND, UM, THEY KNOW THAT TRANSIT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE REGION AND THEY'VE BEEN HELPING US WORK THROUGH SOME OF OUR, UM, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITIES ON VARIOUS TOPICS. 
          THEY'RE NOT PART OF A QUASI-GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NO. 
          AND THEY, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE MEMBER CITIES, CITY MANAGERS, UM, DART LEADERSHIP AND OUR CHAIR, CORRECT? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT, SIMILAR TO WHAT MAYOR HAD BROUGHT UP 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA OPEN UP OUR, OUR ENABLING STATUTE MORE THAN YOU NEED TO. 
          SO IT'S BETTER TO DO IT IN ONE WHACK THAN, YOU KNOW, LITTLE SEVERAL OPENINGS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THE C LEGISLATURE. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MR. ELLI, THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, KAY. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, I ONLY HAVE, UH, ONE, UH, THOUGHT OR, OR AT LEAST ONE CHANGE ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. 
          IT'S THE SECOND BULLET POINT UNDER SUPPORT ON THE SLIDE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS DART'S STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE AN ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET TO THE REGION. 
          UM, THAT OBVIOUSLY IS VERY BROAD CATCHALL LANGUAGE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          AND, UH, I, I SEE, UH, DIRECTOR JUAN KRAUS NODDING HER HEAD. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE LAWYERS IN THE ROOM THAT THAT'S VAGUE AND AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE AND UH, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT CONCERNS ME FOR THAT REASON BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY I THINK, UM, WHAT COULD END UP HAPPENING IS WHOEVER IS, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM BEING TASKED WITH, UH, IMPLEMENTING THIS IS JUST GONNA HAVE TO MAKE JUDGMENT CALLS. 
          DOES THIS SUPPORT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE AN ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET TO THE REGION WITHOUT ANY MEANINGFUL GUIDANCE FROM THE BOARD ON WHAT THAT MEANS? AND SO THAT ESSENTIALLY GIVES A BLANK CHECK TO THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM. 
          IN MY MIND THAT RESULTS IN THE BOARD, UH, ABDICATING ITS DUTY TO ACTUALLY MAKE A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT SETS MEANINGFUL LIMITS ON WHAT WE SUPPORT AND WHAT WE DON'T SUPPORT. 
          UH, AND UH, ACCORDINGLY, UH, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THIS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, BUT WITH THIS SECOND BULLET POINT UNDER SUPPORT MOVED TO CLOSELY MONITOR. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN CLOSELY MONITOR ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE AN ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET TO THE REGION. 
          BUT ONCE WE HAVE MORE DETAILS ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE ACTUALLY WANT TO SUPPORT, THAT CAN COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO SEE IF THE BOARD ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER APPROACH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT AS A MOTION QUITE YET. 
          I GOT YOU. 
          I GOT YOU. 
          SORRY TO BE PREMATURE. 
          NO, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          UH, MR. GRADY, THREE MINUTES. 
          WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'M GOING TO, UH, TAKE IT MAYBE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. 
          HAVING WORKED AS AN ADVOCATE IN AUSTIN AND WASHINGTON, DC FOR THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE AND FROM THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND FOR VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, UM, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE STAFF ON WHAT THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER HERE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          UM, TOO OFTEN I SEE ORGANIZATIONS WAITING FOR TWO BELLS. 
          THE FIRST BELL IS RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION AND THEY START TALKING WITH LEGISLATORS ABOUT WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          AND THE SECOND BELL IS AFTER BILLS START GETTING FILED IN JANUARY AND THEY START TALKING WITH LEGISLATORS ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE NEXT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, UM, I HAVE ADVISED THEM MANY, MANY TIMES, UM, THAT THAT IS TOO LATE, UH, THAT WE NEED TO CONNECT WITH ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER THEY ARE LOOKING FOR REELECTION OR A NEW ELECTION. 
          UM, WE NEED TO CONNECT WITH THEM EARLY. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PLAN IS DOING JUST THAT. 
          AND I BELIEVE FROM JUST TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, THE SURFACE OF IT HERE, UH, IT WILL BE, UH, SUCCESSFUL. 
          SO I, I DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE STAFF ON THEIR APPROACH. 
          I THINK THE, UH, THE NTC UM, IS ALSO, UM, VERY AWARE 
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OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITHIN THE REGION. 
          THEY'RE VERY POWERFUL IN THE REGION. 
          THEY PAY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ATTENTION TO STATE LEGISLATION AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION, ESPECIALLY STATE. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'LL BE A, A VERY GOOD FORCE TO HAVE WITH US. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, I WOULD SAY SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, THAT DIRECTOR ENOCH BROUGHT UP, UM, UH, IN, IN GENERAL CONVERSATION, UH, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT AI, UM, I TO USE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          UM, SOME OF THE AI TOOLS THAT ARE, ARE, WERE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME, THEY'RE MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED NOW, BUT I PUT IN KEYWORD SEARCHES IN THERE FOR CERTAIN PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND FOUND BILLS COMING OUT OF COMMITTEES YOU WOULD NEVER EXPECT COME OUT OF THOSE COMMITTEES. 
          BUT THAT WOULD AFFECT VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE WERE WATCHING. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO USE A TOOL, UH, SUCH AS AI, IT IS SOMETHING TO WATCH BILLS BEYOND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS ALREADY PROVIDING YOU OFF OF THE WEBSITE THAT FINDS THOSE KEYWORDS AND TERMS WITHIN BILLS COMING OUT OF COMMITTEES THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK WOULD EVER AFFECT TRANSPORTATION WHATSOEVER OR EVER LOOK AT IT. 
          AND THEY DO. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAIR SLAGEL. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE WERE IN, UH, UNIVERSITY PARK. 
          THEY WEREN'T VOTING AGAINST THIS BILL REALLY. 
          THEY WERE, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN AND SU AND GET EXCITED ABOUT SUPPORTING SOMETHING WHEN WHAT THEY REALLY WANT IS THE GMP AND, AND BECAUSE THEY CALLED AN ELECTION, UH, THEY AREN'T A ELIGIBLE FOR THE GMP. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT DAVID WAS WITH ME. 
          UH, WE ANSWERED A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT EVENING, UH, NONE OF WHICH HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 
          THEY, THEY JUST, THEY THOUGHT ENDORSING THIS WOULD MEAN THEY ENDORSED DART IN GENERAL AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT THE GMP. 
          SO THAT'S ALL HE WAS . 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. ABBA? THREE MINUTES. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          YEAH, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE NEED HERE. 
          UM, IT IS SEPTEMBER, THE SESSION STARTS IN JANUARY. 
          NO BILLS HAVE BEEN FILED. 
          IF SOMETHING GETS FILED, WE WANNA SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          THE GOVERNANCE OF THE AGENCY'S NOT UP TO US. 
          NO GOVERNMENT AGENCY SHOULD BE TAKING A POSITION ON HOW THEY ARE GOVERNED. 
          THAT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATORS. 
          THAT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S UP TO THE MEMBER CITIES, NOT US. 
          UH, THE REST OF THIS IS, UH, VAGUE AND SUBJECTIVE. 
          AND TO ME, THAT'S WHERE PROBLEMS GET CREATED. 
          I THINK THE BETTER APPROACH IS TO, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE WANNA SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TAKE A POSITION, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          AND FRANKLY, THE REST OF IT'S HOW WE GET INTO, UM, A LOT OF CONFLICT. 
          BUT I, AGAIN, THE GOVERNANCE PIECE IS REALLY ALL THAT'S IN HERE. 
          THAT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. 
          THE MEMBER CITIES HAVE MADE A DEAL. 
          IT'S THEIR AGREEMENT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THEY NEED TO GO TAKE CARE OF. 
          IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. ENOCH FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS, IS THERE A DEPARTURE, SUBSTANTIAL DEPARTURE, UH, FROM PAST HISTORY ON HOW WE'RE DOING THIS? NO, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME. 
          NO, IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR. 
          AND EV AND EVERY YEAR WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WE GET CLOSER AND WE GET BETTER VISION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, ON WHAT'S HAPPENING, THE BOARD IS BROUGHT BACK INVOLVED AND THE BOARD IS INVOLVED IN HOW WE POSITION OURSELVES WITH PARTICULAR, WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, CORRECT? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THEN AS YOU GET CLOSER AND THE BILLS START TAKING SHAPE AND PERHAPS CHANGE ON AN HOUR BY HOUR BASIS, THE, THE CHAIR TYPICALLY PUTS TOGETHER, UH, STAFF AND A FEW BOARD MEMBERS ON THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM WHO MAKE THE CALLS. 
          AND WHEN HE CAN, SHE CAN BRINGS IT BACK TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION. 
          BUT OTHERWISE, ACTS REALLY ON A 24 7 BASIS DURING THE, THE HEAT OF THE LEGISLATIVE BATTLE. 
          CORRECT? YES. 
          SO REALLY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST MM-HMM . 
          X YEARS, AND WE HAVE, UH, GOOD PEOPLE IN AUSTIN TO HELP US. 
          AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FEELERS OUT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'LL BE, UH, SUPPORTING THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A FOUR AGAINST ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MR. LOPEZ? THREE, THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          WASN'T THERE, UM, PROVISIONS RELATED TO A REGIONAL REGION RE A REGIONAL RAIL AUTHORITY THAT NEED TO BE MONITORED? AND WHERE, WHERE DO WE STAND ON THAT? I THINK THAT'S, UM, IT'S PRIMARILY COVERED IN THE TRANSIT 2.0 BULLET. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AS PART OF THE RTCS TRANSIT VISION SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          AND THAT'S THAT MEETING I MENTIONED, THEIR SUBCOMMITTEE IS ACTUALLY MEETING THIS WEEK AND THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING, THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE 
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OUT THERE FOR REGIONAL RURAL AUTHORITY. 
          AND SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA, I MEAN, THIS THURSDAY, PAUL CHRISTINA'S ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE THAT PRESENTATION, BUT WE DO HAVE A WORKING GROUP WE MEET EVERY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. 
          UM, BUT UM, HE'S GOING TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT AND WHAT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDING OPTIONS COULD BE TO HELP FUND THAT IF THERE WAS A NEW STRUCTURE SET UP FOR REGIONAL RAIL. 
          DO WE ANTICIPATE ANY FUNDING SOURCES AT THE STATE LEVEL COMING AS A RESULT? NOT THIS SESSION. 
          UM, NOT THIS SESSION. 
          UM, I THINK WE, WE WANNA GET TOGETHER AS A REGION AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING DOWN THERE WITH SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN GET BEHIND. 
          BUT THEN THE ENABLING LEGISLATION WOULD COME OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE WITH REGARD TO THE REGIONAL RAIL AUTHORITY POTENTIALLY, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE AT A FUTURE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          AND JUST, JUST WANTED TO, UH, KIND OF MENTION UNFUNDED MANDATES, UH, ARE SOMETHING THAT, UH, SEEM TO BE COMING OUT MORE AND MORE FROM THE LEGISLATURE. 
          UM, I MEAN, THAT IS NOT COVERED UNDER YOUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, UH, BUT MAYBE IT SHOULD BECAUSE THOSE HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF REALLY DISRUPTING OUR OPERATIONS AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING. 
          IT'S LIKE, UH, UM, GRADY SAID, YOU, YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA COME FROM. 
          SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING RELATED TO IMMIGRATION, IT COULD BE SOMETHING RELATED TO ALTERNATIVE FUELS, SEAT BELTS, YOU, YOU NAME IT MM-HMM . 
          SO YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE WILL, EVEN IF IT'S NOT LISTED HERE, WE'LL KEEP OUR EYE KIND OF LIKE WHAT, UH, MR. GRADY JUST SAID. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU CAN USE DIFFERENT TOOLS AND DO SOME OF THOSE KEYWORD SEARCHES AND SEE WHAT MIGHT COME OUT THAT MIGHT AFFECT US. 
          AND WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MS. SWAN KRAUS FOR TWO MINUTES? THANKS. 
          UM, YEAH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. 
          UM, I THINK IT IS A FIDUCIARY DUTY AS, UM, BOARD MEMBERS TO WEIGH IN ON THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. 
          UM, WE WOULD NOT BE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO TO ADEQUATELY STEWARD THIS AGENCY IF WE DID NOT MONITOR AND WEIGH IN WHEN NECESSARY, UM, TO LEGISLATION THAT EFFECTIVELY, UM, UH, DEALS WITH OUR AGENCY. 
          SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU MR. RICKARD. 
          DAILY FOR A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE, UH, AMENDMENT THAT THE SECOND BULLET POINT UNDER SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS DART'S STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE AN ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET TO THE REGION, BE MOVED FROM SUPPORT TO CLOSELY MONITOR. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND YOU CAN PUT ME ON FOR THREE. 
          UH, NUMBER ONE. 
          KAY. 
          AND, AND JI AND DEMARCUS AND, AND AARON, THE FULL TEAM. 
          UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CONTINUAL HARD WORK, UM, THAT GOES INTO DEVELOPING THE PRIORITIES THAT HAS GONE INTO THE COUNTLESS MEETINGS. 
          UM, I KNOW FOR A FACT 'CAUSE I WAS AT PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM, UM, THAT HAS GOTTEN US UP TO THIS POINT, A POINT THAT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE OPERATIONS, NOT JUST OF DART, BUT ALSO OF OUR MEMBER CITIES OF OF OF ALL CITIES AND COUNTIES AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND YOU WATER BOARDS AND WHOMEVER ELSE THAT DEPEND ON THE LEGISLATIVE, UM, SESSION FOR CHANGES TO, UM, LAWS THAT AFFECT THEM. 
          UH, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEW, THIS PROCESS. 
          AND IN FACT, UM, THE PROCESS ITSELF WENT THROUGH THE EXACT SAME PROCESS LAST TIME. 
          AND WHEN BILLS START TO GET FILED, WE AMEND OUR LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME. 
          OH, SORRY, NOT OUR SESSION, OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. 
          WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ALWAYS COME BACK AND AMEND THOSE IF NEED BE. 
          CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE DID THAT LAST YEAR, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, THE PREMISE OF IT'S NOT DART'S DUTY TO DETERMINE THE GOVERNANCE IN MY OPINION, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE COUNTERS SPECIFICALLY AND EXACTLY WHAT THE LEGISLATURE BOTH IN THE SENATE AND ON THE HOUSE TOLD US LAST YEAR WHEN THEY FILED TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THEY FILED THE BILLS, WHICH WAS FIX THIS AT HOME. 
          YOU NEED BOTH PARTIES TO DO THAT. 
          UM, THAT WASN'T A DIRECTIVE GIVEN TO JUST THE MEMBER CITIES TO FIX THIS AT HOME. 
          IT WAS A DIRECTIVE GIVEN TO BOTH THE MEMBER CITIES AND TO DARK. 
          AND MANY OF US HAVE WORKED WITH THE NTC, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, UH, TJ GILMORE, MAYOR OF LEWISVILLE AND, AND, AND, UH, CHRIS, UM, STEPPED UP AND STEPPED IN, UM, AT A VERY CRUCIAL MOMENT TO ESTABLISH THE 
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CITY MANAGER'S WORKING GROUP AND THEN CONTINUE IT ON, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH THE WITHDRAWAL ELECTION PROCESS AND, AND, AND EVEN AFTER. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS IS NOT JUST A, BECAUSE NOT ONE AGENCY OR ONE CITY OR ONE PERSON, UH, OR ONE STRATEGY, OR ONE JUST GOVERNANCE OR JUST TMP IS GOING TO SOLVE, UH, THE ISSUES. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO SOLVE FOR WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TO SOLVE IS THE GOVERNANCE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S TRIED TO BE CURTAILED AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO ONLY ADDRESS THE GOVERNANCE. 
          UM, I'M WITH MOST OF YOU ALL ON THE FUNDING PART OF IT. 
          YOU CAN ROLL ME TO IT TOO. 
          UM, I'M, UH, AS FAR AS OTHER WAYS TO FUND TRANSIT, NOT JUST AT DART, NOT JUST IN NORTH TEXAS, BUT ACROSS THE STATE, UM, YOU'VE SEEN ENOUGH THINGS THAT I'VE PUT OUT, WHETHER THAT'S THE GMP OR OTHER, UM, IDEAS TO, TO BELIEVE THAT, UM, THOUGHT OF MINE. 
          SO, BUT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW AND WHAT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON, AND THERE'S NO POINT OF US GOING BEYOND WHAT IS AGREED UPON IS FOR THE GOVERNANCE. 
          AND, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, UM, BUT WHEN MY, WHEN MY HEAD ITCHES, I, I HAVE TO SCRATCH IT, UM, TO ANY CITY IT'S IN OTHER THAN DALLAS, UM, I PROMISE YOU THAT, THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT TO YOU ALL, UM, EVEN TO UNIVERSITY PARK, UM, BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE GOING FROM NO REPRESENTATION TO SOME REPRESENTATION. 
          AND THAT WAS A CALL OUT THAT WAS, UM, MADE LAST, LAST CYCLE. 
          SO IF , IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO, WANTS TO, WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, UM, I PROMISE YOU DART STAFF WOULD LOVE TO DEAL WITH SIX LESS PEOPLE AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, TRAVEL BUDGET OF, OF LESS AND LESS PARKING SPACES AND LESS CRAMPINESS UP HERE. 
          AND DALLAS RETAINED 52% OF, OF THE BOARD. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE AND THEY WERE LED BY ME. 
          SO I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF IT EITHER. 
          I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGE AND, AND US MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT I PROMISE YOU ALL THE HELL WE WENT THROUGH TO GET HERE. 
          UM, DALLAS AND DART WOULD PROBABLY NOT FIRST PUT THIS UP AS A CHANGE TO THE GOVERNANCE HERE. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NEW TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR ALL. 
          SO, UM, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE MOTION, UH, MADE BY MR. ELLI TO APPROVE IT WITH, UH, THAT, UH, MINOR CHANGE. 
          WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THE MACHINE. 
          THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE. 
          THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS HE AMENDED IT, TO MOVE TO MOVE. 
          NUMBER TWO DOWN TO, UM, CLOSELY MONITOR WITH NINE IN FAVOR, ONE ABSTENTION. 
          THREE. 
          AND OPPOSITION TO MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE WILL MOVE, WE'LL MOVE ON 
          [19. *Briefing on Fiscal Year 2026 Third Quarter Ridership and Route Performance  Update (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Trenise Winters) ]
TO BRIEFING OF, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2026. 
          2026. 
          THIRD QUARTER RIDERSHIP AND RAP PERFORMANCE UPDATE. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING BOARD, RALPH PARKER. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH OUR THIRD CORE RIDERSHIP AND ROUTE PERFORMANCE. 
          WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT FOR THIS, UM, REPORT, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FY 26 QUARTER THREE, DATA COVERING APRIL AND JUNE OF THIS YEAR. 
          WE WILL SEE SOME WORLD CUP RIDERSHIP IMPACTS, UH, ON THE JUNE RAIL SERVICE. 
          UH, THEY DID NOT AFFECT, UH, OTHER MODES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. 
          SO, LOOKING AT OUR SYSTEM RIDERSHIP OVERALL, WE HAD A TOTAL SYSTEM RIDERSHIP OF 13 POINT A HALF MILLION RIDERS, OR THAT WAS A DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR, UH, THE SAME TIME OF 1.9%. 
          LOOKING AT OUR RIDERSHIP BY MODE, 49.4% OF OUR RIDERSHIP IS ON BUS, FOLLOWED BY LIGHT RAIL AT 39.7%. 
          MICRO TRANSIT, WHICH IS OUR GOAL ONLY PROGRAM AT 4.3%. 
          AND THEN C COMMUTER RAIL, PARATRANSIT AND STREETCAR. 
          LOOKING AT A RIDERSHIP BY CITY, UH, DALLAS CARRIED THE MOST RIDERS, FOLLOWED BY GARLAND, IRVING, RICHARDSON, AND PLANO. 
          LOOKING 
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AT OUR RIDERSHIP BY, UM, ANNUAL COMPARISON. 
          UH, OVERALL, WE DID HAVE SOME CITIES UP, UH, OVERALL WITH ADDISON CARROLLTON, COCKLE HILL, UM, AT THE TOP THERE, FOLLOWED BY PLANO WAS UP AS WELL. 
          RICHARDSON WAS UP AND UNIVERSITY PARK, HIGHLAND PARK IS ON HERE. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THEY DID CARRY OVER INTO QUARTER THREE. 
          THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME YOU SEE HIGHLAND PARK. 
          UH, IN THIS REPORT. 
          LOOKING AT OUR BUS AVERAGE DAILY RIDERSHIP FOR QUARTER THREE, WE CARRIED 6.7 MILLION RIDERS WITH AN AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP OF 82,800. 
          THAT WAS DOWN 5.6%. 
          SATURDAYS WAS ALSO DOWN 7.7% AND SUNDAYS WAS DOWN 5.6% AS WELL. 
          LOOKING AT OUR LIGHT RAIL AVERAGE, UM, DAILY RIDERSHIP, WE CARRIED 5.3 MILLION RIDERS FOR QUARTER THREE OF THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP WAS 65,300. 
          WE WERE DOWN ONE AND A 5%. 
          SATURDAYS WE WERE DOWN 1.9%. 
          SUNDAYS WE WERE EVEN, UH, WE WERE ACTUALLY UP BY LIKE 300 RIDERS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UH, LOOKING AT THE MONTHLY BREAKDOWNS BY LIGHT RAIL, WE WERE DOWN 8% IN APRIL, DOWN 4.6% IN MAY, AND WE WERE UP 8.3% IN JUNE LOOKING OUR COMMUTER RAIL AVERAGE DAILY RIDERSHIP FOR A QUARTER OF THREE, WE CARRIED OVER 513,000 RIDERS. 
          SO THE AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP OF 6,600, THAT WAS UP 45.7%. 
          SATURDAYS WAS ALSO UP 41.5%. 
          SUNDAYS YOU DON'T SEE A COMPARISON BECAUSE THAT'S MOSTLY SILVER LINE RIDERSHIP THERE. 
          UH, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME TRE RIDERSHIP JUST DUE TO THE WORLD, WORLD CUP AND SOME OTHER EVENTS. 
          SO AVERAGE SUNDAY RIDERSHIP WAS 2,700. 
          LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWNS HERE, YOU CAN SEE FOR APRIL WE WERE UP 31.4%. 
          MAY WE'RE UP 33.7%. 
          IN JUNE, WE WERE UP 73%. 
          SO LET'S BREAK OUT THE COMMUTER RAIL. 
          LOOKING AT OUR TRE RIDERSHIP FOR QUARTER THREE, WE, UH, CARRIED 354,100 RIDERS. 
          AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP WAS DOWN 8.3%. 
          SATURDAYS WE WERE EVEN LOOKING AT THE MONTHLY BREAKDOWNS. 
          IN APRIL, WE WERE DOWN 8.3% IN MAY CARRIED OVER 4,000 RIDERS, BUT WE WERE DOWN 10.7% OR AVERAGE WEEKDAY IN JUNE, AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP WAS UP 26.8% AT 5,600 RIDERS. 
          AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS PART OF THE, UH, EFFECTS OF THE WORLD CUP. 
          LOOKING AT SILVER LINE RIDERSHIP, UH, AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP FOR QUARTER THREE WAS 1,900 RIDERS. 
          SATURDAYS IS 1,300. 
          SUNDAYS IS 1.1. 
          LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWNS, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE GROWING INCREMENTALLY HERE. 
          FOR THE SILVER LINE. 
          IN APRIL, WE CARRIED 1,890, UH, AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERS IN MAY, IT WAS 1.98. 
          IN JUNE, WE ECLIPSED TO 2000 MARKS. 
          SO VERY, VERY GOOD IMPROVEMENT FOR THE SILVER LINE. 
          LOOKING AT OUR QUARTER THREE COMPARISON, GOING BACK TO FY 22, WE CARRIED 11.4 MILLION RIDERS ON THE SYSTEM. 
          IN, UH, FY 24, WE PEAKED AT 14 MILLION. 
          IN 25, WE WENT DOWN TO THREE 13.8. 
          AND AGAIN, AN FY 26 WE'RE AT 13 POINT A HALF MILLION. 
          SO OUR SERVICE PERFORMANCE, SO PERFORMANCE FOR EACH DART BUS ROUTE, IS ASSESSED OVER THREE MEASURES. 
          THAT'S RIDERS PER REVENUE HOUR, PASSENGER MILES PER REVENUE MILE, AND SUBSIDY PER RIDER FOR PERFORMANCE. 
          FOR OUR GOING ZONES, THAT'S ASSESSED OVER TWO MEASURES. 
          THAT'S RIDERS PER REVENUE HOUR AND SUBSIDY PER RIDER. 
          LOOKING AT FY 26 QUARTER THREE, THIS IS FOR OUR BUS PERFORMANCE. 
          FOR OUR ROUTE TYPE. 
          OVERALL, WE CARRY JUST UNDER 12 RIDERS PER HOUR WITH FREQUENT RIDERSHIP LEADING THE WAY AT 16.98. 
          UH, PASSENGER MILES REVENUE MILE WAS 4.67 AND A SUBSIDY OF $13 AND A PENNY. 
          LOOKING AT OUR HIGHEST RIDERSHIP BUS ROUTES FOR FY 26 QUARTER THREE. 
          YOU ALSO SEE OUR GOING ZONES ON HERE AS WELL. 
          IT WAS LED BY ROUTE 57 AT OVER 3,200 RIDERS. 
          UH, ROUTE 22 ALSO HAD 3,200 RIDERS. 
          ROUTE 22 IS ALONG OUR FOREST LANE CORRIDOR. 
          ROUTE ONE AT 26 65, FOLLOWED BY ROUTE NINE AT 26 15 AND ROUTE 20 AT 25 84. 
          TOP FIVE GOALING ZONES. 
          AVERAGE WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP LED BY NORTH CENTRAL IRVING AT 829, FOLLOWED BY INLAND PORT ROULETTE, PASSPORT PARK, AND THEN A PLANO ZONE TO ZONE AT JUST UNDER 400. 
          LOOKING AT OUR HIGH RIDERSHIP FOR LOCAL AND LOCAL COVERAGE, THIS IS SERVICE THAT IS 30, 40 MINUTE HEADWAYS. 
          UH, ROUTE 2 41 GOING FROM FOREST LANE STATION IN DALLAS TO NORTHWEST PLANO PARK AND RIDE CARRIED OVER 1700 RIDERS FOR AVERAGE WEEKDAY, FOLLOWED BY ROUTE 1 0 1 AT 1737. 
          ROUTE TWO 30 FROM DALLAS TO IRVING AT 1644. 
          ROUTE 1 47. 
          THIS IS A ROUTE THAT WAS RECENTLY DOWNGRADED IN FEBRUARY, UH, AT 1640 AND ROUTE 1 0 4 ALONG OUR ILLINOIS CORRIDOR, UH, AT 1553. 
          ONE THING I'LL NOTE HERE WITH ROUTES 1 0 1, 1 47 AND ROUTE 57, THESE ARE ROUTES THAT ARE NORTH SOUTH ROUTES THAT ARE PRIMARILY ON CORRIDOR ROADS WITH WESTMORELAND, HAMPTON, AND POLK, PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, JUST WITH THOSE THREE ROUTES ALONE FOR QUARTER THREE, CARRIED OVER 6,500 RIDERS AVERAGE WEEKDAY. 
          SO VERY STRONG RIDERSHIP THERE. 
          ALONG THOSE THREE ROUTES, 
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SO IS OUR PERFORMANCE MEETING OUR TARGETS. 
          SO EACH ROUTER SERVICE IS COMPARED TO PERFORMANCE FOR OTHER ROUTES OF THE SAME TYPE. 
          IF PERFORMANCE IS LESS THAN 75% OF THE AVERAGE FOR A ROUTER SERVICE TYPE, OR 133% ABOVE FOR SUBSIDY PROVIDER, THAT'S SERVICE DEFICIENT FOR THAT MEASURE. 
          IF ALL APPLICABLE MEASURES ARE DEFICIENT, THE ROUTE FAILS TO MEET PERFORMANCE TARGETS. 
          FOR QUARTER THREE, WE ONLY HAD TWO BUS ROUTES, FOUR GOLING ZONES, AND ONE SHUTTLE ROUTE THAT WAS DEFICIENT. 
          SO LOOKING AT THIS MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE OUR DEFICIENT PERFORMERS WERE. 
          WE HAD BUS ROUTES 2 44, WHICH IS A UTD ROUTE FROM ARAPAHOE CENTER STATION TO UTD STATION, ROUTE TWO 19, UH, SERVING THE TYLER VERNON CORRIDOR. 
          UH, FROM PARKLAND, YOU HAD GOLINK ZONES, UH, WHICH IS NORTH DALLAS, ACTUALLY IS A ZONE TO ZONE. 
          SO THAT COMPRISES PRESTON HOLLOW, NORTH DALLAS AND, UH, NORTH CENTRAL DALLAS. 
          UM, THE THREE ZONES COMBINED, NOT THE THREE ZONES INDIVIDUALLY. 
          UM, SOUTH IRVING WAS DEFICIENT ALONG WITH MOUNTAIN CREEK AND GLEN HEIGHTS. 
          AND THEN THE SHUTTLE ROUTE WAS, UH, GALLATIN PARK IN RICHON, UH, THAT ROUTE 4 0 8 UP THERE. 
          LOOKING AT OUR LIGHT RAIL PERFORMANCE BY LINE, UH, OVERALL, WE CARRIED OVER 80 RIDERS PER HOUR WITH THE RED LINE LEADING THE WAY AT 94.28, UH, FOLLOWED BY THE GREEN LINE AT 88. 
          IT'S BLUE LINE AT 72, AND THEN THE ORANGE LINE AT 68.4. 
          AND OVERALL, WE HAD A SUBSIDY, UH, PER RIDER OF $9 AND 17 CENTS. 
          PARKING LOT UTILIZATION WENT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM, UH, F FY 25 A QUARTER THREE TO FY 26, A QUARTER THREE FROM 13.8% DOWN TO 13.6%. 
          AND THAT IS MY BRIEFING QUESTIONS. 
          MAYOR STOVER. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR ON THE SOUTH IRVING, UH, GOAL LINK REDUCTION. 
          UH, HAVE YOU TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE NUMBERS THAT THE, THE CITY IS GETTING ON THE TWO RIDER SHIPS THAT THEY ARE, UH, SUBSIDIZING THE TWO ROUTES THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT BACK IN NOT FOR SOUTH IRVING? UM, WHERE WE'RE REALLY SEEING THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 2 25 IS NORTH CENTRAL PLANO, WHERE THAT IS, UM, THE NUMBER ONE IRVING ZONE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          NORTH CENTRAL IRVING. 
          NORTH CENTRAL IRV. 
          I SAY PLANO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          NORTH CENTRAL IRVING. 
          NORTH CENTRAL IRVING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO YOU SEEN IT IN THE NORTH CENTRAL? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. BASS? THANK YOU. 
          COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST COUPLE OF THOSE SPREADSHEETS? I'M NOT MAKING ANYONE SICK BEHIND ME THERE. 
          WHICH ONE, SIR? LEMME KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WANT ME TO GO TO. 
          UM, EITHER ONE'S FINE. 
          SO I, I JUST HAVE A REQUEST THAT, UM, ACTUALLY GO TO THE, THE ONE BEFORE THAT. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. 
          I THINK THE SPREADSHEET IS A SPREADSHEET. 
          OH, THE SPREADSHEET? YEAH. 
          SO THIS ONE HERE? NO, THIS SPREADSHEET. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER SPREADSHEET RIGHT THERE. 
          THAT ONE THERE. 
          THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT, UM, IN THE FUTURE, IF THESE WERE, UH, SORTED BY PRIORITY COLUMN AS OPPOSED TO ALPHABETICAL TO MAKE IT EASIER TO, TO, UH, READ THE DATA COMPARING THE CITIES. 
          OKAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OH, SORRY. 
          MR. MACHI. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, RALPH. 
          GREAT PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS. 
          COUPLE THINGS. 
          UH, THIS IS, UM, SLIDE 14. 
          UM, YOU'RE DOING THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, WHICH IS FINE. 
          BUT THE, WHEN YOU SAY Q3 BUS PERFORMANCE, YOU'RE SIMPLY SAYING IT'S NOT RAIL. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ON THE MICRO TRANSIT, WE'RE AT 1551 PER RIDER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO THAT'S A SLIDE UPTICK FROM LAST QUARTER. 
          WHAT WOULD YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO? UM, SOME OF THAT IS, UM, JUST RIDERSHIP ON COSTS, YOU KNOW, MORE RIDERS INCREASES THE COST FOR MICRO TRANSIT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ON SLIDE 20, THE PARKING LOT UTILIZATION, DO YOU HAVE THIS BROKEN DOWN FOR THE SILVER LINE STATIONS? THAT DOES INCLUDE THE SILVER LINE STATIONS. 
          DO YOU HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY THOSE LOTS THOUGH? UH, YES, I DO. 
          IN MY BEHIND THE SCENES SPREADSHEET, YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          COULD YOU SEND THAT OUT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD POLICE? YES, SIR. 
          I'LL DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? CAN I MAKE ONE CAVEAT TO THE SILVER LINE? UM, SO JUST, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THOSE PARKING LOTS, UM, SO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON WOULD BE ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THEN 12TH STREET WOULD BE ANOTHER SINCE THEY'RE KIND OF COMBINED. 
          YEP. 
          THEY WOULD BE IN THERE. 
          SO JUST WANNA MAKE THAT, JUST MAKE, I THINK YOU JUST NOTE THAT AND YOU'LL BE ALL RIGHT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT ALONE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          SIR, WE'LL MOVE 
          [20. *Briefing on Fiscal Year 2026 Third Quarter Police Operations Update   (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Charles Cato) ]
ON NOW TO A BRIEFING ON FISCAL YEAR 2026. 
          THIRD QUARTER POLICE OPERATIONS UPDATE. 
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GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          CHARLIE CATO, CHIEF POLICE GOING TO GIVE A THIRD QUARTER BRIEFING. 
          IT'S GONNA COVER OUR SECURITY MEASURES, UPDATE OUR DEPARTMENT STATISTICS, AND OUR HIRING AND RECRUITING. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN HAD A FULL COMPLIMENT OF T SECURITY OFFICERS FOR A WHILE NOW. 
          WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM AND OUR FIELD OPERATIONS INITIATIVES. 
          ONE NOTE ON THE FIELD OPERATIONS INITIATIVES IS, I SAID WE'VE BEEN, UH, SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES WERE, UH, WERE ON, UM, I WOULD SAY ON HOLD. 
          UH, BUT DURING FIFA, 'CAUSE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS WERE DURING, WERE DURING FIFA. 
          THIS, THIS REPORT'S GONNA COVER FIRST ONE APRIL, UH, ALL THE WAY TO JUNE 30TH. 
          SO THE, THE FIRST PART OF THIS WILL HAVE THE, UH, HALF THE OPERATIONAL PERIOD OF FIFA, AND THE OTHER HALF WILL BE IN THE NEXT QUARTERLY REPORT. 
          BUT SOME OF OUR FULL OPERATIONS INITIATIVE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE, UH, ALL OUT DEPLOYMENT WE HAD FOR, FOR FIFA FOR DEPARTMENT STATISTICS, WE HAVE A, THIS IS OUR FIRST KPI AS GROUP A OFFENSES PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND RIDERS. 
          AND WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE THE, UM, WE AVERAGED 5.13 OFFENSES PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND RIDERS THIS QUARTER COMPARED TO, UH, 4.65 THE LAST QUARTER. 
          AND BECAUSE WE HAD, UM, A LOT MORE PEOPLE RIDING, AND WE HAD, UM, UH, ESPECIALLY IN, IN MAY, WE SAW AN UPTICK IN, IN RIDERSHIP THERE. 
          AND SO, UH, WE, WE HAD A, A SLIGHT UPTICK IN OFFENSES. 
          WE'LL GET OUTTA THOSE OFFICE PARTICULAR OFFENSES HERE LATER ON IN THE REPORT. 
          SO, A BREAKDOWN OF OUR OFFENSES. 
          SO THE LEADING CATEGORY IS DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, UH, AND DRUG ARREST. 
          AGAIN, UH, THIS, THIS, THIS CATEGORY WAS ADDED IN 2024 TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORS REPORT, THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM FROM THE FBI. 
          AND SO WE COMPLY WITH . 
          SO WE REPORT THOSE. 
          IF WE ARREST SOMEBODY WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS, I MENTIONED EARLIER, NOT A USABLE QUANTITY, BUT IT'S IDENTIFIABLE QUANTITY. 
          WE WRITE 'EM A CITATION, WE SEIZE THE NARCOTICS, AND WE HAVE IT DESTROYED. 
          THAT COULD BE FROM A PIPE, IT COULD BE FROM A SMALL CIGARETTE OR CIGAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, BUT THAT'S CONSIDERED AN ARREST, AND IT'S CONSIDERED AN OFFENSE THAT COUNTS IN OUR, IN OUR CRIME NUMBERS. 
          AND THEN SAME FOR DRUG ARREST. 
          THERE, ASSAULTS AND LARCENY ROUNDS OUT THE TOP FOUR. 
          UH, AGAIN, THE, UM, WE TRACK LOCATIONS. 
          AND SO HERE WE HAVE 19% AND 42% OF OFFENSES OCCUR ON A TRAIN, TRAIN PLATFORM FOR A TOTAL OF 61%. 
          SO, AGAIN, SO THOSE TWO, THAT'S WHY WE CONCENTRATE OUR EFFORTS ON, UH, THE RAIL SYSTEM. 
          AND, UM, BECAUSE THEY ACCOUNT FOR, FOR MOST OF THE OFFENSES, BUSES, AND BUS STOPS ACCOUNT FOR 15%. 
          AND SO WE HAVE, UH, 66 LIGHT RAIL STATIONS, 10 SILVER LINE STATIONS, AND FIVE TRE STATIONS. 
          UH, COMPARE THAT TO, WE HAVE 6,800 BUS STOPS ACROSS OUR SYSTEM. 
          AND BUS STOPS COUNT FOR 10% OF ALL REPORTED OFFENSES AND FACILITY ROUNDS. 
          OUT THE TOP THERE. 
          HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF OUR OFFENSES FOR THE QUARTER. 
          AGAIN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE GOING BACK TO 2023, THE TREND, UH, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO WHERE IT SAYS DRUG NARCOTIC OFFENSES, BACK IN 2023, WE ONLY HAD 50 MIDWAY IN THE SUMMER OF 2024, THEY ADDED A CATEGORY OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. 
          YOU CAN SEE A SHARP INCREASE THERE. 
          198% INCREASE, AND THEN THEY INCREASED INTO 2025. 
          AND THEN, UH, A SLIGHT DECREASE THIS, THIS REPORTING PERIOD. 
          UM, THE OTHER NOTABLE, UH, REDUCTIONS WERE IN ROBBERIES. 
          WE HAD A 24%, EIGHT, EIGHT OFFENSES DECREASED THERE. 
          AND THEN WE HAD MOTOR VEHICLE THEFTS. 
          UH, WE, BACK IN 2023, WE STARTED, WE HAD 26 AND HAS GONE DOWN CONSECUTIVELY EVERY QUARTER. 
          UH, SAME TIME, SAME QUARTER, THIRD QUARTER OF EACH YEAR SINCE THEN. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT'S BECAUSE DURING 23, UH, THERE WAS, UM, UH, A VIRAL, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA POST ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO DISARM AND STEAL THE, THE ALARM SYSTEM OF A KIA AND, AND A HYUNDAI. 
          AND SO THEY WERE STEALING THOSE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          AND WE SAW THE IMPACTS OF THAT HERE ORIGINALLY. 
          SO I WON'T GO INTO THE SPECIFICS BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA TEACH SOMEBODY HOW TO STEAL THAT, UH, STEAL SOMEBODY'S CAR. 
          BUT THEY, YOU CAN SEE AS, AS THE MANUFACTURERS RESPONDED TO THAT, UH, UH, THAT FAULT, THAT DEFAULT THAT THEY FOUND, UH, THE NUMBER OF THEFTS WENT DOWN CORRESPONDING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE LOOK AT OUR GROUP A OFFENSES BY TOTAL OFFENSES. 
          AND SO WE'RE DOWN 11%. 
          AND THEN WE SEPARATE THE GROUP A OFFENSES, AGAIN FOR, FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS UNDER THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM S THAT WE USE, THAT ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE IN THIS REGION USE DR. 
          UH, THE OFFENSES ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE CATEGORIES. 
          CRIME CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, WHICH IS ROBBERIES. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ASSAULTS, IT'S HOMICIDES, SEXUAL ASSAULTS. 
          THOSE ARE CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS WHERE THERE'S A PERSON VICTIM. 
          UH, THEY CONSIDER ROBBERY A, A PROPERTY CRIME 'CAUSE SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY'S TAKEN. 
          I STILL CONSIDER IT A, A, A VIOLENT OFFENSE. 
          BUT THEN THERE'S 
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CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE VANDALISM, THE DESTRUCTION, THE, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE PEOPLE, UH, THEFT. 
          WE LOSE A PROPERTY INTEREST. 
          AND THEN THE LAST IS CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY. 
          AND SO DRUGS FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. 
          CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, JUST LIKE GAMBLING. 
          SO IF WE GO BACK HERE, YOU CAN SEE GAMBLING, UH, THERE, THAT, THAT'S, UH, CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, UH, CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY. 
          AND ASSAULT IS DRUGS AND NARCOTICS. 
          UH, COUNTERFEIT, FORRY, DESTRUCTION, ALL THOSE BREAKING BURGING INJURY, UH, THOSE BRIBERY, THOSE ARE ALL CONSIDERED PROPERTY CRIMES THERE, JUST SO YOU HAVE. 
          SO WE TAKE OUT, UH, WE ALSO LIKE TO TAKE OUT WHEN THERE'S A, UH, THE DRUG OFFENSES CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, AND LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY WHERE A PERSON WAS INJURED. 
          THEY LOST OF PROPERTY ENTRIES, CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, CRIMES AGAINST PERSON. 
          WE'RE DOWN 16% THIS QUARTER COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME PERIOD LAST YEAR. 
          UH, EMPLOYEE ASSAULTS, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          THIS IS NOT, UH, THE QUARTER, THIS IS YEAR TO DATE. 
          THE CYD TDS CALENDAR, YEAR TO DATE, FROM JANUARY ONE TO JUNE 30TH. 
          SO SIX MONTHS INTO THE YEAR, THIS IS HOW MANY ASSAULTS WE HAD. 
          BUS OPERATORS, UH, HAVE MORE ASSAULTS. 
          OF ALL THE ASSAULTS. 
          UH, 29%, JUST, JUST, JUST OVER 29%. 
          ALMOST ONE THIRD ARE VERBAL THREATS ONLY. 
          AND SO THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL CONTACT. 
          THERE WAS NO, NOT TO DIMINISH HOW ANYBODY FEELS. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION THAT THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL ASSAULT. 
          BUT IN TEXAS, IF YOU THREATEN SOMEBODY WITH BODILY INJURY AND THEY WISH TO MAKE A REPORT, THEY MAY. 
          AND WE TAKE THAT AND IT COUNTS AS A CRIME. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT'S, SO THAT'S THE BIG THING. 
          ALMOST ONE THIRD OF ALL OF OUR ASSAULTS ARE JUST VERBAL, UM, VERBAL ASSAULT AND NO PHYSICAL ASSAULT WHATSOEVER. 
          THE SECOND KPI WE HAVE IS, UH, ARREST PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND RIDERS. 
          YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A SPIKE IN MAY TO CORRESPOND WITH THE NUMBER OF FOLKS WE HAD THERE. 
          UH, WE HAD 8.4, UH, 8.04 ARRESTS PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND RIDERS THAT MONTH. 
          UM, THERE WAS ALSO, WE DID SOME PRE-DEPLOYMENT AND WE DID SOME, UH, ACTIVITIES KNOWING WE WERE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ABILITY, THE FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR PERSONNEL DURING FIFA 'CAUSE WE WERE ALL GONNA BE COMMITTED TO, TO MANNING THE FIFA STATIONS. 
          AND SO WE DID SOME INITIATIVES IN MAY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THAT, THAT SPIKE IN ARREST, UH, NUMBERS THERE. 
          THE TYPES OF ARREST, CRIMINAL TRESPASS LEADS, UH, HANDS DOWN. 
          UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE BRIEFING BY MDRT, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS, UH, WE'VE ARRESTED MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          AND SO THEY HAVE A BARRING NOTICE OF CRIMINAL TRESPASS, UH, A WARNING AGAINST THEM. 
          AND SO WHEN WE SEE THEM ON THE SYSTEM, WE ARREST THEM. 
          WE DON'T WAIT FOR THEM TO COMMIT ANOTHER CRIME OR CAUSE ANOTHER DISRUPTION. 
          AND SO THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE ARREST CATEGORY. 
          THE CATEGORY, RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS THE DEFLECTION CENTER. 
          IT'S A PLACE THAT THE CITY, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS SET UP. 
          AND, AND, AND, UH, THE COUNTY WANTS TO, UH, EMULATE THAT AT THE, THE COUNTY WAS INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL. 
          IN FACT, THE COUNTY LED THE, THERE WAS A COUNTY WHO LED THAT. 
          THE CITY, UM, UH, HELPED, UH, UH, WITH THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING TO JAIL WHO'VE COMMITTED CRIMINAL TRESPASS. 
          THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN PARAMETERS. 
          AND IF THEY HAVE, UH, NO OTHER NONVIOLENT OFFENSES, WE CAN TAKE 'EM TO DEFLECTION CENTER IF THEY WANT TO GO. 
          AND THAT KEEPS 'EM OUT OF THE JAIL SYSTEM. 
          AND IT GIVES A CHANCE FOR THEM TO GET WRAPAROUND SERVICES WHILE THEY'RE THERE. 
          SO THE NEXT HIGHEST ARREST CATEGORY IS A, UH, OTHER AGENCY WARRANT. 
          SO EVERYBODY THAT WE CAN LEGALLY COME IN CONTACT WITH AND CHECK ON A COMPUTER, WE DO THAT. 
          WE CHECK IN TO SEE IF THEY HAVE WARRANTS, IF THEY HAVE A WARRANT, WE ARREST THEM, GETS 'EM OFF OF THE SYSTEM. 
          THE NEXT HIGHEST CATEGORY IS NUMBER THREE. 
          THERE IS, UH, PUBLIC INTOXICATION AND THEN EMERGENCY DETENTION. 
          SO THAT'S NUMBER FOUR. 
          IT USED TO BE NUMBER ONE. 
          NOW IT'S NUMBER FOUR. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          OUR THIRD AND FINAL KPI, UH, THAT WE REPORT TO THE AGENCY IS OUR RESPONSE TIME. 
          AND A PARTY, WHEN CALLS, IT'S THE INDUSTRY STANDARD TO BE EIGHT MINUTES, UH, FOR A RESPONSE TIME, EIGHT MINUTES OR LESS FOR A PRIORITY ONE CALL. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS QUARTER WE FINISH WITH 4.594 MINUTES, 59 SECONDS. 
          IT'S UNDER FIVE MINUTES. 
          THAT'S 54 SECOND DECREASE IN THE RESPONSE TIME. 
          TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          UM, SO ANYTIME WE MAKE CONTACT WITH SOMEONE, UH, WE TRACK THAT. 
          WE CONSIDER IF WE, IF WE GENERATE A, A CONTACT WITH 'EM AND WE CHECK 'EM ON THE COMPUTER, WE DO ANYTHING WITH 'EM, WRITE A CITATION, ANYTHING, WE LOG THAT AS A CALL. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAD 28,872, UH, CALLS, UH, FOR SERVICE THIS QUARTER. 
          AND THAT'S COMPARED TO 30 1090. 
          UH, AT THE SAME TIME PERIOD, UH, LAST YEAR IN 2025 REMOVALS, WE TRACK REMOVALS. 
          THESE ARE FOLKS THAT DIDN'T GET ARRESTED AND THEY DIDN'T GET CITED. 
          IT WAS JUST REMOVED FROM THE SYSTEM FOR, UH, VARIOUS REASONS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE FOR NO FAIR INVALID FARE OR CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATIONS, WE TRACK IT BY TRAIN, BUS, AND, AND, UH, PLATFORM. 
          SO, BECAUSE 61%, AS YOU SAW, ARE REPORTED OFFENSES, CURRENTLY TRAINED OR TRAINED PLATFORM, MOST OF OUR REMOVALS OCCUR THERE AS WELL. 
          SO OUT OF THE 17, UH, THOUSAND 982, PEOPLE WERE REMOVED FROM APRIL TO JUNE ONLY, UH, ALL BUT 1,179, ALL BUT 1200 OF 'EM BASICALLY WERE REMOVED FROM 
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A TRAIN OR A TRAIN PLATFORM. 
          MDRT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A BIT EARLIER, BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS QUARTER. 
          APRIL TO JUNE, THERE WERE 481 CONTACTS. 
          THAT'S HOW THOSE CONTACTS WERE BROKEN OUT. 
          THE LEADING, UH, CATEGORY WAS SELF-INITIATED. 
          CONTACTS WHEN THEY'RE OUT PATROLLING OR THE, UH, DO THE FOOT PATROLS OR PATROLLING AREAS KNOWN, UH, FOR PROBLEMS. AND THEN THEY FIND THOSE FOLKS AND MAKE CONTACT WITH 'EM. 
          THEN THE NEXT HIGHEST IES DIRECT FROM DISPATCH OR FROM 9 1 1. 
          UH, THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN, UH, THE WARM HANDOFFS. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS CATEGORY THERE THAT, UH, THAT IN RESOLVED ON SCENE, THEY, THOSE TWO CATEGORIES LEAD THE RE, THE, UH, RES THE DECLINE SERVICES WAS 24%, 24.11%. 
          UH, THIS QUARTER, THESE ARE DIVERSIONS FROM JAIL, DIVERSIONS FROM THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND DIVERSIONS FROM, FROM EMERGENCY DETENTION FOR THE QUARTER. 
          SO EACH ONE OF THOSE DIVERSIONS, UH, HAS A TIME AND, AND A COST OF, OF FINANCIAL COST. 
          AND SO, UH, WE TRACK, WE TRACK THOSE DIVERSION TO SEE, SO WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH, UH, UH, WHAT IMPACT THEY'VE HAD KEEPING FOLKS OUT OF THE SYSTEM. 
          AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER, A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE, UH, MAYOR STOFER DID IN THE EARLIER PRESENTATION ABOUT THE CONTACTS. 
          THIS, THIS MONTH OR THIS QUARTER, 11% WERE CONTACTED MORE THAN ONCE. 
          SO THEY REPEAT, REPEAT CLIENTS OR REPEAT CONTACTS. 
          UM, AND OUT OF THAT TO 481 60 9% WE'RE, WE'RE LIVING IS IDENTIFIED AS UNSHELTERED OR UNHOUSED. 
          THAT'S OUR CONTACT TIMES. 
          UH, SO WE AVERAGE EIGHT CONTACTS PER DAY AND, UH, 49 MINUTES PER CONTACT. 
          HIRING AND RECRUITING, THESE ARE THE VACANCIES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          ONE SERGEANT, ONE LIEUTENANT, AND 11 OFFICERS. 
          UM, SO THIS REPORT WAS PREPARED. 
          AND SO IN SEVEN 20, WE HIRED SOME ON AUGUST EIGHT, WE HAD SOME. 
          SO WE'RE DOWN TO, UH, EIGHT, UH, POLICE OFFICER VACANCIES RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN, UH, ONE TELECOMMUNICATOR. 
          AND, UM, OUR FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, FEO IS THERE. 
          OUR TURNOVER RATE, UH, FOR THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, UM, SO FAR FOR POLICE OFFICERS HAS BEEN 8.4%. 
          THAT'S ABOUT ABOUT AVERAGE FOR LAST YEAR. 
          IT WAS 8.2%. 
          LAST YEAR IT WAS 9.1% IN, UH, 2024 FOR, UH, A TOTAL TURNOVER ABOUT 10.6, WHICH IS PRETTY CONSISTENT. 
          UH, OVER TIME THERE I DO AN EXIT INTERVIEW WITH EACH, UH, OF THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO LEAVE. 
          AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE HERE. 
          AND THIS IS WHY THEY LEFT. 
          UH, SOME RESIGNED TO GO TO OTHER FOUR, RESIGNED TO GO TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS. 
          ONE RESIGNED TO LEFT LAW ENFORCEMENT ALTOGETHER, ONE RESIGNED 'CAUSE THEY RELOCATED, UH, ONE RESIGNED IN LIEU OF TERMINATION AND THERE WERE EIGHT TERMINATIONS. 
          AND THEN, UH, THREE WHO RETIRED. 
          SO THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN FOR 2026 SO FAR. 
          AND, AND WHEN I DO ASK 'EM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASK 'EM IS, THOSE ARE LEAVING TO GO TO THE PLACES IS WHY. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO THEY HAVE A MYRIAD OF REASONS. 
          SOME WANTED TO FIND BENEFIT PENSION PLAN. 
          UH, THOSE WHO THINK THAT FAR AHEAD. 
          UM, OTHERS, UH, WANT TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE SPECIALIZED UNITS. 
          THEY HAVE SWAT TEAMS, THEY HAVE, UH, MOUNTED UNITS. 
          THEY GO TO THE BIGGER CITIES AND THEY HAVE HORSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          'CAUSE THEY WANT DO THOSE THINGS. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THOSE THINGS. 
          SO, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE, WE'VE ADDED A NUMBER OF, UH, SPECIALTY, UH, ASSIGNMENTS. 
          AND, UH, THROUGH THE FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE CREATED A DRONE TEAM. 
          IT'S BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL TO US FOR, DURING FIFA AND BESIDES THAT, FOR MANAGING CROWDS, FOR, UM, UH, FOR DOING INSPECTIONS, AFTER STORM DAMAGE, DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS, AFTER STORMS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE A MYRIAD OF USES FOR THEM BESIDES JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, MOTORCYCLES. 
          WE HAVE A CANINE. 
          AND OUR CANINES ARE NOT DRUG DOGS. 
          UH, OUR CANINES ARE EXPLOSIVE ORDINANCE DETECTION. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY LOOK FOR BOMBS AND BOMB MAKING MATERIALS. 
          AND SO, UH, WE ALSO HAVE DETECTIVES. 
          SO WE HAVE VARIOUS, UH, SPECIALIZED GROUPS, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A MOUNTED UNIT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A HELICOPTER UNIT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA FLY HELL OUT LIKE SOME OF THE BIGGER CITIES. 
          AND SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS IS WHAT FOLKS WANNA DO. 
          SO JUST SHARING THAT. 
          OUR HIRING STATUS, THIS IS, WE TRACK THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVED, HOW MANY REGISTERED FOR THE EXAM. 
          SO OUT OF THAT, WHOEVER REGISTERED, THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP AND ATTENDED THE EXAM, . 
          SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, OVER HALF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP, UH, LESS THAN HALF ACTUALLY SHOWED UP 57. 
          AND THEN OUT OF THAT 29 ACTUALLY PASSED THE ENTRANCE EXAM. 
          THAT'S THE WRITTEN EXAM. 
          UH, FOR THE, FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WE HAVE A WRITTEN EXAM. 
          THERE'S THREE PARTS THAT THEY HAVE TO PASS. 
          IT'S, IT'S MATH AND TWO TYPES OF WRITING. 
          ONE IS, UH, IS, UH, WELL, ONE IS READING COMPREHENSION AND ONE IS WRITING. 
          AND THEN, UH, AND THEN THE SECOND, IF THEY PASS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO A PHYSICAL AGILITY EXAM OR PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL AGILITY EXAM CONSISTS OF A 2000 
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METER ROW ON A CONCEPT TWO ROWER. 
          AND IT'S, UH, IT'S UH, UM, IT'S UH, BY AGE, WEIGHT, AND GENDER. 
          THERE'S TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET BASED ON THOSE THREE FACTORS, AGE, WEIGHT, AND GENDER. 
          AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE STATE POLICE USE. 
          AND THE TEXAS HIGHWAY, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE TEXAS HIGHWAY PATROL, THEY'VE BEEN USING IT FOR OVER 15 YEARS. 
          I LOOKED AT THE DATA, THE RESEARCH BEHIND THAT, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS A, IT WAS A EASIER EXAM TO ADMINISTER. 
          AND IT, YOU, WE DO IT INSIDE. 
          AND SO THE HEAT, THE RAIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE. 
          SO WE CAN, UH, WE CAN ADMINISTER THE EXAM AND EVERYBODY HAS A, IS AN EQUAL CHANCE, UH, TO PASS THAT. 
          SO OUTTA THAT 29, WHO ACTUALLY PASSED THE EXAMS, SO FAR WE'VE HIRED, WE HIRED SIX OUT OF THAT FOR THIS, FOR THIS QUARTER. 
          THIS IS, UH, 17 SOFA OREGON BEEN HIRED FOR 2026 COMPARED TO 35 WE HIRED. 
          AND 2025 WAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER WE'VE HIRED. 
          AND, AND PROBABLY EVER, UH, I KNOW AT LEAST IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE ONE YEAR THEY HIRED 36, I BELIEVE. 
          BUT, BUT THAT'S IT. 
          BUT THAT'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, THIS IS A BRIEF AND ITEM ONLY MEMBERS QUESTIONS. 
          MR. E THREE MINUTES. 
          YOUR STATISTICS ON A PER 100,000 BASIS. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE GROUP A OFFENSES YOU'VE LISTED OUT THERE. 
          I THINK TO ME THAT CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS PLUS LARCENY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD SCARE ME THE MOST. 
          IF I'M A PERSON OUT THERE THINKING ABOUT RIDING THE TRAIN, THAT'S WHAT GETS ABOVE THE FOLD. 
          PRINT. 
          OUR NUMBERS ARE LOOK LIKE PURELY, FAIRLY LOW, LIKE 0.004, 0.04%. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT RANKS WITH THE CITIES THROUGH WHICH OUR TRAINS RUN. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE COMPARISON FIGURES FOR GROUP A OFFENSES CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS PLUS LARCENY FOR THE CITIES THROUGH WHICH WE OPERATE? UH, I DO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE LIKE WE PUBLISHED THIS REPORT AFTER REPRESENTED TO YOU TO BE PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          UH, MOST OF THE CITIES PUBLISH THEIR DATA AS WELL. 
          AND I LOOK AT IT TO SEE HOW WE COMPARE, ESPECIALLY THE CITIES THAT WE SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME IN. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, DALLAS, I LOOK AT HOW WE COMPARE TO DALLAS ACROSS THE 46 OF OUR 6 45 OF OUR 66 LIGHT RAIL STATIONS IN THE CITY. 
          SO WE, WE COMPARE FAVORABLY, UH, OR LOWER, UH, THE, IN MOST CATEGORIES THAN, THAN THAN THE, THE CITIES ARE, ESPECIALLY THE LARGER CITIES. 
          OKAY, SO, SO IT, WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW 'CAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE 'EM, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE. 
          AGAIN, THE GROUP A OFFENSE IS THE MARIJUANA SMOKING THE GRAFFITI THAT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S OF INTEREST TO ME 'CAUSE I'M A BOARD MEMBER, BUT THE CRIME IS CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS AND LARCENY WHERE I TAKE YOUR WATCH AWAY FROM ME, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO, TO I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, UH, AS COMPARE AGAINST THE 12 CITIES THROUGH WHICH WE RUN, BECAUSE WE HAVE IT. 
          UH, WE'VE HEARD ANECDOTALLY FROM FOLKS IN OUR CITIES THAT WE ARE UNSAFE AND I'M WONDERING IF WE ARE IN ANY, ANY MORE UNSAFE THAN THEY ARE WHEN THEY GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, UH, IN THEIR OWN CITIES. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          OKAY? YES, SIR, SIR. 
          AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, FOR THE T AND DCTA WHO ARE LOCAL COMPETITORS, THEY DON'T REPORT JUST ON THAT POINT, SINCE THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY, THEIR, THEIR DATA IS, UH, SEGMENTED BY THE CITIES THAT THEY CONTRACT WITH, LIKE FORT WORTH. 
          SO THEY DON'T PUBLISH, THEY DON'T SEGREGATE DATA FOR JUST TRINITY, TRINITY METRO. 
          THEY JUST REPORT FORT WORTH POLICE DATA. 
          SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO EVEN ESTIMATION FOR WHAT THE, THE, THE, UH, CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED ON THE TRAINS OR ON THE PLATFORMS. FOR EXAMPLE, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S NTD DATA THAT'S REQUIRED TO, FOR FEDERAL REGULATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UH, THAT'S NOT GONNA TRANSLATE EXACTLY TO THE CRIME ON THE SYSTEM, ON NOT ALL THE NT DATA IS DIRECT CORRELATION TO LIKE LARCENY AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE FILING OFFENSES, LIKE SEXUAL ASSAULT ASSAULTS ON OPERATORS HOMICIDES. 
          YES, THAT DATA WILL BE THERE, BUT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY DATA ABOUT THE, THE LARCENY OF THE SMALLER CATEGORY. 
          I MEAN, LESSER CATEGORIES OF CRIME. 
          UNDERST. 
          SO, SO JUST TO PUT A FINE POINT ON THIS, I WANT TO MAKE, I WANT TO KNOW AT LEAST I'M SURE WHAT THE BOARD DOES TOO, HOW WE DO COMPARED TO THE CITIES THROUGH WHICH WE OPERATE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND IF, AND IF WE'RE SINGLED OUT BY PEOPLE IN THOSE CITIES ABOUT HOW UNSAFE THEY FEEL, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, MAYBE WE DESIGN AN AD CAMPAIGN, DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH THE INFORMATION. 
          I JUST WANT, WANNA KNOW WHAT IT'S JU TO YOUR POINT, IN 2024, I DID A, I DID A 10 YEAR LOOK BACK IN HOW WE COMPARE IT IN THE CITY'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION IN OUR SERVICE AREA. 
          UH, WE HAD THE LOWEST NUMBER OF HOMICIDES OF ANY OF THOSE CITIES. 
          UH, UH, WE HAD 1.6 OVER THOSE 10 YEARS. 
          AND SOME OF THE CITIES HAD, WELL, ONE OF THE CITIES HAD 95, AVERAGE, 95 HOMICIDES. 
          UH, AND SO IT, IT WAS A, WE WERE, UH, I COMPARED US TO PLANO, TO RICHARDSON, TO IRVING, TO GARLAND, TO CARROLLTON THE CITIES. 
          AND SO WE WERE, WE WERE THE LOWEST OF ALL THOSE CITIES. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S GOOD. 
          I, BUT IF WE HAVE A LITTLE 
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BROADER CATEGORY, THEN I THINK THE CHAIR'S INTERESTED AND THE REST OF THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A REAL EMPHASIS ON, ON SAFETY AND SECURITY. 
          AND THAT'LL GIVE US A BASE POINT FROM WHICH TO, TO MEASURE IF WE'RE 3.75 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE CITY THROUGH WHICH WE GO AVERAGE 3.75 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, WE CAN TRACK THAT RELATIVE TO WHAT THE STREETS ARE. 
          BECAUSE THE A THE, USUALLY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE FACT YOU'RE NOT IN A TAXI CAB ON A TRAIN, YOU'RE WALKING THE CITY STREETS ON A TRAIN. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE EXPOSURE TO EVERYBODY WHO'S IN THAT CITY ON THAT TRAIN. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MR. GRADING? THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, THANK YOU CHIEF FOR THE, UH, THE DATA AND, UM, DOESN'T, THE HIRING DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. 
          I'VE SEEN THAT IN, IN THE CITIES AS WELL. 
          TO GET SIX OFFICERS ON THE FORCE, YOU NEED TO HAVE ABOUT 400 APPLICANTS AND, AND YOU WEED THEM DOWN. 
          UM, THE CURIOSITY I HAVE, AND IT, IT REALLY IS COMING OFF OF, UM, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER ENOCH WAS ALSO SAYING, UM, OF ALL OF THE STATISTICS THAT YOU WERE SHOWING, OF ALL THE CRIMES THAT WERE COMMITTED, UM, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE FELONIES AND HOW MANY OF 'EM ARE MISDEMEANORS? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. 
          I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE THEY, THEY KINDA LOOK, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 'EM LOOK LIKE FELONIES, UM, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, BUT I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          SO I, I'D JUST BE CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY ARE FELONIES AND HOW MANY ARE MISDEMEANORS? YES, SIR. 
          I'LL, I'LL WORK ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? MS. MILLIGAN? THREE MINUTES. 
          CHIEF, JUST QUICK QUESTION. 
          PER A PUBLIC INTOX, UH, ARRESTS, ARE WE TAKING THEM TO JAIL OR ARE WE TAKING ANYBODY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS SOBERING CENTER? WE TAKE MOST OF THEM TO THE CITY OF DALLAS DETENTION CENTER. 
          UH, AND, AND WHENEVER THEY ACCEPT THEM. 
          SO, BUT IS THAT, UM, WHAT'S BEING POTENTIALLY CUT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET? I HAD READ THAT DALLAS WAS CLOSING AT SOBERING CENTER Y YES. 
          THAT WILL, THAT WILL IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS THAT POPULATION BECAUSE WE CANNOT TAKE, WELL, WE DON'T TAKE CLASS CS TO THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL, UM, BECAUSE IT'S RESERV FOR CLASS BS AND ABOVE, AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE JAIL OVERCROWDING SITUATION, THE JAIL POPULATION, UH, UH, THE, THE, THEY DON'T TAKE CLASS CS FROM, FROM US. 
          SO, SO THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE ENCOUNTER SOMEONE WHO'S PUBLICLY INTOXICATED? IT WOULD BE A TICKET THEN. 
          WELL, WE WOULD BE ISSUED A CITATION AND TRY SOMEBODY, TRY TO FIND SOMEONE TO RELEASE THEM TO WHO TAKE CUSTODY OF THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          YES, SIR. 
          PROBABLY WON'T GO FAR. 
          A ZINC CHIEF. 
          CHIEF GARZA'S GONNA DO THIS NEXT PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT ITEM 
          [21. *Briefing on Potential Light Rail System Security Initiatives – Part 1   (Presenters: Patrick J. Kennedy/Charles Cato) ]
IS BRIEFING ON POTENTIAL LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM SECURITY INITIATIVES. 
          PART ONE, I THINK THE CEO HAS A COMMENT FIRST. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, WE WERE TASKED, UH, A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS SUMMER TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO LIGHT RAILS, UH, SECURITY AND, UH, AND OVERALL PROGRAM AND APPROACH THAT WOULD, UH, ADDRESS A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE HOURS. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE SEVERAL THINGS ARE, ARE BEING DISCUSSED. 
          UH, AND FIRST OF ALL, WITH RESPECT TO OVERALL OBJECTIVES, ONE REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE KIND OF A SIMPLE CONCEPT OF REESTABLISHING A CULTURE OF COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, WE, OVER, OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS, WE REALLY LOST, UH, BECAUSE OF COVID IN PARTICULAR, UH, AN INTEREST IN INCLINATION IN IN PAYING FARES AND, AND, UH, PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CODE OF CONDUCT. 
          UH, THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVING, BUT IT'S STILL VERY MUCH THERE. 
          AND THIS IS A, THIS INITIATIVE IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT ALSO INTENDED TO IDENTIFY THOSE STRUCTURAL AND PHYSICAL THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO HELP, UH, THAT ACHIEVE THAT OVER TIME. 
          SO, UH, THE ONE OF THE INITIATIVES HAS TO DO WITH FAIR ATION REDUCTION COMPLIANCE WITH CODE OF CONTACT, AND THEN, UH, PRIORITIZE THE ENTRY POINT STATIONS WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENTS AND NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          AND THE CHIEF, UH, WE'LL TALK TO THAT IN A MINUTE. 
          THE OTHER IS TO ADDRESS THIS OTHER DISCUSSION, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE IMPACT AND CHALLENGES, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, ACCESS CONTROL PLATFORMS. AND THE WHOLE QUESTION OF HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THE IDEA OF ENCLOSING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, THE ENTIRE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM, UH, END TO END. 
          UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, IF YOU GO TO THE 
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NEXT SLIDE? SO, UH, WE'RE GIVING YOU TWO BRIEFINGS. 
          UH, THIS ONE TODAY IS TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, WHICH CHIEF GARZA IS GONNA SPEAK TO, UH, WHICH IS, UH, A VERY INTENSE INITIATIVE. 
          IT WILL BE A 90 DAY, UH, INITIATIVE. 
          IT WILL OCCUR AFTER COMPLETION OF FAIR PARK STATE FAIR ACTIONS. 
          AND YOU'LL SPEAK TO IT IN A MINUTE, AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S, IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE, VERY INTENSE. 
          PART TWO WILL BE IN EARLY OCTOBER. 
          AND THAT WILL ADDRESS THE EVALUATION OF GATING, THE ENTIRE PLATFORM. 
          UH, THE DISCUSSION OF UNIFORM, UH, STAFFING REQUIREMENTS ON AT LEAST THE FIRST CAR OF EVERY TRAIN OR THE MIDDLE CAR, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THE FIRST CAR. 
          UH, BUT A UNIFORM, UH, COMMITMENT TO THAT, THAT COULD MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          IT COULD MEAN STATIONING A UNIFORMED OFFICER AS OPPOSED TO HIM PASSING THROUGH HE OR SHE, UH, MODIFICATION OF FAIR POLICY AND CONSIDERATION PREMIUM FAIRES. 
          UH, THERE IS CORRELATION BETWEEN BEHAVIOR AND PRICE. 
          UH, SO THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE MODIFICATION OF CODE OF CONDUCT, UH, POLICIES, UH, REALLY COMING OUT OF THE WORK THAT, UH, THE POLICE WILL BE DOING. 
          SO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, NOW WE TRANSITION INTO THE POLICE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          CHIEF GARZA, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, I'M GIL GARZA. 
          I'M THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OVER FIELD OPERATIONS. 
          UH, SO, UH, FOR THIS, FOR THIS, UM, PARTICULAR INITIATIVE, UM, WE'RE CALLING THIS OPERAT. 
          IT'S MORE OF AN OPERATION BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, NEEDED FOR THIS 90 DAY DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          IT'S CALLED OPERATION ACCESS. 
          SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A BACKGROUND A LITTLE BIT, THE IDEA FOR OPERATION ACCESS WAS, UH, BORN FROM OUR WORK DURING FIFA WHEN WE WERE USING THE BARRIERS AND, AND PERSONNEL EFFECTIVELY CONTROLLING ACCESS ONTO THE TRAINS AND THE CBD VICTORY STATION AND FAIR PARK MLK STATIONS. 
          DURING THAT TIME, WE HAD NO MAJOR INCIDENTS AND CRIME FELL. 
          YOU WERE TRADITIONALLY IN THE SUMMER IT GOES UP AND IT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN, IT SPIKED DOWNWARD, WHICH WAS AWESOME, RIGHT? SO WE WERE THINKING, WELL, HOW CAN WE REPLICATE THAT? HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT MAGIC HAPPEN AGAIN? BECAUSE THAT IS UNSEEN IN ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, HAVING, HAVING WORKED IN ANOTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST, UH, YOU ALWAYS SEE CRIME SPIKE IN THE SUMMER. 
          EVERYWHERE YOU GO, KIDS ARE OUT, YOU KNOW, AND DOING THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT AND OUT, OUT AND ABOUT DOING THEIR THING. 
          SO, UH, OUR STRATEGIC APPROACH HERE, UH, UH, LOOKING AT THE APPROACH, WE WILL REVIEW THE PLAN, THE CONTROL ACCESS AND HOW THAT WILL WORK. 
          REVIEW LOCATION DIAGRAM, AND CONDUCT AN EVALUATION OF OUR OUTCOMES AT, AT THE END OF THIS, THIS PROJECT, AND EVEN DURING AS WELL. 
          SO OVERALL, THE PLAN IS TO CONTROL ACCESS TO TRAINS BEGINNING IN CB, D AND OTHER HIGH INCIDENT LOCATIONS, ENFORCEMENT TEAMS AND BARRIERS WILL MANAGE PASSENGER FLOW, UH, AND TRAIN ACCESS. 
          UH, WE'LL BE CONDUCTING FAIR INSPECTIONS AND CODE CONDUCT ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND DURING THIS 90 DAY PERIOD, WE'LL CONDUCT THIS DURING OUR PEAK HOURS. 
          A, UH, AM BEING 5:00 AM TO 9:00 PM UH, 9:00 AM AND IN THE PM 3:00 PM TO 7:00 PM WE CAN ADJUST AS WE NEEDED AS WE GO ALONG, JUST AS WE EVALUATE, UH, WHAT'S WORKING AND WHERE WE NEED TO, WHERE WE MAKE TO, WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          SO THE, THE PROPOSED APPROACH, OUR GOAL IS, UH, MULTIPLE ENFORCEMENT CONTACTS ON EVERY TRAIN DURING PEAK PERIODS. 
          UH, THIS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY CONTROLLING ACCESS TO THE TRAINS, USING A COMBINATION OF PERSONNEL AND BARRIERS, AS WE DID IN FIFA AND THE CBD AND, UH, AT NCBD AT THE WEST END STATION AND AT, AT PEARL STREET, UH, UH, ARTS DISTRICT STATION FIVE THREE PERSON TEAMS WILL BE STATIONED OUT OUTSIDE OF CBD AT CONTROL POINTS. 
          UH, THE SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE, UH, WILL EVALUATE THE PROCESSES, RESOURCES, AND TECHNOLOGY TO REDUCE, UH, LONG-TERM STAFFING NEEDS. 
          SO JUST, UH, I NEED TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON, ON CONTROL POINTS. 
          UH, POLICE PERSONNEL WILL, THE, THE PERSONNEL THAT ARE THERE AT THE CONTROL POINTS WILL CONSIST OF A POLICE OFFICER, FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, TRANSIT SECURITY, AND THIS MAKEUP CAN CHANGE AS THEY BEGIN HAVING TO ADDRESS, UH, INFRACTIONS. 
          WE WILL HAVE A PATROL UNIT ASSIGNED TO EACH, UH, CONTROL POINT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. 
          CONTROL POINTS WERE SELECTED BASED ON INCIDENT DATA WITH PRIORITY GIVEN TO LOCATIONS CONSISTENTLY IDENTIFIED AS HIGH INCIDENT AREAS. 
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GEOGRAPHIC ACCESSIBILITY WAS ALSO CONSIDERED ENSURING COVERAGE OF EVERY RAIL LINE, ENTERING AND EXITING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. 
          SO PERSONNEL ASSIGNED TO CONTROL POINTS WILL, UH, BOARD TRAINS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CLEARED, BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ANYBODY IN THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDRESSING AN ISSUE AND ENGAGE. 
          AND THEY WILL ALSO, WHILE THEY'RE THERE AT THE CONTROL POINTS, THEY WILL ENGAGE THE PEOPLE AT THOSE PLATFORMS CHECKING FOR FAIR AND OTHER VIOLATIONS THAT MAY BE OCCURRING. 
          CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE STATIONS, THESE, UH, THESE STATIONS THAT WERE SELECTED, UH, THIS IS BACHMAN STATION. 
          IT ALSO COVERS THE GREEN AND ORANGE LINES GOING NORTH. 
          MLK STATION, THE GREEN LINE GOING SOUTH FOREST STATION, RED AND ORANGE, NORTH EIGHTH AND CORINTH, RED AND BLUE, SOUTH RED AND BLUE LINE SOUTH, AND WHITE ROCK, BLUE LINE NORTH. 
          SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU A, AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ON A, UH, ON A VISUAL PRESENTATION HERE, A REPRESENTATION STARTING FROM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN THE BLUE CIRCLES YOU SEE THERE, WE'LL BE UTILIZING THE PERSONNEL AND BARRIER SYSTEMS AT BOTH ENDS AT THE WEST END PLATFORM AND AT PEARL. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WHICH WAY THEY MOVE. 
          UM, THE CONTROL POINTS ARE IN RED CIRCLES SHOWING, UH, ALL THE RAIL LINES COMING INTO AND OUTTA CBD THAT ARE IMPACTED AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THEIR BACHMAN FOREST LINE, WHITE ROCK, MLK, AND EIGHTH AND CORINTH, WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY SPLIT. 
          BUT EVERY SINGLE LINE COMING OUTTA SEA AND GOING INTO CBD IS COVERED BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GET TO CBD. 
          SO, ON THIS GRAPHIC, UM, JUST LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT IT IN A DIFFERENT REPRESENTATION, UH, WE SHOW THE CONTROL POINTS IN THE LIGHT BLUE THAT WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE YELLOW SQUARES SHOW, F EOS TSOS, AND POSSIBLY OFFICERS, DEPENDING ON THE AVAILABILITY, UM, MOVING BACK AND FORTH FROM THE CONTROL POINTS TO CBD GOING BACK AND FORTH. 
          THAT'S THEIR ASI THAT WILL BE THEIR ASSIGNMENT. 
          UM, WITH CBD BEING OUR FOCAL POINT, THE ACTUAL BARRIER SYSTEM WILL BE DEPLOYED AND EVALUATED THERE. 
          SO THEY'RE TALKING TO THE BARRIER SYSTEM WILL BE IN PLACED, UH, THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST, WILL BE PLACED IN WEST END AND WILL BE PLACED IN PRO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, JUST A NOTE IN THE RED. 
          UH, WE HAVE TO, UH, WE HAVE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FLUID AND ADJUSTABLE AS WE ADDRESS CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS, THIS ENTIRE, UH, OPERATION. 
          UH, ADDRESS ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. 
          SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET INVOLVED IN ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE TO JAIL AND, OR WRITE TICKETS OR, OR DEAL WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH A PLATFORM ISSUE OR PARKING ISSUE. 
          UM, AND, AND THE AVAILABILITY OF POLICE PERSONNEL AND RESOURCES. 
          YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CALL IN SICK, THEY TAKE VACATION, THEY'RE AT TRAINING. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY. 
          UH, ANOTHER NOTE ADDRESS, UH, TO, IN ADDRESSING THIS IS THE GEOGRAPHIC, THE GEOFENCING RESOURCES. 
          SO OUR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE 100% COVERAGE WITHIN THAT SPACE, WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THAT CIRCLE, BASICALLY, IF YOU TOOK ALL THOSE SPACES AROUND IN THIS, IN THIS ACTUAL REPRESENTATION AND, AND COVERING, WE, UH, WE LOOK TO GAIN A 100% COVERAGE DURING, UH, PEAK PERIODS, WHICH IS OUR FOCUS. 
          AND IN THIS GEOFENCE, WE HAVE AC AND WE HAVE AC IN, IN THIS GEOFENCE, WE HAVE AC UH, ACCESSIBILITY TO RESOURCES. 
          UH, IT ALSO KEEPS US TIGHTER, ALLOWING US TO, UH, TO HAVE MULTIPLE TOUCHES TO EVERY TRAIN. 
          SO KIND OF LIKE A FOOTBALL ANALOGY. 
          WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE LINE, THEN WE HAVE OUR LINEBACKERS, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NICKELBACKS RIGHT, JUST, UH, FLOATING TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE. 
          WE CONTROL THE LINE, WE CONTROL, WE CONTROL THE ACCESS. 
          UH, SO NOR, UH, SO JUST ON THE NOTES WE WERE LOOKING UP THERE IN BLUE NORTH PATROL WILL BE SAN WIND ELEMENT PER NORTHERN PLATFORM TO SUPPORT. 
          AND SOUTH WOULD BE DOING THE SAME ON THE SOUTHERN PLATFORMS IN THIS. 
          UH, SO NEXT STEPS, UH, WE'LL COORDINATE INTER INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW TO DESIGN THE COMBINATION AND PLACEMENT OF STAFFING AND OR BARRIERS AT DOWNTOWN STATION TO ENSURE PASSENGER FLOW AND A DA ACCESS, DEVELOP A PLAN TO MONITOR PERFORMANCE DATA, UH, INCLUDING ENDLINE ACTIVITY OUTSIDE OF DALLAS IN ORDER TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED. 
          OUR OFFICERS WILL STILL BE ADDRESSING, UH, OUTSIDE OF THIS, OF THIS BARRIER HERE, THIS GEOFENCE. 
          WE'LL STILL BE HAVING OFFICERS, UH, UH, ASSIGNED TO THOSE LOCATIONS AS WELL. 
          BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE, UH, IT TAKE, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME RESOURCES TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN EFFECTIVELY. 
          UH, WE'LL REVIEW THE FINAL PLAN WITH INCOMING PRESIDENT, CEO AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS. 
          DEVELOP STRATEGIC MESSAGING FOR WRITERS, STAKEHOLDERS, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC FINALIZED SCHEDULE TO LAUNCH PILOT POST, UH, STATE, UH, STATE FAIR OF TEXAS, AND DOCUMENTS, LESSONS LEARNED TO INFORM, UH, FUTURE SECURITY INITIATIVES AND LONGER TERM INVESTMENTS. 
          SO THAT IS, THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          IF I COULD, UH, JUST A COUPLE POINTS, UM, TO POINT OUT NUMBER 
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ONE ON THE MESSAGING STRATEGY FOR RIDERS. 
          UH, THIS IS A SIMULTANEOUS EVENT, MEANING THAT ALL THESE AREAS WILL BE COVERED SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          SO IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LET EVERYBODY KNOW,  THAT WHAT, WHAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          UM, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A POLICE ACTION GOING ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE SYSTEM. 
          SO IT'S, THAT WILL BE A BIG DISCUSSION THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING THROUGH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS WITH STAFF, UH, TO KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. 
          COMMUNICATE. 
          IT'S A POSITIVE THING. 
          THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY IS THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, UH, REVIEW OF EVERY PERSON BOARDING TO VERIFY THAT THEY HAVE A PASS BEFORE THEY BOARD, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN VERIFYING AS THEY'RE ONBOARD. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING BETWEEN PLATFORMS. UH, SO THERE'S A COUPLE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT THIS THAT ARE, UH, DIFFERENT AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE OUT OF THIS. 
          UH, WE SHOULD GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK. 
          UH, WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH OF A BEHAVIOR CHANGE WE GET JUST BY VIRTUE OF, OF DOING THIS. 
          UH, AND HE MENTIONED, UH, THE CHIEF MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE END OF THE LINE. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE VERY PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE END OF THE LINE ALSO THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BY EVERY CITY WHERE THEY HAVE END OF THE LINE FACILITIES TO SEE WHAT DIFFERENCE THIS MAKES, ARGUABLY WILL MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE. 
          UH, BUT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS PART ONE, PART TWO SPEAKS INTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, WHICH IS THE PHYSICAL GATING STRATEGY. 
          WHAT WE LEARN OUT OF THIS, THAT TRANSLATES INTO HOW YOU WOULD TRANSLATE THAT INTO A BARRIER SYSTEM THAT COULD BE INSTALLED AS SUBSEQUENTLY. 
          AND OF COURSE, UH, YOU, I HOPE YOU NOTED THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT ALSO TO THE REVIEW OF THE INCOMING, UH, PRESIDENT, CEO NAT FORD, SO THAT HE IS WELL ACQUAINTED WITH THIS AND HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM THE, THE FINAL IMPLEMENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. ENOCH, THREE MINUTES. 
          I LOVE, LOVE THE REPORT. 
          LOVE THE IDEA. 
          THE MIC MICROPHONE, SIR. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. 
          SO WALK ME THROUGH THIS. 
          IF I GET ON AT THE WEST END STATION ON A MORNING, THIS IS INVOLVED, THERE'LL BE YELLOW BARRIERS OR SOMETHING THAT'LL, THAT WILL KIND OF CORRAL ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO A PARTICULAR CAR OR TWO CARS TO GET ON, CHECKING MY ID. 
          NOT MY ID, BUT MY TICKET WHEN I GET ON, I GET ON THE TRAIN, I EXIT AT, UH, OH, CITY PLACE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANYBODY THERE CHECKING ANYBODY ANYTHING OR, SO NOT UNTIL WHITE ROCK. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO GOING TO YOUR FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE, WE, WE, THERE IS GONNA BE, THE BARRIERS ARE GONNA BE SET BACK, UH, WITHIN COMPLIANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE AN ENTRY AND AN EXIT, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIRTHING OF THE, THE TRAINS THEMSELVES, OKAY. 
          WHERE THEY COME IN INTO THAT BARRIER SYSTEM TO BLOCK AND, AND, UM, AND SO WHEN THEY COME IN, WE HAVE SOMEBODY CHECKING TO COME IN, AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE EXIT. 
          SO WHEN THEY COME OFF THE CONCEPTS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE FIVE DOORS ON EACH CONCEPT. 
          SO IT'S A LARGE AREA, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO YOU HAVE ONE POINT OF ENTRY, AND THEN TWO POINTS OF EXIT, RIGHT? AND THIS IS MANUAL, SINCE WE'RE USING BARRIERS MOSTLY LIKE LOOKING BIKE BARRIERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF BARRIERS. 
          BUT THE WHOLE POINT IS TO CONTROL THE ACCESS GOTCHA. 
          THE TRAIN. 
          SO KIND OF LIKE A, LIKE A GATE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN, RIGHT? I I'M, I'M WITH YOU. 
          I GET IT. 
          SO, SO NOW I'M AT CITY PLACE, SO WE GOT NOTHING WHEN I GET OFF, RIGHT? SO THEY, WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM BOTH AT THE ENDS OF THE, ENDS OF, UH, CBD, RIGHT? WEST, WEST END AND PEARL. 
          THEY'RE BOTH DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. THEY'RE GONNA TAKE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, BARRIER SYSTEMS. BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, F FOS, TSOS AND POSSIBLY POLICE OFFICERS DEPENDING ON, ON THE AVAILABILITY, UH, TO GO GET ON THOSE LINES AND, AND CONTINUE THE CHECKS. 
          AND AS THEY GO THROUGH THESE, THESE OTHER, LIKE CITY PLACE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK THEM JUST ONLINE. 
          I, AS THE, AS THE RIDER THOUGH, WHEN I GET TO DOWNTOWN WEST OR EAST, THEY'RE GONNA BE BEARS. 
          I'M GONNA SHOW MY TICKET. 
          I CAN WAIT FOR THE TRAIN TO COME IN ONCE I'VE SHOWN THE TICKET, GET ON THE TRAIN AND I CAN GET OFF AT CITY PLACE. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WITHOUT, THERE'S NOBODY BARRIERS. 
          THERE'S NOBODY ELSE. 
          NOBODY. 
          IF I STAY ONTO WHITE ROCK AND I GET OFF AT WHITE ROCK, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THE EXITS. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? NO, NO. 
          WHITE. 
          SO AT THE CONTROL POINTS, UHHUH, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANY BARRIERS THERE. 
          OKAY? AND WE HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THERE BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, BARRIERS, WE NEED A LOT OF THEM. 
          SO WHAT DO I SEE AT WHITE, WHITE ROCK? SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE, THE ENFORCEMENT TEAMS, OKAY? YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, FIVE, EVERY, THERE'S FIVE, FIVE LOCATIONS. 
          THE THREE, UH, THREE OFFICERS, OR THREE, THE COMBINATION OF OFFICERS, F, FOS, TSOS, ARE THEY ENFORCING FOLKS, GETTING ON WHITE ROCK, GOING DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, OR GOING NORTH? THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING. 
          OKAY? AT, AT, BUT WITHOUT THE BARRIERS. 
          OKAY? SO THEY'RE GAUGING, THEY'RE CONTROLLING THE ACCESS, BUT MANUALLY AT THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          NOW, IF THEY COME IN, THEY'LL LOOK TO ACHIEVE THE TRAIN. 
          IF THE TRAIN, THERE'S SOMEBODY'S ON THE TRAIN, UH, ONE OF OUR OFFICERS ARE ON TRAIN, F-E-O-T-O, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET OFF THE CONTROL POINT. 
          'CAUSE THEIR POINT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET BACK ON THE TRAIN, COMING BACK IN THE C, BD. 
          OKAY? MEANWHILE, 
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WE'RE STILL CHECKING TRAINS. 
          IF THERE'S NOBODY ON THE TRAIN BECAUSE THEY MISSED IT OR THEY GOT ENGAGED INTO SOMETHING ELSE, WELL, THEN YOU HAVE THOSE OFFICERS, UH, THE OFFICER CAN GO IN AND ENGAGE THAT, ENGAGE THAT TRAIN. 
          SO ON EVERY SET OF CARS, THERE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE OFFICER, FEO, ET CETERA, THAT'S DURING THAT, THIS ENFORCEMENT PERIOD. 
          THAT'S THE PLAN. 
          BUT, AND THAT PERSON WILL THEN GO FROM CAR A TO CAR B TO CAR, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AS THEY DO THAT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO WE'RE ENFORCING IT AT PHYSICAL LOCATIONS AND THEN ON THE TRAIN AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, I, I LOVE IT. 
          UH, IS, AND, AND DAVID, I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING TH THIS MESSAGING IS OKAY, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM, IT'S A GOOD THING, ET CETERA. 
          I AGREE. 
          BUT THI THIS COULD BE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD THING TOO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK THERE WILL, WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO TRY IT, WHO OTHERWISE WOULD NEVER EVEN THINK OF GOING TO ONE OF THE STATIONS TO GET ON. 
          AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GET ON A MOCKING BIRD, FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A CONTROL POINT THERE, THEY KNOW THAT ANYBODY FROM DOWNTOWN OR GOING TO DOWNTOWN, IT'S GONE THROUGH THAT. 
          SO I, I THINK THIS IS A MAGNIFICENT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY KIND OF PUMP THIS UP. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          I'VE DONE MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, MS. MILLIGAN. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          HI, CHIEF. 
          NICE TO SEE YOU. 
          YES. 
          UM, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ALSO. 
          UM, HOW ARE WE COMMUNICATING WITH OUR CITY AND POTENTIALLY FEDERAL PARTNERS? AND IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR PRE INVESTIGATORY WORK? SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT OUR STATIONS, UH, BEFORE WE ENGAGE IN THIS, RIGHT? LIKE WHETHER THERE IS DRUG DEALING OR PROSTITUTION OR OTHER, OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE TARGET OF THIS CODE OF CONDUCT, BUT THAT MAY BE HAPPENING ON OUR, OUR PLATFORMS OR AT OUR STATIONS. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, YES. 
          UH, DIRECTOR MILLIGAN, WE HAVE, I'VE ALREADY MET WITH CHIEF CUOMO AND, AND CHIEF GARZA HAS MET WITH, WITH HIS STAFF AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF THIS. 
          'CAUSE MOST OF THIS IS GONNA BE CON IN THE CITY LIMITS OF DALLAS. 
          UH, AND WE ALSO HAVE MET WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REPRESENT THESE AREAS. 
          AND I ALSO MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER OF, OF DALLAS. 
          AND, UH, AND AS, AS THE, THE, UM, CEO'S GONE OUT TO MEET WITH THE OTHER CITIES, HE AND KAY HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS PLAN THAT'S COMING OUT TOO. 
          AND SO, EVERYBODY WHO COULD POTENTIALLY BE, UH, IMPACTED, WE'VE, WE, WE'VE ALREADY MADE CONTACT WITH THEM AND WE'RE GONNA TALK TO THEM ABOUT ANY KIND OF, WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE, THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE THAT IF WE HAVE A DRUG DEALING ISSUE OR YOU KNOW, HUMAN, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE HAVE THE FEDERAL PARTNERS WHO WE COULD, UH, WE UH, CONTACT AND, AND FOLLOW UP IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO, BUT I, I GUESS I'M ASKING IF WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THESE, THESE RESOURCES, CAN WE MAKE AN ASK OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS FOR THAT HAVE UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATORY RESOURCES FOR THEM TO PUT THAT IN TO THESE AREAS PRIOR TO THIS OPERATION SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S, WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, RIGHT? WHICH WE WOULD NEED THE UNDERCOVER WORK TO DO. 
          AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS AFTER WE HAVE THIS NON UNDERCOVER OPERATION, WE, WE, WE HAVE, UH, CHIEF HAS PUT TOGETHER A TEAM THAT'S, THAT'S GETTING, GETTING, BEING TRAINED BY, UH, BY THE CITY OF DALLAS NARCOTICS THROUGH AN ILA. 
          SO THEY CAN DO, WE CAN DO OUR UNDERCOVER LOOK AT THINGS. 
          UH, SO WE CAN, WE CAN MONITOR WHO'S, WHO'S ON THE SYSTEM, WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITIES GOING OUT, SO WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE TO THEM. 
          WE CAN PROVIDE AT LEAST THEM THE INTELLIGENCE. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON A PLAN LIKE THAT, UH, INTERNALLY, SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN BE A BETTER, UH, PARTNER IN THAT, IN THAT RESPECT. 
          AND, AND THE PLAN WOULD BE TO TRY TO HAVE THAT, THOSE FOLKS TRAINED AND TO ROLL THAT OUT AS PART OF THIS OPERATION, OR THAT WOULD BE FUTURE, SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY SEPARATE. 
          THAT'S A LOOK A SEPARATE, SO AS CHIEF MENTIONED, THE CRT, THE CRIME RESPONSE TEAM THAT WE GOT UP, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY, WE'VE STARTED LAST, LAST YEAR, UH, WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF UTILIZING THEM TO DEAL WITH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DRUGS IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WE, WE ARE GETTING THEM TRAINED IN THE DETECTIVE AND INVESTIGATIVE WORK, UH, TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. 
          BUT WE'VE ALSO, WE'VE ALSO TALKED YOU, WHEN WE TALKED TO ALL OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS, UH, ESPECIALLY OUR, OUR JURIS UH, WITHIN THE SYSTEM, UM, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH 'EM TO KIND OF GIVE THEM A GLIMPSE OF THE, HEY, THIS IS, WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THIS. 
          WE NEED YOUR HELP. 
          HOW CAN WE HELP EACH OTHER? DALLAS IS, UH, DALLAS PD, WE WENT TO THEM FOR THE NARCOTICS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BIGGER AND THEY HAVE WAY MORE, UH, VOLUME. 
          AND SO WE GET THE TRAINING A LOT FASTER AND GET THEM READY TO GO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO INCREASED THE SIZE OF OUR CRT. 
          SO THEY, UM, SO THE, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, AND WE JUST ADDED TWO MORE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM UP TO SPEED. 
          AND WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM SOME OF THIS IS MESSAGING TOO, RIGHT? LIKE, WE DON'T WANT, UM, OUR WRITERS WHO ARE NOT BEHAVING ON THE SYSTEM TO JUST SEE THIS AS A ONE TIME THING. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE INVESTED HEAVILY IN CAMERAS, SO HOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE, THE FOLLOW UP OR WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA MESSAGE TO THE ARRESTED INDIVIDUALS OR THE TICKETED 
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INDIVIDUALS THAT THIS ISN'T JUST A ONE-TIME THING, THAT THIS IS A CHANGE IN HOW WE WILL, UM, INTERACT WITH, UM, RIDERS IN THE SYSTEM THAT ARE NOT ABIDING BY OUR CODE OF CONDUCT. 
          SURE. 
          SO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ALL BEING WORKED ON THE CODE OF CONDUCT, UH, IN THE, UM, UH, IN HOW WE MESSAGE. 
          AND THAT'S WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE, UH, AS WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES. 
          BECAUSE IN THIS 90 DAY PROJECT AND AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH EVERYTHING, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND SEEING WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          AND WHEN THE 90 DAY PERIOD IS, IS OVER, WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHAT PARTS OF IT WERE SUCCESSFUL AND WHERE WE CAN ADD VALUE TO OTHER STATIONS. 
          THAT, AND DOING THE SAME THING. 
          DO WE NEED TO ADD MORE, MORE, UH, MORE PLATFORM ON THE PLATFORMS THAN CVD? DO WE NEED TO COVER ST. 
          PAUL AND, UH, UM, AND, UH, THINKING, UM, AK, YEAH. 
          ST. 
          PAUL AND ACKER, DO WE NEED TO PUT THE BARRIERS THERE? DO WE NEED TO PUT 'EM AT THE CONTROL POINTS? WOULD THAT HELP? AND, AND THEN THE PERSONNEL ISSUE, HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GONNA NEED. 
          SO IF WE CAN CONTROL IT, ONCE WE START CONDITIONING THE RIDERSHIP TO THIS PLAN, THEN IT'LL BE A LOT EASIER. 
          SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THE PERSONNEL TO BE OUT THERE. 
          SO IF WE, IF THE BARRIERS ARE ONLY THIS, YOU KNOW, HIP HIGH, LIKE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA TRY TO GO OVER THEM. 
          SO IF WE HAVE PHYSICAL BODIES THERE AND ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES, WHEN DURING FIFA, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN TELL YOU CHIEF, IS THAT THEY ENGAGED MANY, MANY PEOPLE, UH, IN, IN NEARLY GETTING INTO FIGHTS. 
          AND THEY WERE HAVING TO ARREST PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY, BY GOLLY, THEY'RE GONNA GET ON THE TRAIN. 
          THEY DON'T NEED A TICKET. 
          SO THAT, THOSE ARE THERE, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE SOME TRAINING UNDER RIDERSHIP PART. 
          AND THEN JUST LAST QUESTION IS, ARE WE COORDINATING WITH THE DA'S OFFICE TOO, BECAUSE PRESUMABLY THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE ARRESTS DURING THIS, OR DO WE NOT THINK THAT THE ARREST NUMBERS WILL ACTUALLY GO UP? I THINK WE'RE HOPING THE ARREST, I MEAN THE, THE CRIME WILL CONTINUE TO GO DOWN AS, AS IT'S, AS, AS IT'S THERE. 
          'CAUSE ONCE IN THE INITIAL, YOU'RE PREVENTING IT AND THE INITIAL, IT'LL HAPPEN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE GONNA GET, WE'RE GONNA GET SOME, UH, AN ELEVATED SPIKE. 
          BUT I THINK ONCE WE, ONCE WE SMOOTH OUT AND START MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS, I THINK WE'LL SEE THE DECLINE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR. 
          AND I DID JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT CHIEF GUARDS MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, MY HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS CLASS KICKS IN NEWTON'S THIRD LAW OF MOTION. 
          FOR EVERY ACTION, THERE'S EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE MONITORING THIS EVERY WEEK TO SEE WHAT ANTICIPATED OR UNANTICIPATED CHANGES ARE TAKING PLACE THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FLY. 
          WHETHER IT'S CONTACT THE DA OR CONTACT THE CITY. 
          WE'VE ALSO MET WITH OUR PARTNERS AT, AT DDI, THE STAKEHOLDERS DOWNTOWN, TO GIVE THEM A HEADS UP OF WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS COMING. 
          'CAUSE IT COULD LOOK LIKE WE'RE JUST DUMPING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. 
          THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          WE WANNA PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING ON THE TRAIN AND GIVING THEM ACCESS TO MOVE ALL ABOUT THE SYSTEM. 
          THAT, THAT'S THE, THE NARRATIVE THAT I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER IS WE TRANSPORT PEOPLE FROM THE CORE OUT TO EVERYWHERE ELSE. 
          SO IF WE, IF WE CONTROL THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, THEN WE AFFECT THE WHOLE FIELD. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S THE GOAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. GRADY, THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, I'M, AGAIN, I'M JUST NEW GUY ON THE BLOCK. 
          I'M, I'M FEELING MY WAY THROUGH HERE, BUT, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION. 
          I THINK THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIC PROGRAM. 
          FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN READING ON IT, THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE AND, UM, AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, I SAW THIS IN IN PLANO AS WELL. 
          UM, THE MORE UNIFORMS WE HAD OUT IN A LOCATION, THE LESS CRIME WE HAD. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THIS IS TERRIFIC THAT THE MORE THAT WE, THE MORE VISIBILITY THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR OFFICERS, UM, OUT IN THE, IN THE TRAINS AND IN THOSE LOCATIONS, CRIME HAS A TENDENCY TO MOVE AWAY. 
          THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THOSE AREAS AND BE SEEN. 
          UM, THE QUESTION, AND, AND THIS COMES FROM THE CITY OF PLANO, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LICENSED PROFESSIONAL POLICE OFFICERS. 
          AND THEN IN PLANO WE HAVE, UH, INDIVIDUALS WE CALL PSOS PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICERS OR BLUE SHIRTS. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE, UH, NOT LICENSED, UH, IN THE SAME MANNER. 
          AND THEY DON'T CARRY SIDEARMS. UM, ARE THE FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICERS SIMILAR TO PSOS? OR ARE THEY LICENSED PROFESSIONAL POLICE OFFICERS? SO OUR FAIR ENFORCEMENT, THEY CARRY EVERYTHING BUT A WEAPON. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, BUT OUR TSOS ARE LEVEL THREE SECURITY. 
          AND THEY CARRY, THEY CARRY, THEY CARRY, UM, THEY CARRY A GUN, THEY CARRY, THEY DO EVERYTHING. 
          SO WE USUALLY PAIR THEM UP TOGETHER, FPOS AND TSOS. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAW THAT LINE GOING THERE, SO THE, THE FPOS AND TSOS, THEY BOTH ENGAGE, BUT THERE, THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE. 
          IF WE HAVE TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION, THE TSOS CAN HOLD UNTIL WE GET AN OFFICER TO THAT LOCATION, OR THE OFFICER MAY BE THERE. 
          SOMETIMES WE PAIR A TSO, A TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICER, LIKE, KIND OF LIKE THE PSO, THE PUBLIC SECURITY OFFICER. 
          IT'S A, UH, AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, A POLICE OFFICER WITH AN FEO, FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, F E'S CARRY, THEY WEAR THE GRAY UNIFORM AND THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT. 
          THEY HAVE A BODY CAMERA AND EVERYTHING, BUT, BUT THEY JUST ENFORCE THERE. 
          SO, 
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AND WE ALSO THOUGHT, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, AMBASSADORS AND, UH, AND UTILIZING THEM, WE'VE SEEN THEM THAT, UH, WE HAD AMBASSADORS DURING FIFA AND KIND OF DOING THE WAY FINDING, DIRECTING AND COMING PEOPLE DOWN, GETTING TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER LAYER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED, UM, IN, IN, IN PLANO WAS BAD GUYS HAVE A TENDENCY TO, TO PICK UP RIFLES INSTEAD OF PISTOLS. 
          UM, HOW ARE WE PROTECTING OUR OFFICERS? UH, WELL, WELL WE'RE PROTECTING OUR OFFICERS THROUGH TRAINING, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF EQUIPMENT, BALLISTIC SHIELDS THAT THEY WEAR. 
          THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEAR THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE CHANGE OVER TIME. 
          HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY'VE GONE TO AN OUTER VEST THAT'S HAD CAPABLE OF CARRYING MORE WEIGHT, SO MORE WEIGHTED SHIELDS, UH, FOR THEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRAINS ARE GONNA HAVE MORE OP, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON THE TRAINS AND AT THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          SO THERE'LL BE MORE OF THEM TO KEEP THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, TO HELP MITIGATE THAT, THOSE PROBLEMATIC ISSUES WITH PEOPLE CARRYING RIFLES AND WHATNOT. 
          HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ON THE TRAY BECAUSE WE'VE ADDRESSED THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S IT. 
          AND TO THAT, TO THAT POINT, UH, DIRECTOR GRADY, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE PROCURE, WE HAVE PURCHASED, UH, RIFLE PLATES FOR ALL THE OFFICERS AND THEY'RE COMING IN NOW IN BATCHES AND OFFICERS ARE GETTING FITTED. 
          AND IT'S CHIEF REGARDS I MENTIONED. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A PLATE THAT THEY CAN WEAR CONSTANTLY INSIDE THE OLD CENTER. 
          YOU HAD TO HAVE THIS BIG THING YOU LUGGED AROUND, YOU PUT IT OVER YOUR OUTSIDE VEST. 
          THIS WILL BE WEARING WITH 'EM EVERY DAY. 
          SO THEY'LL HAVE THE RIFLE PLATE WITH THEM. 
          SO EVERY DAY, SO, PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, RIGHT. 
          I HAVE MS. GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS JUST ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. 
          I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THE PLAN. 
          UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH SOME EXECUTIVE TEAM TO TAKE THIS, UH, TRAIN STATION TO, I MEAN THE TRAINS TO, UM, IRVING FOR THE TRANSPORTATION SUMMIT. 
          AND, UM, THERE ARE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE A MAJOR CONCERN. 
          AND I KNOW THAT BACHMAN WAS ONE THAT KAY HAD MENTIONED TO ME WHILE WE WERE ON THE TRAIN. 
          UM, CURIOUS. 
          I LOVE THE PLAN. 
          I LOVE THAT. 
          I WAS CURIOUS AS TO HOW YOU SELECTED THOSE PARTICULAR, UM, STATIONS. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU INDICATED SEVERAL THAT WERE, BUT I WAS WONDERING SPECIFICALLY WHY CITY PLACE WAS NOT ONE THAT YOU WOULD'VE ADDED TO THAT. 
          AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT, UM, AND THE SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE TIMING OF IT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SHARED WITH US THE TIMES THAT YOU WERE GONNA GO OUT AND, AND, UH, AND YOU'VE DESIGNATED THOSE TIMES. 
          WAS THERE A REASON FOR THOSE SPECIFIC TIMES? UM, SURE. 
          SO GOING TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, UH, ADDRESSING, UH, HOW WE LOOKED AT THOSE LOCATIONS, THOSE ARE OUR FOUR OF THE, FOUR OF THE FIVE LOCATIONS ARE, ARE, ARE OUR TOP FIVE, UH, INCIDENT LOCATIONS. 
          IT'S ALL, AND IT'S WHERE WE SEE MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH, UH, MAYBE THE UNHOUSED OR THE MENTALLY ILL OR PEOPLE THAT ARE AGGRESSIVELY GETTING ON TO THOSE, UH, TO THE TRAINS AT THOSE POINTS. 
          SO FOR WHITE ROCK WAS THE ONLY ONE WE SELECTED WHITE ROCK, BECAUSE IT GOES, IT'S THE LAST POINT. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES THERE IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S A BIG STATION PLATFORM AND WE CAN, UH, IT'S GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO, UH, WHAT'S THAT ROULETTE IN THAT, THAT YEAH, GARLAND, YEAH. 
          GARLAND AREA. 
          SO, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE OUTLIER. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT TO CITY PLACE OR EVEN, OR EVEN MOCKINGBIRD STATION. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE, WE, THAT'S AN ADJUSTMENT WE CAN MAKE ALONG THE WAY. 
          THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE, THE ONLY OUTLIER WE SAW THAT MAY WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE AROUND IF WE THAT. 
          BUT THE OTHER FOUR LOCATIONS, BACHMAN EIGHT AND CORINTH, UH, UH, MLK, UH, AND THE WEST END, UH, WELL, MLK WEST END AND, UH, I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER ONE IS. 
          UM, FOREST LANE. 
          YES. 
          FOREST LANE HAS THREE HOMELESS CAMPS OUT THERE. 
          AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM FOR US AND, AND, AND US IN DALLAS CONSTANTLY, DALLAS PD HAVING TO, UH, CONSTANTLY ADDRESS, ADDRESS THAT LOCATION. 
          SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SO LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE, UH, SEE, WELL, HOW DOES IT WORK IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND CAN WE TAKE THAT PLAN, UH, AND GET THE RESOURCES OUT TO THOSE LOCATIONS? AND THE, AND THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, I FORGET ABOUT THE TIMES, THE SPECIFIC TIMES, TIMES WE, SO BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF, OF MANPOWER IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA TAKE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN PEOPLE ON AN OVERTIME BASIS TO COVER SOME OF THESE SHIFTS, UM, IS WE GOTTA KEEP IT, WE GOTTA CONTROL IT. 
          SO WE SAID, WELL, IN THE TESTING PERIOD, IN THIS DEMONSTRATION, WE WANTED TO CONTROL LIKE HOW MANY HOURS. 
          SO WE PICKED THE PEAK HOURS, THE, THE, THE AM YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING INTO WORK, YOU KNOW, COMING IN INTO DOWNTOWN CBD, THEN WE PICK THE, THE PM THEN LEAVING, AND THEN I GOTTA RELEASE 'EM AT SOME POINT SO WE CAN COVER EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THERE MAY BE CALLS GOING ON ALL OTHER PARTS, CARROLLTON, UH, PLANO, IRVING, RICHARDSON. 
          SO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO RELEASE AND THEN GEAR UP FOR THE NEXT POINT AND TAKE IT OVER. 
          BUT IT MAY BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE LOOK TO SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE'LL JUST KEEP THE, THE BARRIER SYSTEM GOING, 
          [04:55:01]
UH, WHILE WHEN, WHEN WE RELEASE AND JUST HOLD PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE ON DUTY UNTIL THE NEW CREW COMES IN AND TAKES IT OVER. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DURING THIS PERIOD BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT TO, UH, TO EFFECTIVENESS. 
          GREAT. 
          GREAT START. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MS. JUAN KRAUS, THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          SOME OF YOUR RESPONSES TO DIRECTOR GARCIA'S, UM, QUESTION KIND OF OVERLAPPED WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS SEEKING. 
          SO ONE IS THE, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THE ESTIMATE OF THAT, UH, FOR THE, THE PILOT PERIOD. 
          AND NUMBER TWO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO OFFLINE BECAUSE, OR CLOSE SESSION, UM, BUT SEPARATE TO ME ON, I DON'T WANNA CLOSE SESSION, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN GO OFFLINE WITH ME REGARDING HOW THAT'S GONNA IMPACT THE COVERAGE, UM, IN THE REST OF OUR SYSTEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WITH PULLING SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, IS IT PURELY OVER TIME, UM, UH, AND NOT AFFECTING IT OR, UH, AND HOW MUCH IS ROUGHLY IS THE ESTIMATE JUST ON THAT? PART OF THAT IS, IS WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW, HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE OUTSIDE. 
          UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE, WE HAVE A NUMBER IN OUR MIND AS FAR AS HOW MANY WE NOT NUMBER. 
          WE'VE WORKED OUT THE NUMBERS TOO, TO SAY WE'RE GONNA NEED THIS MANY X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED BEFORE IS HOW MANY PERSONNEL, BECAUSE PERSONNEL, RESOURCES, UH, PEOPLE WOULD BE OFF IT'S FINITE TRAINING, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT TRANSPIRE OVER THE YEAR STATE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE CAN RUN INTO STATE FAIR, WE HAVE TO USE THE STATE ST. 
          PATRICK'S DAY PARADE WHERE WE USE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS, UM, TO COVER THOSE THINGS. 
          SO, UH, BUT THAT'S ON THE WEEKEND. 
          MOST OF THIS STUFF'S GONNA HAPPEN DURING THE WEEK, SO, SO IT'S GONNA BE ADJUSTABLE, AND SO WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE AND, AND MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS THROUGH OUR, AND THEN MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AS WE GO ALONG TO SEE IF WE NEED TO EITHER, EITHER EXPAND OR CONTRACT AND SO TO SPEAK. 
          AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE ESTIMATED COST QUESTION, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WE UTILIZE, UH, TO MAKE THAT IT COULD BE, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE OVERTIME, IF, IF THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAVING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 14 PEOPLE, UH, TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A COMBINATION OF FPOS AND POLICE OFFICERS AND SURE. 
          UH, AND SO THAT CAN BE, IT CAN BE JUST A, IS IT YOU HAVE A RANGE? I'M NOT, IT CAN GET, IT CAN GET UP TO ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN A, IN A, IN A THREE MONTH PERIOD. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S A GUESSTIMATE. 
          NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I'M JUST KIND OF GETTING AN IDEA WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING 50,000 OR WE'RE TALKING YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE WAY LESS THAN THAT. 
          IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AND SO, OKAY. 
          BUT IDEALLY, ONCE WE GET THE CONDITIONING TO, TO WORK AND THEN WE GET MORE OF THE PLATFORMS COVERED, WE CAN USE LESS PEOPLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S HOPEFULLY WHAT WANTED, SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE, IDEALLY WE WANT TO USE, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO USE OVERTIME. 
          SO IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME TO GET THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UNDER 5 5, 1 0.071, WE'RE GONNA GO IN A CLOSED SESSION. 
          NO . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          . 
          YEAH, THAT WAS A JOKE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, UH, YOU CAN PUT ME ON, I'LL HAVE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS. 
          I ACTUALLY HAD QUITE A BIT WRITTEN UP FOR THIS, BUT, UH, NUMBER ONE, THE TIME IS, IS GETTING LATE AND JUST WANT TO GET A COUPLE THINGS ON THE RECORD THOUGH, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE. 
          I, I, AND I DON'T THINK I'VE CAUGHT THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S PEAK DURING WEEKDAY ONLY. 
          WE'RE NOT DOING THIS ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, IS THAT CORRECT? NOT, NOT IN THE BEGINNING, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IF WE NEED TO ADJUST, WE WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE CHIEF ALREADY, UM, MADE MENTION OF THIS, BUT THIS HAS BEEN, UM, SHOWN IN SOME VARIATION OR SOME FORM, UM, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE CHIEF. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO MET WITH THE WESTERN ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC. 
          UM, AS WELL AS WE'VE BRIEFED, UM, UM, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY REPRESENT DOWNTOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, MORENO AND RIDLEY. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS NOT THE, KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER. 
          THIS IS NOT A, A DART ONLY PROBLEM. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT A CITY ONLY PROBLEM. 
          UM, TRUTH BE TOLD, I, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS MYSELF AS A BOARD MEMBER AND, AND A RESIDENT OF DALLAS AND DOWNTOWN DALLAS, UM, THAT LIVES ADJACENT TO THE DART LINE, UM, I'M, I'M REALLY AT, AT MY END, UM, UH, OF PASSING THE BLAME AND POINTING FINGERS. 
          UM, ULTIMATELY AS I STATED EARLIER, WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY AND I SUPPORT IT AND, AND, AND LOOK TO ADVANCE IT BEYOND. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON SAFETY AND SECURITY THAN A PEER AGENCY OF OURS. 
          UM, AND IT'S NO DISRESPECT TO THEM, BUT THAT'S JUST THE ECONOMIC SURROUNDING THE UNFORTUNATE PLACE WE FIND OURSELVES IN RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, TO, TO, TO THE POINT THOUGH OF REALLY NEXT STEPS 
          [05:00:01]
AND, UM, PART TWO OF THIS BRIEFING, AND LEMME FIRST THANK DAVID AND AND CHIEF FOR BRINGING THIS. 
          AS YOU ALL RECALL, BACK IN OCTOBER WHEN I BECAME CHAIR, UH, SAFETY AND SECURITY WAS NUMBER TWO AFTER, UM, GOVERNANCE AND FUNDING. 
          UM, I WAS HOPING WE COULD WORK ON ALL THE THINGS TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UH, BUT GOVERNANCE AND FUNDING TOOK A VERY STRONG PRIORITY FOR THE FIRST EIGHT MONTHS OR SO OF, OF MY TENURE AS BOARD CHAIR. 
          UM, AND WE COULD NOT WORK ON ALL THESE THINGS IN PARALLEL. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO GET, UM, SOME SOLUTIONS TO THESE ISSUES. 
          THIS IS JUST LIKE THE MDRT TEAM, JUST LIKE UPGRADING THE CAMERAS, JUST LIKE POSSIBLE GATING. 
          THIS IS ONE RUNG IN THE LADDER OF WHAT HOPEFULLY IS A GREATER DEPLOYMENT AND A GREATER STRATEGY, UM, TO ENHANCE OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY AND MAKE RIDER FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND ULTIMATELY INCREASE THE RIDERSHIP. 
          UM, SO HATS OFF TO YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS. 
          I HOPE IT'S A SUCCESS. 
          I HOPE IT'S NOT ONLY A 90 DAY PERIOD, I WILL SAY, UM, ON WHEN YOU REPORT BACK THE DATA, UM, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY, I JUST HEARD IDENTIFY THE FOUR OF THE LOCATIONS AS KIND OF THE HIGH PRIORITY INCIDENTS, UH, AREAS. 
          IF YOU COULD GIVE US SPECIFIC LOCATIONS, SPECIFIC PLATFORMS OVER THIS 90 DAY PERIOD, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE RELATED TO THE CRIMINAL OFFENSES AND THE INCIDENT REPORTS SPECIFIC TO THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU KEEP TRACK ANYWAY, BUT WHEN YOU BRING THAT REPORT BACK, GIVE US THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS, UM, AND WHAT THE CRIME NUMBERS WERE PREVIOUSLY. 
          YOU CAN DO IT OVER A QUARTER OR A YEAR OR HOWEVER, OR I GUESS OVER A QUARTER WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THAT, UH, BROKEN OUT THAT WAY. 
          BUT THANK YOU TO ALL THANK, THANK YOU TO YOU ALL. 
          UH, OF COURSE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UH, NEXT, NEXT PHASE OF BRIEFING. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY, LEMME MAKE SURE THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THIS. 
          THERE ARE SOME CODE OF CONDUCT AND WRITER POLICIES AND PARTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, UM, AND THAT WE HAVE TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT ON OUR END. 
          UM, AND, AND EVEN THE FUNDING OF THESE, UH, PROGRAMS FOR OUR LONGER TERM BASIS, UM, WHICH MAY TAKE AWAY SOMETHING , LEMME JUST USE IT THAT WAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, BUT THE BOARD HAS TO TAKE ON OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT AS WELL. 
          THIS IS NOT JUST, UH, ON EXERCISES OR OPERATION ACTS. 
          WHAT WAS IT? ACCESS. 
          ACCESS, OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON THAT, IT'S ON US TOO. 
          SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? SEE YOU NONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT IS NOW 7:11 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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